Mohamed Makkawy contest diet

[Flexacon]

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[The Keto Kid]

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[joswift]

Yes, Vince Gironda (his coach) was a big believer in desiccated liver tablets.
Seemed to work quite well for Serge Nubret. The guy went his whole career ripped and muscular, most importantly never injured.

Imagine believing the supplement companies bullshit about only being able to absorb 25gms protein per meal

Serge ate once a day, about 4lb meat

If you believe the bullshit you have to accept Serge built his physique on 25gms protein.

[dj181]

Imagine believing the supplement companies bullshit about only being able to absorb 25gms protein per meal

Serge ate once a day, about 4lb meat

If you believe the bullshit you have to accept Serge built his physique on 25gms protein.

was it pre or post wo?

[joswift]

was it pre or post wo?

not sure if thats a joke...

[The Keto Kid]

Imagine believing the supplement companies bullshit about only being able to absorb 25gms protein per meal

Serge ate once a day, about 4lb meat

If you believe the bullshit you have to accept Serge built his physique on 25gms protein.

Exactly, he would usually eat horse meat, later in his life I believe he switched over to beef.All the bullshit they spouted over the years and to this day is disgusting, we were all gullible and fell for it, its not like we could just go on Pubmed and search through studies, so we believed this shit. Lots of people especially in the carnivore world eat one meal a day like Dr. Shawn Baker., he seems to be assimilating his protein just fine.These days pre-workouts going $50 makes me laugh, and sadly people are still shelling out their hard earned money on it.

[dj181]

not sure if thats a joke...

nope

if i train without eating before my wo is shit sucksass

i think you should eat 2 meals minimum

but 4 is max

this 6 is horseshit

[Van_Bilderass]

Exactly, he would usually eat horse meat, later in his life I believe he switched over to beef.All the bullshit they spouted over the years and to this day is disgusting, we were all gullible and fell for it, its not like we could just go on Pubmed and search through studies, so we believed this shit. Lots of people especially in the carnivore world eat one meal a day like Dr. Shawn Baker., he seems to be assimilating his protein just fine.These days pre-workouts going $50 makes me laugh, and sadly people are still shelling out their hard earned money on it.

I don't see how the earlier recommendations were malicious. If they said you can absorb more protein then protein sales would go up, right? They just didn't know is my guess. They thought eggs would cause cholesterol issues, and why not, eggs contain cholesterol so it made sense. It wasn't until more studies that they changed the guidelines. So it's not malice or ulterior motives every time, stuff is bound to evolve. Though I am aware of different industries funding studies which they think will get them more money. But it's not necessarily rigged every time imo because research can be done in different countries all of which have different agendas.

[joswift]

I don't see how the earlier recommendations were malicious. If they said you can absorb more protein then protein sales would go up, right? They just didn't know is my guess. They thought eggs would cause cholesterol issues, and why not, eggs contain cholesterol so it made sense. It wasn't until more studies that they changed the guidelines. So it's not malice or ulterior motives every time, stuff is bound to evolve. Though I am aware of different industries funding studies which they think will get them more money. But it's not necessarily rigged every time imo because research can be done in different countries all of which have different agendas.

If you can only absorb 25gms per meal then to get 200gms thats 8 meals a day

Thts not realistic, but 3 shakes a day between 5 meals is achievable

And the gram per lb was made up by people selling the fart powder as well

[Van_Bilderass]

If you can only absorb 25gms per meal then to get 200gms thats 8 meals a day

Thts not realistic, but 3 shakes a day between 5 meals is achievable

And the gram per lb was made up by people selling the fart powder as well

The bodybuilders themselves took the protein targets way beyond what the supp companies recommended. I think Gironda's weight loss diet was 36 eggs, 2lbs of meat and handfulls of liver tablets. The eggs were supposed to be blended with heavy cream. Nowadays the heavyweight bodybuilders most eat 400+ grams of protein, some even double that. I think if bodybuilders of a certain weight all eat
a certain average amount it's most likely close to the "correct" amount, or optimal amount. Things tend to evolve like that even without any science. The RDA says my protein for just baseline bodily functions is 80 grams a day and even just instinctively it stands to reason more is probably better for growing. I know lots of regular folks don't even hit that physiologically minimal amount. But the docs and experts still say you don't need a special diet to build muscle, even with plenty of research saying otherwise.

