Complaining the koran or Allah is violent is ridiculous if one doesn't say the same of the bible and God.
This is the dangers of false equivalency. Try to compare something you know nothing about to something you do, it protects you from having to know about 2 things.
I systematically have a quote system, I take a number generator to do random sampling. The Quran doesn't have bad sections, it's toxic from the first to the last page. It's not about quoting specific words, it's that you can't find a section of the Quran that doesn't have the "true believer" "non believer" dichotomy.
Christianity was formed when the only competition was from random messiah cults. It wasn't challenged by these cults because they had no state support and weren't well adapted to building their own churches.
The Quran however was created when there was already centuries of established religions in the near east. The Caliphate wasn't just spreading the word of god, it had to spread the word of the correct god and ensure the population was hostile to people who didn't celebrate the right god.
That's the neuroscience of how the religion spreads.
IF a Christian wants to find hate in the bible they can, they have to want to do so.
The old testament is a disgusting account of genocide and murder.
Yes and one of the main mechanisms of the bible is convincing the reader the new Roman Christian era is far better than the times of the old testament.
It's why most of the heroes in the old testament had obvious flaws, and Christ did not. In classical times the romans kept running into the problem of hero cults. Where people would take one god/hero and put him ahead of all the other gods. The romans didn't want this because it created sectarian violence.
They ensured the old testament was inherently flawed, so when you got to the new testament Jesus's status as the GOAT was undeniable.
Are people really that ignorant that they don't know their bible? (well of course they are) So many accounts in the OT where God, who is described as jealous and wrathful, who punishes people over many generations, commands cities to be razed, every human, child and even animal is to be put to death.
You mean is the bible so flexible that people can skip entire sections and never have any reference to them?
This is why the bible is great, you can skip over the parts that don't apply.
EDIT: A key feature with Christianity is it's built on Greco-Roman philosophy, this means you can use logic and reason to resolve inconsistencies and figure out what parts of the book are canon. The Quran is written with the purpose of hostility.
The Quran isn't that long, and there's no obvious way of skipping and including some parts.
It's not written like the bible.
The bible is an ancient library that was modified to prevent radicalism.
The Quran was written by the caliphate to ensure people were hostile to outsiders.
And it worked fabulously well, Muslims don't just hate Jews they hate everyone including family members, wives, daughters etc. It's a hateful religion and culture.
Goliathon, you say the koran is ridiculous and retarded... do you say the same about Christianity? You must or else it's just ridiculous. I think it's kind of ok to be partisan, but it's retarded to be a hypocrite.
I'm not here to defend Christianity. Thing is with Christianity is you could literally create a self censored abridged version of the book and most people wouldn't care.
But what about Christianity in practise today, isn't it peaceful? If it is it's only because people ignore sections of the bible and insert whatever they want in there, LGBTQ love or whatever.
The gay hating isn't at all widespread and even then most of the time it's in context of rampant hedonism.
Sodom and Gomorrah, sodomites.
And if you want to remove lines from the bible and get rid of Islam altogether that's a trade I'm happy to make.
At least you can say of the muslims that they actually believe in their scriptures and practise it, unlike Christians today. I give them that, even if I find it distasteful and don't want to see it in the west.
This is the dumbest argument ever. Christians are flexible, that's sort of the point.
Christianity isn't derived from an instruction manual that tells you who and how to hate.
Christianity is a series of principles, and when they conflict with everyday reality, the not stupid can adapt.
I can hate gay hedonism/orgies/aids parties, while not hating a man who just wants to go balls deep into long term life mate.
