Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle

[dj181]

I gained around 12lbs over the years(starting at 163lbs) - so I can approve of the saying that if there's not substantial change in the beginning then it will, most likely, never occur. I'm 5'8" and I'm somewhat robust but still a total manlet. Many years ago, when I was enlisted as a "medic in training" I came across young farmers(called "Gscheate" in Austria) and they were built like brick walls ... minimum 6 feet, thick muscle and tiger paws for hands. Some of them weighed 100 kilos with abs.
I felt like a mammal among Dinosaurs 

@Van_Bilderass
Failure did not do much for me as it just stressed me out. What seems to have worked is have a set tonnage and work it via different "rep times set" schemes culminating in more tonnage. Of course the exercises have to be rotated. Despite my sporty physique quite a few men and women have trusted me in regards to training and what I could verify in all of them is that high volume increased each trainees look & mass.

Steroids are beyond awesome tools but I'm not as much into getting as big as possible(which would still be small) as I used to be. I have started calisthenics and I like it way more than bodybuilding. Like in any endeavor if you ain't made for it, it's a nonsensical game.

Weight and measurements don't mean much

I have be able to look completely different at a buck 60

Weight was the exact same but I looked much different

Yes at the same bodyweight

[joswift]

I am going to disagree and let me explain why. I do a warmup set to "failure" at the beginning of every workout. Pretty much just a lactic acid burn for example I managed 39 reps on leg extensions as my warmup set yesterday. I then banged out heavier sets of around 15-20 reps. Was I hitting absolute failure no I could have gotten another rep or 2 if I had wanted. However I do feel a couple heavy working sets is better than one light set to failure.

I mean just think about it what is better one light set to absolute failure or 5 heavy sets close to failure? The idea is to get a pump and blood and nutrients into the muscle not just to hit failure. If you hit complete failure warming up you don't have neough to hit working sets hard. Those hard working sets are better than just one set to failure.

your effort doesnt translate into gains...

Leave the training threads to people who know what they are talking about you squeaky kunt

[wes]

I am going to disagree and let me explain why. I do a warmup set to "failure" at the beginning of every workout. Pretty much just a lactic acid burn for example I managed 39 reps on leg extensions as my warmup set yesterday. I then banged out heavier sets of around 15-20 reps. Was I hitting absolute failure no I could have gotten another rep or 2 if I had wanted. However I do feel a couple heavy working sets is better than one light set to failure.

I mean just think about it what is better one light set to absolute failure or 5 heavy sets close to failure? The idea is to get a pump and blood and nutrients into the muscle not just to hit failure. If you hit complete failure warming up you don't have neough to hit working sets hard. Those hard working sets are better than just one set to failure.

WHO THE FUCK GOES TO COMPLETE FAILURE ON A WARMUP SET YOU FUCKING TARD

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 

What a fucking know nothing imbecile.  LOL 

[Hulkotron]

Squats supersetted with dumbell pullovers.....

Just kidding, no, there is nothing you can do.

Have to add the gallon of whole-milk per day to see the effect.

[wes]

Have to add the gallon of whole-milk per day to see the effect.

...and you must take 3 deep breaths between each of the twenty rep squats to stimulate your metabolism. 

20 Rep Breathing Squats Of Peace

[bhank]

WHO THE FUCK GOES TO COMPLETE FAILURE ON A WARMUP SET YOU FUCKING TARD

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 

What a fucking know nothing imbecile.  LOL 

Honestly some days I go to failure every set

[joswift]

Honestly some days I go to failure every set

We know failure is something you are familiar with...

[joswift]

Have to add the gallon of whole-milk per day to see the effect.

I used to work 12 hour shifts at a bakery, I used to drink a pint of whole milk every hour during my shift as well as 2 meals

I did it for a month and didnt gain a fucking pound

[_bruce_]

Weight and measurements don't mean much

I have be able to look completely different at a buck 60

Weight was the exact same but I looked much different

Yes at the same bodyweight

You can look good but being a true brute, which hypertrophied muscle visually signals, is a total illusion.

[dj181]

You can look good but being a true brute, which hypertrophied muscle visually signals, is a total illusion.

 

Well that bit of metaphysical speech went straight over my head 😀

[wes]

Honestly some days I go to failure every set

Well when you do a whopping 2 sets per bodypart that`s fucking grueling.....props to you!   
 

[Hulkotron]

3 "working" sets of leg extensions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

Warmed up with 39 reps before moving onto the "heavy work" of 15-20 

[dj181]

Warmed up with 39 reps before moving onto the "heavy work" of 15-20 

maybe you should go to failure on your deadlift warm-ups

big paul and crew are going live now, give 'em a look see

[_bruce_]

Well that bit of metaphysical speech went straight over my head 😀

In short - "wannabe".

