5 year NATURAL transformation?

[dj181]

Solution:  Shave your head

hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a

pot heads do the best on contest prep corrding to Big Paul

contest prep will be a fucking breeze for me as i have ripped genetic IN FUCKING  SPADES

[BigRo]

Solution:  Shave your head

Elucidate your advices? Maybe it would unleash the inner psycho.

[IroNat]

Elucidate your advices? Maybe it would unleash the inner psycho.

For most of life's problems, shaving your head is the solution.
 

[dj181]

For most of life's problems, shaving your head is the solution.
 

bahahahahahahaha

[GymnJuice]

There is no Bhanky without steroids.

It's true. He healed himself from bone on bone knees through his own research into bioidentical peptides. Without his research he'd have never walked!

[wes]

It's true. He healed himself from bone on bone knees through his own research into bioidentical peptides. Without his research he'd have never walked!

That`s why he is called a total dickhead "The Miracle Man"....physician,heal thyself ! 

[SF1900]

SF1900: Hey what do you think of this guy?

DJ181: Let me explain by posting more pics of myself.

haha lol. DJ181 cant but help seek attention from internet strangers. 

[Van_Bilderass]

Spot da fuck on!!!

Here's me off gear for over 6 months and me on weigh buck 60 in both pics

Oh and if you insult me or say something nasty you're going straight to my ignore user list so... Be very careful 😉

In fact half the shits in this thread are already on ignore😂😂🤣🤣🤣

Steve Reeves was a unicorn, by which I mean his structure was close to flawless, even his face was ridiculously good, things really came together in a rare event. I think he was as good as natural, he probably experimented with something but it was so little it was pretty inconsequential. But if we compare Reeves to wes or dj and didn't know about PEDs we'd think "hmm there's something wes and dj have that Reeves doesn't, can't quite put my finger on it. Reeves is a superior bodybuilder and way bigger but something is different." That's the look I'm talking about. So forget about stats when assessing physiques. Stats do have relevance when we look at achievable fat free mass for example but forget about it for the most part. Simple time spent in the gym does not compensate for lack of drugs either. The so-called muscle maturity doesn't give you a roided looking physique. Calling out little guys for their juicing does not mean we are necessarily jealous either, or aren't as dedicated to the craft, it's just a simple case of observing what drugs typically do for a body. There are tons of little signs of drugs too, like the area between your thumb and index finger which can get swollen (muscular), the temple and jaw muscle on you head, you know areas you don't typically train directly.

Look at this fella here. Think of his stats, look at the overall size, look at the legs. Yet something is different just judging by a small peek at his forearms, here extra unusual considering his age. Fella been in the gym for 40 or 50 years, why shouldn't he have some muscle? It's not much but it just looks unnatural. He is a stick though but average folks would still call him jacked.

I'm not some infallible authority either so I'll gladly listen to objections to my view.

[njflex]

Steve Reeves was a unicorn, by which I mean his structure was close to flawless, even his face was ridiculously good, things really came together in a rare event. I think he was as good as natural, he probably experimented with something but it was so little it was pretty inconsequential. But if we compare Reeves to wes or dj and didn't know about PEDs we'd think "hmm there's something wes and dj have that Reeves doesn't, can't quite put my finger on it. Reeves is a superior bodybuilder and way bigger but something is different." That's the look I'm talking about. So forget about stats when assessing physiques. Stats do have relevance when we look at achievable fat free mass for example but forget about it for the most part. Simple time spent in the gym does not compensate for lack of drugs either. The so-called muscle maturity doesn't give you a roided looking physique. Calling out little guys for their juicing does not mean we are necessarily jealous either, or aren't as dedicated to the craft, it's just a simple case of observing what drugs typically do for a body. There are tons of little signs of drugs too, like the area between your thumb and index finger which can get swollen (muscular), the temple and jaw muscle on you head, you know areas you don't typically train directly.

Look at this fella here. Think of his stats, look at the overall size, look at the legs. Yet something is different just judging by a small peek at his forearms, here extra unusual considering his age. Fella been in the gym for 40 or 50 years, why shouldn't he have some muscle? It's not much but it just looks unnatural. He is a stick though but average folks would still call him jacked.

