Dr. Ellington Darden on Arthur Jones, Casey Viator

[The Weight Trained Male]

Ellington Darden: The right training partner or supervisor can make a noticeable difference in overall results. Casey Viator’s training history at Nautilus provides an interesting example.

In my new HIT book, I note that Arthur Jones personally trained Casey Viator for 10 months prior to the 1971 Mr. America contest. Actually, the personal-training part was much less than that. Let me explain.

Jones was briefly introduced to Viator at the 1970 Mr. America contest in Los Angeles, where Casey placed third. Jones had driven from his home in Lake Helen, Florida, to Los Angeles and on the way back he stopped by Red Lerille’s gym in Lafayette, Louisiana, and reassembled some of his initial Nautilus machines that he had displayed in California a week earlier. Viator lived nearby so Lerille invited him over to talk with Jones and go though a workout.

And what a training session it was. “Arthur almost killed me,” Viator remembered. “I had a tremendous pump throughout my upper body. I could feel myself actually growing during and after the workout.”

Viator had never experienced a workout like Jones put him through and Jones had never exercised anyone with Viator’s genetic potential. As a result, Jones offered Viator a job with his new company, Nautilus, and assured Viator’s parents that he’d finish his senior year in high school in Florida. Besides training Viator over the next year, Jones would make sure he entered all the national bodybuilding contests. Everyone involved agreed that this was a doable arrangement.

Thus, Viator moved from Louisiana to Florida during the latter part of June 1970. His first scheduled contests under Jones’s guidance were Teenage Mr. America, during the last week of July, followed a month later by Mr. USA.

Jones began immediately training Viator on a three-times-per-week schedule, and true to his expectations, Viator started growing. From an initial body weight of 198 pounds, three weeks later Viator weighed 205 poundsand he easily won the Teenage Mr. America. In New Orleans, a month later at the Mr. USA, Viator weighed 210 pounds and was more cut than he was when he was 5 pounds lighter. Again, he was judged an easy winner.

When Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbu visited the Nautilus headquarters in mid-November 1970, Viator weighed 215 pounds and impressed both of the professional champions. Jones predicted that Casey would be more massive, with even more definition, by the 1971 Mr. America contest, which was 6 months away.

In early 1971, because of business and travel commitments, Jones stopped personally training Viator. Viator trained himself and slowly lost muscle and gained fat. In mid-February 1971, Jones noted that Casey was down to 205 pounds and was smoother than he’s been since he moved to Florida. At about the same time, he hired Kim Wood to take charge of the Quonset Hut workout room at DeLand High School, where all the training occurred. Wood supervised Viator for six weeks and reported back to Jones that he had trouble getting Viator to give him his best effort.

Finally, it was the middle of April, a month before the Jr. Mr. America, and Jones realized that if he doesn’t return to training Casey, Casey might get beat at the national event. So, Jones refocused on his personal training, cracked the whip as only he could, and Casey responded. In two weeks, Casey’s body weight was up to 210 pounds. At the contest, he weighed 215 and blew away the competition.

[IroNat]

Wow, what an amazing true life account.

[Henda]

That was enthralling

[Rmj11]

All bs.

[beakdoctor]

I had one of Dardens books. I think it was called New High Intensity Training.  It was pretty poorly written. I was expecting Dr. Darden to produce factual data, peer reviewed studies, something along those lines. But it was a lot of fantasy. Almost hero -like worship of Jones. A rather naive account of the Colorado experiment,  an offering of every excuse in the book as to why the results of the colorado experiment couldn't be replicated.

 Even some absurd analogy regarding a gorilla Jones owned and comparing the activity level and diet of the gorilla to HIT trained athletes as proof of HITs effectiveness.

Plus the cheap shots against Arnold. He actually asserted that Arnold didn't know how to say his own name until Art Jones told him how to pronounce it. All in all it was a blatantly biased and poorly written book. A waste of money

[BBSSchlemiel]

Darden has a new book on longevity training in which he prescribed two fifteen-minute training sessions per week.

[oldtimer1]

Darden has a new book on longevity training in which he prescribed two fifteen-minute training sessions per week.

I will hold out for the book coming in ten years describing the ten minute once a week longevity book.

[IroNat]

The older you get the less you should workout.

Once you die you shouldn't workout at all.

[Rmj11]

Darden has a new book on longevity training in which he prescribed two fifteen-minute training sessions per week.

More marketing to the lazy.

[The Weight Trained Male]

Wow, what an amazing true life account.

How did your other accounts "Gym Rat", Body-buildah", and "Kwon" feel about it?

[The Weight Trained Male]

The older you get the less you should workout.

Once you die you shouldn't workout at all.

You don't work out at all.

[dj181]

You don't work out at all.

your thoughts

[beakdoctor]

How did your other accounts "Gym Rat", Body-buildah", and "Kwon" feel about it?

Quite a bit different than your other accounts Royalty,  pompeii, dipshit and dumbass feel about it.

[The Weight Trained Male]

Quite a bit different than your other accounts Royalty,  pompeii, dipshit and dumbass feel about it.

Wow you're fooling everyone by using the "beakdoctor" account.

[beakdoctor]

I will hold out for the book coming in ten years describing the ten minute once a week longevity book.

You walk into a video store and you see "10 minute longevity" and there's "9 minute longevity" sitting right next to it, which one would you go for?

[Rmj11]

your thoughts

Skinny McGuff dude has been training with hit for years but has made no gains at all.  Same with Lyle Mcdonald. Hit is a gimmick sold to the lazy. Nothing more.

[dj181]

Skinny McGuff dude has been training with hit for years but has made no gains at all.  Same with Lyle Mcdonald. Hit is a gimmick sold to the lazy. Nothing more.

honestly have to agree with you there

[The Weight Trained Male]

Skinny McGuff dude has been training with hit for years but has made no gains at all.  Same with Lyle Mcdonald. Hit is a gimmick sold to the lazy. Nothing more.

This thread is about Doctor Ellington Darden and Casey Viator. Introducing an unrelated individual into the conversation is illogical.

[BBSSchlemiel]

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[BBSSchlemiel]

Skinny McGuff dude has been training with hit for years but has made no gains at all.  Same with Lyle Mcdonald. Hit is a gimmick sold to the lazy. Nothing more.

Lyle McDonald

[IroNat]

How did your other accounts "Gym Rat", Body-buildah", and "Kwon" feel about it?

Don't forget about my other gimmicks Wes, MattC, TheScott, Taffin, robc, tatoo, and Ron.
There are others too.  Many others.

[IroNat]

Lyle McDonald

Good Lord, and he claims to be a training guru.

[The Weight Trained Male]

Don't forget about my other gimmicks Wes, MattC, TheScott, Taffin, robc, tatoo, and Ron.
There are others too.  Many others.

That tactic is clearly not working. Your phony screen name accounts are easily identifiable.

[The Scott]

That tactic is clearly not working. Your phony screen name accounts are easily identifiable.

It is obvious that you know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

[beakdoctor]

Don't forget about my other gimmicks Wes, MattC, TheScott, Taffin, robc, tatoo, and Ron.
There are others too.  Many others.

There's only 2 posters on this entire sight and the rest are gimmicks belonging to one or the other.