Though Mentzer said all you need is your baseline diet and a bite out of an apple to cover the growing demands with more energy LOL.

[MAXX]

carbs are pro sparing

you loss your muscle mass on a low carb diet

you can eat pure table sugar and be ripped

was eating 80-90% carbs on his fat loss diet

platz was eating 400 grams of carbs a day and was a ripped dry 2%

jesus!!! that guy @ 3:30 is fugly

Tom appeared more ripped in 1981 from Mikes advice with seran wrap skin look because of fullness. Carbs fills out physiques. Carbs retains water in the muscles.

[BigRo]

Effort/reward ratio makes cardio for weight loss pretty pointless
An out in a staionary bike is around 250 cals , its a fuckin KitKat

You may as well watch a movie and not eat a Kit Kat

For health purposes (cardio vascular) its fine, fat loss pointless

Not at all my experience. Its not about how many cals are burnt during cardio its the metabolic boost and overall thermic effect.

[BigRo]

I'm not anti carb, I'm definitely anti plants for human consumption, haven't eaten a single plant in 2 years, look into anti nutrients, specifically phytates and oxalates, they bind to you and actually impede the absorption of vitamins and minerals, not to mention the soil is significantly depleted, and lastly the crops are sprayed with pesticides specifically glyphosade.

The body can break all that down. I grew up with organic gardening produce and credit it to my robust system.

[tom joad]

the first protein powder that I ever bought was from Mohamed Makkawy himself from a little shop he had in the late 80s.

[beakdoctor]

I think, like most things, keto/carnivore is highly individual. When I first used keto/low carb. I felt like shit and looked skinny fat. I think it was because I had to sort of reprogram myself to get over the fear of eating high fat.

Once I got the ratios right, which for me is similar carbs to protein in grams but obviously about double fat in terms of calories to protein, I was able to get lean and retain muscle.

Im just now learning how to use sodium which I also always thought was a no no.

Whenever I tried high carbs/low fat, it works great for about a month or so....then I start to look like shit after that. Some people just cannot tolerate low carb though. It can be difficult if you're not ready for the initial depletion.

[dj181]

The bodybuilders themselves took the protein targets way beyond what the supp companies recommended. I think Gironda's weight loss diet was 36 eggs, 2lbs of meat and handfulls of liver tablets. The eggs were supposed to be blended with heavy cream. Nowadays the heavyweight bodybuilders most eat 400+ grams of protein, some even double that. I think if bodybuilders of a certain weight all eat
a certain average amount it's most likely close to the "correct" amount, or optimal amount. Things tend to evolve like that even without any science. The RDA says my protein for just baseline bodily functions is 80 grams a day and even just instinctively it stands to reason more is probably better for growing. I know lots of regular folks don't even hit that physiologically minimal amount. But the docs and experts still say you don't need a special diet to build muscle, even with plenty of research saying otherwise.

Though Mentzer said all you need is your baseline diet and a bite out of an apple to cover the growing demands with more energy LOL.

you know of the 25, 50, 125, 300, 600 mgs test study right? well every particpant eat 1.3 grams of pro per kilo and,,,, 125 gained some muscle, 300 gained more and 600 gained even more

so.... if that's too low why did the 600 group gain so much muslce like 18 pounds worth

again, THEY ALL ATE 1.3 GRAMNS

[dj181]

Tom appeared more ripped in 1981 from Mikes advice with seran wrap skin look because of fullness. Carbs fills out physiques. Carbs retains water in the muscles.

yep yep

cals and carbs are very very very low right now as i head towards 5% bf

once i hit my goal of sub-5 i will put the carbs back in and... i'm guessing i will add 3-5 pounds back all water/muscle

[dj181]

big paul steps in @ 11:50

[Humble Narcissist]

the first protein powder that I ever bought was from Mohamed Makkawy himself from a little shop he had in the late 80s.