I'm not some infallible authority either so I'll gladly listen to objections to my view.

the 'neck'is a giveaway too it gets thickened and veiny 'hard look to it...

[Van_Bilderass]

the 'neck'is a giveaway too it gets thickened and veiny 'hard look to it...

Yeah, traps, neck and delts. Back when the DDR women juiced everyone talked about their strangely wide upper backs, something unnatural about it, like in the swimmers.

[falco]

I was on Cheetos and grape drank when this pic was taken.   

King.

[Marvin Martian]

Does Medicare cover TRT?

I am not sure. I’m only 52 (soon 53). It freaking SHOULD. There is absolutely no argument against the FACT that if more men (and women of course) ate a good diet. I hate saying “clean” because we are not SUPPOSED to eat processed garbage. My wife and I eat what on paper may seem like a “boring” diet but the food is freaking delicious by any standard. She is Cajun and you don’t get any better than that food now cher! I don’t understand the obsession with having something different to eat each day. For centuries people ate basically the same thing every day.

Anyway - that and keeping their hormone levels optimal would DEFINITELY be a negative for big pharma -

[pamith]

Chris Bumstead is not natty

[pamith]

Natural?

Not natty

[Van_Bilderass]

I am not sure. I’m only 52 (soon 53). It freaking SHOULD. There is absolutely no argument against the FACT that if more men (and women of course) ate a good diet. I hate saying “clean” because we are not SUPPOSED to eat processed garbage. My wife and I eat what on paper may seem like a “boring” diet but the food is freaking delicious by any standard. She is Cajun and you don’t get any better than that food now cher! I don’t understand the obsession with having something different to eat each day. For centuries people ate basically the same thing every day.

Anyway - that and keeping their hormone levels optimal would DEFINITELY be a negative for big pharma -

Regarding "big pharma" I don't think there is a big conspiracy of trying to keep people off "bioidentical" hormones. Sure testosterone is not patentable but the cat is out of the bag, there is a big push by other interests of putting EVERYONE on testosterone an GH and a bunch of ancillary drugs to work with the test.
Now I read that there has sprung up a whole industry around the glp1 weight loss drugs, docs working with gym chains prescribing the drugs and then you also need a gym membership to keep the muscle and only lose the fat. So they now offer special training programs for people on the drugs... as if there was a difference to normal training lol. * Of course the testo and GH is also needed as an adjunct and drug companies will further develop SARMs to go with the weight loss drugs. I don't know if anyone remembers how I used to say, when some here complained of widespread PED use by people who really should not use them, that we will never have less drugs, how WE NEED MORE DRUGS, we need BETTER DRUGS, Lol and of course some thought this guy is a lunatic, but obviously this is the direction it will go and necessarily must go. I have said that the solution to obesity is not for people no develop discipline and self control, it will never work in an environment of excess and abundance. Only more and better drugs will work. I say this not just because I love drugs or am drug obsessed, it's just the obvious direction of things, it doesn't help to cry or protest it, like that oldfella we have here crying about drugs and steroids. We've seen nothing yet.

Manic post driven by 3 cups of coffee and a couple of PWO caps lol.

* https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/01/business/ozempic-wegovy-equinox-life-time-gyms/index.html

[Van_Bilderass]

Regarding good food and eating healthy "unprocessed" food. What exactly is the ideal diet for health? I'm only asking rhetorically because ask 5 people and you get 5 different answers. Carbs or no carbs, fat or low fat, vegetables and fruit, or not, on and on. And of course there's nothing wrong with "processed" per se, the question is only what works. The best food might come from a lab and probably will come from a lab in the future, some super duper ultraprocessed completely synthetic shit but which is good for us, which will of course be contested by many. There will be interests wanting to control people of course and perhaps even evil people wanting to kill us too, with their "healthy food" lol.

[Van_Bilderass]

Regarding government wanting to control us, anti-government types used to say weed was banned because "they" want us on PHARMA drugs instead, they don't want us on weed that God gave us humans which is not only good for our bodies but also for our minds, helping us see the truth lol. What happened? Suddenly everything was about weed and how it helps everything and scientists got on board and it was like "they" want everyone on weed lol. That Sanjay Gupta celebrity doc who makes documentaries used to be anti-weed but now says he would recommend it even to his parents instead of sleeping pills. Not only weed but mushrooms and other psychedelics? What the hell, something stinks here, why are "they" pushing these drugs on us? Fuck that, I'm not smoking weed and won't take shrooms, they only want us pacified so we don't care about other government overreach, they just want to control us! Thailand legalized it, now Germany too, countries legalizing personal use of all drugs. I'm going straight edge. Lol.