[dj181]

maybe you should go to failure on your deadlift warm-ups

big paul and crew are going live now, give 'em a look see

coach kolton said he's never went over 2 grams and all his clients are on 1.5 grams or less

15 also said you should be able to turn pro on 1.5 grams total or less if you have the genetics

a guy in the comments said he had his best off-season ever on primo and estrodial

interesting shit

hey van, what's your thoughts on the idea that 1.5 grams is the spot that shows if you got what it takes or not?

and what about that cycle of primo with estrodial?

they say that one of the reasons for the test base is to get enough estro into the mix, same with tren adding more size to cattle once estrodial is added in

here's the quote "​​Yea right now, I’m using nothing but Primo/Estradiol enanthate and I’ve just had one of the best off seasons I’ve ever had."

here's another interesting comment "​​Was my first time not using a 19-nor during a mass phase. Didn’t notice a difference. It’s all the dose. Almost."

[Amerian Muscle]

In short - "wannabe".

brutal

[Van_Bilderass]

I am going to disagree and let me explain why. I do a warmup set to "failure" at the beginning of every workout. Pretty much just a lactic acid burn for example I managed 39 reps on leg extensions as my warmup set yesterday. I then banged out heavier sets of around 15-20 reps. Was I hitting absolute failure no I could have gotten another rep or 2 if I had wanted. However I do feel a couple heavy working sets is better than one light set to failure.

I mean just think about it what is better one light set to absolute failure or 5 heavy sets close to failure? The idea is to get a pump and blood and nutrients into the muscle not just to hit failure. If you hit complete failure warming up you don't have neough to hit working sets hard. Those hard working sets are better than just one set to failure.

I'm not sure which part of my post you disagree with exactly. Leg extensions is one exercise where many do go to failure because it's safe to do so as well as not as taxing as presses/squats. Doing high rep warmups is something I have done as well if I have an achy or injured part, 50-100 reps. Yeah, doing such high reps on leg ext is probably not the best growth stimulus.

[Van_Bilderass]

interesting shit

hey van, what's your thoughts on the idea that 1.5 grams is the spot that shows if you got what it takes or not?

and what about that cycle of primo with estrodial?

I've said here many times that I think 1500mg gets you probably to like 90% of your steroid max, especially if tren is a substantial part of the mix. As well if GH and insulin are big drivers in your plan. One thing to remember is that many guys actually forget to count oral milligrams when talking total dose, especially precontest, it can add up, especially when coming into a show on 200 a day of orals

Primo and estradiol? I've seen cycles of Deca and estradiol too but the question is why you would do that over just having test in the mix, what's the benefit? I don't see it. But let them experiment.

[Thin Lizzy]

also, people vastly over estimate for how long they can continue to be gaining muscle, and how much muscle they stand to gain over their entire lifetime. realistically, it you havent built the muscle within your first 5 years of training, it's over for you

It’s the Learning Curve. Once you figure out how to train, there’s a period of rapid progress then you level off:

[dj181]

I've said here many times that I think 1500mg gets you probably to like 90% of your steroid max, especially if tren is a substantial part of the mix. As well if GH and insulin are big drivers in your plan. One thing to remember is that many guys actually forget to count oral milligrams when talking total dose, especially precontest, it can add up, especially when coming into a show on 200 a day of orals

Primo and estradiol? I've seen cycles of Deca and estradiol too but the question is why you would do that over just having test in the mix, what's the benefit? I don't see it. But let them experiment.

yep it's strange to use estradiol instead of test to get the estro in there, shit makes no sense as test increases your total anabolic load whereas estradiol does not

[bhank]

coach kolton said he's never went over 2 grams and all his clients are on 1.5 grams or less

15 also said you should be able to turn pro on 1.5 grams total or less if you have the genetics

a guy in the comments said he had his best off-season ever on primo and estrodial

interesting shit

hey van, what's your thoughts on the idea that 1.5 grams is the spot that shows if you got what it takes or not?

and what about that cycle of primo with estrodial?

they say that one of the reasons for the test base is to get enough estro into the mix, same with tren adding more size to cattle once estrodial is added in

here's the quote "​​Yea right now, I’m using nothing but Primo/Estradiol enanthate and I’ve just had one of the best off seasons I’ve ever had."

here's another interesting comment "​​Was my first time not using a 19-nor during a mass phase. Didn’t notice a difference. It’s all the dose. Almost."

You realize estradiol is estrogen how are you taking gear and thinking taking estradiol is a good idea do you want to guarantee gyno? Of course the cattle get bigger adding estrogen do you think it gives hard Quality gains or water and bitch tits?

[joswift]

You realize estradiol is estrogen how are you taking gear and thinking taking estradiol is a good idea do you want to guarantee gyno? Of course the cattle get bigger adding estrogen do you think it gives hard Quality gains or water and bitch tits?

Do you know its not good for you if your estrogen gets too low?

No, of course you dont, maybe thats why you were a fat kunt at your show

[BEEFCAKE]

...and you must take 3 deep breaths between each of the twenty rep squats to stimulate your metabolism. 

20 Rep Breathing Squats Of Peace

Always remember to Superset dumbell pullovers with heavy squats to expand the rib cage

[SweetDaddySiki]

brad says 3-4 meals per day is enough here in this vid

nubret ate only 1 or 2 meals a day supposedly

he also says 2-3 reps in reserve is just as good as going to failure, but i call bs on that

Is Brad the scrawny old guy on the right? 

[IroNat]

What do you call a whore with a runny nose?

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