Did he throw some roids in with the purchase?

[falco]

What's Bhankys trt? Go 4 it? I'm twice the size of him, guy was like 160lbs. My trt is 200 test, 1mg arimidex, and gonadorelin 25 units twice a week.

I apologize my ignorance, is Gonadorelin the same as Pregnyl? And if so, why do you take it? To mantain some reproductive function?

[bigbychoices]

                               Carbs are NOT needed. PERIOD.  Show me where the fda or any thing says how many carbs a day a person needs?  I will wait. . . . . They tell you how much vitamins fat protein and even water!  But do they list carbs?  NO! Now real quick before the know it all carb lovers say "well it depends on how active you are".  SMH.  ALL nutrients depend on how active you are!! Carbs are a secondary energy source.  We can eat them in between hunting for real food if we need to.  All carnivores or like that. They prefer meat and fat but can eat carbs when needed.
                               Do we need all this protein guys say they are taking in? NO. It is over kill and their kidneys show it. But we think "more is better and even more is better yet".  Same with steroids booze sex etc. ( well more sex is a good thing lol)  Use fat with protein or use carbs with protein ( both ways has a protein sparing effect) but not all 3 together or you will in fact get fat if your intake of calories is higher than your output and by taking all 3 together it can happen super easy.
                               Yes you can get lean eating carbs and you can get lean when eating fat. The human body likes to be on a fat and protein diet. It improves EVERYTHING. Most people will use every bullshit excuse in the world to keep eating carbs ( its easier for them) because they like carbs!! ( we all do)  That is why the contest dieting back in the day used to "make a champion or not"  It was hard. But it works and works well. Train on an empty stomach is always better ( regardless of what you read or feel personally) Just like doing real keto it takes the body time to adjust because it wants the food the carbs the sugars etc and tries to convince you to give in. But once you overcome it all you will be much happier and your workouts and diets will be more productive
                                 I am not trying to convince anyone of anything I am just voicing truths. Whatever works for you is fine. The mind is powerful. But you have to be willing to try and give it your all . Carbs and fat diets are like fords vs chevys.  Chevy lovers will drive a ford to death beat the hell out of it no oil change no tune up etc and then when something happens they say "see fords are shit" ( and ford people do the same to chevys)  But if you took care of it treated it good like you would your chosen type of car then see what happens. Give it the best chance. Then if you dont like it ok . SAME with carbs vs fats .

[dj181]

any low cal diet is hard and painful

i'm in the midst of this fucking shit right now

mario depausqule had the wwe bb guys in keto in the 90s and they loooked like shit

[The Keto Kid]

I apologize my ignorance, is Gonadorelin the same as Pregnyl? And if so, why do you take it? To mantain some reproductive function?

It's similar to hcg, my doctor requires all his patients take it with their trt protocol, so basically I think it keeps your balls working.

[IroNat]

any low cal diet is hard and painful

i'm in the midst of this fucking shit right now

mario depausqule had the wwe bb guys in keto in the 90s and they loooked like shit

Post pics.

[The Keto Kid]

any low cal diet is hard and painful

i'm in the midst of this fucking shit right now

mario depausqule had the wwe bb guys in keto in the 90s and they loooked like shit

They looked like shit because they had to get off the juice, meanwhile Strydom was fully loaded.
Palumbo, Chad Nichols, Skip Hill all took a page from DiPasquale, they deplete their guys then refeed them, it's super compensation, very low or zero carb 5 days a week,  high carb on weekends, keeps you insulin sensitivity high