[dj181]

Regarding good food and eating healthy "unprocessed" food. What exactly is the ideal diet for health? I'm only asking rhetorically because ask 5 people and you get 5 different answers. Carbs or no carbs, fat or low fat, vegetables and fruit, or not, on and on. And of course there's nothing wrong with "processed" per se, the question is only what works. The best food might come from a lab and probably will come from a lab in the future, some super duper ultraprocessed completely synthetic shit but which is good for us, which will of course be contested by many. There will be interests wanting to control people of course and perhaps even evil people wanting to kill us too, with their "healthy food" lol.

not high pro

[MAXX]

Steve Reeves was a unicorn, by which I mean his structure was close to flawless, even his face was ridiculously good, things really came together in a rare event. I think he was as good as natural, he probably experimented with something but it was so little it was pretty inconsequential. But if we compare Reeves to wes or dj and didn't know about PEDs we'd think "hmm there's something wes and dj have that Reeves doesn't, can't quite put my finger on it. Reeves is a superior bodybuilder and way bigger but something is different." That's the look I'm talking about. So forget about stats when assessing physiques. Stats do have relevance when we look at achievable fat free mass for example but forget about it for the most part. Simple time spent in the gym does not compensate for lack of drugs either. The so-called muscle maturity doesn't give you a roided looking physique. Calling out little guys for their juicing does not mean we are necessarily jealous either, or aren't as dedicated to the craft, it's just a simple case of observing what drugs typically do for a body. There are tons of little signs of drugs too, like the area between your thumb and index finger which can get swollen (muscular), the temple and jaw muscle on you head, you know areas you don't typically train directly.

Look at this fella here. Think of his stats, look at the overall size, look at the legs. Yet something is different just judging by a small peek at his forearms, here extra unusual considering his age. Fella been in the gym for 40 or 50 years, why shouldn't he have some muscle? It's not much but it just looks unnatural. He is a stick though but average folks would still call him jacked.

I'm not some infallible authority either so I'll gladly listen to objections to my view.

unrelated question. how much drugs do you think this monster is on. I mean he has by far the thickest legs ever in history. And the rest is pretty impressive aswell. There has to be a shitload of drugs for the human body to support this kind of mass. I'm thinking Dallas type dosages, what do you think?

[Van_Bilderass]

unrelated question. how much drugs do you think this monster is on. I mean he has by far the thickest legs ever in history. And the rest is pretty impressive aswell. There has to be a shitload of drugs for the human body to support this kind of mass. I'm thinking Dallas type dosages, what do you think?

I've seen him but haven't really "taken it in" or compared to others, how he looks standing next to others etc. Actually, first impression was that he wasn't even close as drug laden as Dallas, probably not even a 3rd as many milligrams or variety of drugs. Reason being that he doesn't have the finish and skinless glowing look of massive drugs lol, don't know exactly how to explain what I mean. I think several grams of test and Deca and some GH and insulin but not the 25-40iu GH and 200iu of insulin with half a gram of orals daily of some. Just an oaf from the jungle somewhere lol. I could be wrong but this was my first impression. Where is he from and is he linked to some coach we know?

[Bevo]

I was on Cheetos and grape drank when this pic was taken.   

Holy stuffed thong of peace 

[wes]

Holy stuffed thong of peace 

Stuffed with my own personal Kielbasa!  LOL 

[Rambone]

I’ll be god damned dead before I ever call a grown man Timothy “Kielbasa” Wescott!

[ThisisOverload]

Van B is spot on.

The guy in question has the "look".

Been around hundreds of juicers from body builders, powerlifters to average gym rats.

You can tell.

[jude2]

Van B is spot on.

The guy in question has the "look".

Been around hundreds of juicers from body builders, powerlifters to average gym rats.

You can tell.

How can you tell if the skinny young guys at the gym are on the juice? I has some tell me what they were taking and they didn't even look like they lift weights.