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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #175 on: February 03, 2025, 09:55:09 AM »
What are the benefits of honey?

As discussed before, the main benefits of eating honey in moderation may include:

blood pressure management
cholesterol management
wound healing when used topically
cough suppression
polyphenol content, which is thought to aid in digestion and have other health benefits
antioxidant content, which fights free radicals

https://honeyngreens.co.uk/blogs/news/how-raw-honey-improves-gym-workout-performance-and-endurance?srsltid=AfmBOorgSi2qSAq3JoiD0MRF46xQfcHnBI7It4Uf1UqG9tOGjuQ2BKMA

many of these claims are unproven, however I don't discount the idea that foods contain nutrients and cause certain effects we aren't aware of yet. I did hear recently that putting honey in boiling hot tea water destroys some of the beneficial substances. :D

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #176 on: February 03, 2025, 09:56:12 AM »
I think a tablespoon of honey here and there won't hurt folks.
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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #177 on: February 03, 2025, 10:04:34 AM »
"A spoonful of honey makes the medicine go down." -- Mary Poppins

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #178 on: February 03, 2025, 10:05:40 AM »
Mary Poppins said "a spoonfull of sugar helps the medicine go down"

I wish she wouldnt give out stupid advice like that.
My dads diabetic and almost ended up in a fucking coma listening to the silly bitch

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #179 on: February 03, 2025, 10:06:43 AM »
I think a tablespoon of honey here and there won't hurt folks.

Eating 300 grams of carbs/sugars each day (western diet) is not a good idea.

People who love carbs/sugars try to find ways to keep on eating all those carbs.

Thus we have the "honey is fine to eat" folks.

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #180 on: February 03, 2025, 10:08:37 AM »
Bee pollen is much better than just the honey.

Anyone know a good source?

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #181 on: February 03, 2025, 10:08:38 AM »
Mary Poppins said "a spoonfull of sugar helps the medicine go down"

I wish she wouldnt give out stupid advice like that.
My dads diabetic and almost ended up in a fucking coma listening to the silly bitch

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #182 on: February 03, 2025, 10:48:18 AM »
Bee pollen is much better than just the honey.

Anyone know a good source?
LOL  ;D

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #183 on: February 03, 2025, 11:29:31 AM »
Reminds me, one of the carnivore gurus said his electrolyte levels were always off, so now he says he eats a little honey each day because the insulin helps mineral retention. No idea why honey, could be a banana as well or whatever. I doubt extreme carb restriction is life extending overall but that is just a hunch on my part. Trying to zero insulin, nah, it's not possible anyway.

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #184 on: February 03, 2025, 11:35:02 AM »
Eating 300 grams of carbs/sugars each day (western diet) is not a good idea.

People who love carbs/sugars try to find ways to keep on eating all those carbs.

Thus we have the "honey is fine to eat" folks.

What about folks like Paul Saladino?

Either way, if you eat well, honey is fine in moderation like anything.
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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #185 on: February 03, 2025, 11:44:08 AM »
I think a tablespoon of honey here and there won't hurt folks.
I agree & so did Steve Reeves  ;D

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #186 on: February 03, 2025, 12:05:56 PM »
I agree & so did Steve Reeves.

Is he still dead?

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #187 on: February 03, 2025, 12:13:22 PM »
What about folks like Paul Saladino?

Either way, if you eat well, honey is fine in moderation like anything.


A tbls of honey alone won't hurt you.

A tbls of honey combined with donuts, pizza, ice cream, grains, bread, rice, pasta, cake, cookies, fruit loops, soda pop, etc. will hurt you.

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #188 on: February 03, 2025, 12:16:05 PM »
Reminds me, one of the carnivore gurus said his electrolyte levels were always off, so now he says he eats a little honey each day because the insulin helps mineral retention. No idea why honey, could be a banana as well or whatever. I doubt extreme carb restriction is life extending overall but that is just a hunch on my part. Trying to zero insulin, nah, it's not possible anyway.

You excrete a lot of water when eating very low carb so you need to make sure you get enough salt in your diet.

You don't want to "zero" insulin. 

You want to reduce excess production of insulin caused by insulin resistance which eventually wears out the pancreas and results in diabetes.

Eating a high calorie, high carb diet ( the Western Diet) causes excessive insulin production.  This is why Type 2 diabetes is running rampant in the U.S.

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #189 on: February 03, 2025, 09:54:44 PM »
You excrete a lot of water when eating very low carb so you need to make sure you get enough salty jizz in your diet.

Ok bro  :D

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #190 on: February 03, 2025, 11:30:24 PM »
I think a tablespoon of honey here and there won't hurt folks.

100% There are a lot of blanket click bait statements going around like ''fruit is unhealthy and just sugar''  etc. Its all relative to the dose and the individual.
yeah high glycemic Fruit and honey are not appropriate for people with poor insulin sensitivity (pre diabetics). Which is the majority of the population. 
People that have abused their body i.e broken their ''machines'' with a life time of poor eating, high stress, little sleep  and no excercise should avoid them until they improve their Insulin sensitivity. But active healthy individuals that have these things in line, have great insulin sensitivity can handle high glycemic carbs relative to their energy expenditure and thats perfectly healthy for them.

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« Reply #191 on: February 04, 2025, 12:00:18 AM »
You excrete a lot of water when eating very low carb so you need to make sure you get enough salt in your diet.

You don't want to "zero" insulin. 

You want to reduce excess production of insulin caused by insulin resistance which eventually wears out the pancreas and results in diabetes.

Eating a high calorie, high carb diet ( the Western Diet) causes excessive insulin production.  This is why Type 2 diabetes is running rampant in the U.S.
It is the high calories that are the problem.

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #192 on: February 04, 2025, 12:06:48 AM »
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Honey is just sugar.

It's mainly fructose which is not healthy to eat.

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I watched the vid, I get what he's saying. I think a lot of these videos have click bait titles with controversial statements to attract engagement. Maybe it's the right way to get simple generic advise across to the general inactive population that is very unhealthy, over weight, stressed, poor sleep and have fucked up their insulin sensitivity. honey and high sugar fruit should be avoided by them, I agree. At least until they have rectified their poor Insulin sensitivity.  But If you are in the minority and are a healthy very active person with stella insulin sensitivity this advise does not apply. Nutrition advice is not so black and white and should be  tailored to the individual.

Refined Sugar (Sucrose) is highly processed as compared to raw unfiltered unheated set honey (REAL honey not the fake adulterated rice syrup crap from china you buy at walmart ). Not comparable AT all. That's like saying a glass of refined GM fruit juice is the same as a piece of wild fruit off a tree.   Honey is not just  glucose & fructose see below (Certain honey's of which there are hundreds of varieties are very low % fructrose, it depends on the floral source the bees gathered the nectar from Honey dew, dandelion, and buckwheat honey are lower in fructose than tupelo, black locust, and sage honey. honeys that do not crystalize and remain liquid have very low % fructose...


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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #193 on: February 04, 2025, 12:44:52 AM »
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« Reply #194 on: February 04, 2025, 02:20:21 AM »
Bit off topic but people dont realize how much food fraud actually goes on. watch the doc called 'Rotten'' its really eye opeing. 

90% of sampled honey bought from large retailers failed pioneering authenticity tests.

Big % of cheap Olive oil is adulterate bunk.

Tested black peppercorns turns out a % were dried papaya seeds  :D


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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #195 on: February 04, 2025, 04:38:38 AM »
Ok bro  :D

Donny, I'm not sure Getbig is the appropriate place for someone with your lack of maturity.

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« Reply #196 on: February 04, 2025, 04:44:38 AM »
Is he still dead?
You're very immature  :D

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« Reply #197 on: February 04, 2025, 05:26:12 AM »
Reminds me, one of the carnivore gurus said his electrolyte levels were always off, so now he says he eats a little honey each day because the insulin helps mineral retention. No idea why honey, could be a banana as well or whatever. I doubt extreme carb restriction is life extending overall but that is just a hunch on my part. Trying to zero insulin, nah, it's not possible anyway.

That'd be Paul Saladino.  After following a strict, very low-carb, meat-only diet for a while, and even writing a book about it, the guy came out as a closet sugar addict.  Now he eats insane amounts of very sweet, tropical fruits and lots of honey daily.  He even pours honey on his steaks.

He has since made lots of bold, crazy claims about the benefits of eating a very high sugar diet, even quoting studies funded by Coca-Cola...lol.  He'll do and say anything to justify his sugar addiction to his followers.

What about folks like Paul Saladino?

Either way, if you eat well, honey is fine in moderation like anything.

Apparently, he stays in shape burning off all that sugar by surfing in Costa Rica for many hours every day, he says.

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Re: Dangers of Statin Drugs
« Reply #198 on: February 04, 2025, 06:12:41 AM »
Bit off topic but people dont realize how much food fraud actually goes on. watch the doc called 'Rotten'' its really eye opeing. 

90% of sampled honey bought from large retailers failed pioneering authenticity tests.

Big % of cheap Olive oil is adulterate bunk.

Tested black peppercorns turns out a % were dried papaya seeds  :D



Didn't watch byt they caught a container of fake honey here. It was just sugar and flavoring I guess lol.

Most recently there was an issue with rice. Apparently there is a quality scale for rice and I think about 80% were supposedly higher quality than they really were.
I would assume it's mostly big volume sellers to restaurants etc and cheap brands because I think brands like Ben's have too much to lose. The whole brand could go up in smoke.

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« Reply #199 on: February 04, 2025, 07:00:40 AM »
You excrete a lot of water when eating very low carb so you need to make sure you get enough salt in your diet.

You don't want to "zero" insulin. 

You want to reduce excess production of insulin caused by insulin resistance which eventually wears out the pancreas and results in diabetes.

Eating a high calorie, high carb diet ( the Western Diet) causes excessive insulin production.  This is why Type 2 diabetes is running rampant in the U.S.

What do you think about this. You are probably not that familiar with insulin use as a PED. But someone like wes takes under 30iu of 24 hour acting insulin per day as a replacement. Just as a relative reference point. You have a couple, and more who haven't talked about it, pro bodybuilders who do the following. First they take lots of GH which causes insulin resistance. Then they train twice daily. Before and after each session they take 25iu of fast acting insulin, that's 100iu total per day. Then in periods, or a couple of days per week, they add 100iu a day of the insulin wes takes abou 27iu of. AND in periods with the 100iu Lantus they eat about 1500g carbs. After years of this they claim perfect insulin sensitivity (there's a few ways to test it). Some of them attribute it to mostly only using during and around workouts so the insulin isn't active around the clock. But what the hell is going on lol, clearly things are a bit more complicated but I would attribute some of it to being so active and eating very low fat plus doing daily cardio. Plus they manage to stay extremely lean always, way leaner than what a doc would call perfect bf%.