Taking creatine while cutting ?

[Pet shop boys]

I don't know ...I find it hard that Jay Cutler bother using creatine (or anyone at a pro level)


Anyway, probably a question for the natty GetBigger , can you get lean while taking creatine ?



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[Rambone]

Always use creatine no matter what (even on dialysis if you’re serious about bodybuilding)

[Irongrip400]

I don't know ...I find it hard that Jay Cutler bother using creatine (or anyone at a pro level)


Anyway, probably a question for the natty GetBigger , can you get lean while taking creatine ?



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These dudes suck off guys for money to buy drugs and you don’t think they use creatine?

[Van_Bilderass]

Almost everyone uses creatine. Why not?
And not taking it "while cutting," because it causes water retention, laughable.

Can you get lean? lmao

[oldtimer1]

My 2 cents on creatine. It's the only supplement that I felt really had a muscle building benefit. I was stronger on it and had better pumps. Also thought I was retaining a little water using it.

Having said that my kidney tests came back bad when I was using it. Doc told me to go off it and my kidney tests came back perfect. Was the high Creatinine levels due to muscle breakdown from lifting hard; kidneys failing or the supplement converting from creatine to creatinine?

[Humble Narcissist]

My 2 cents on creatine. It's the only supplement that I felt really had a muscle building benefit. I was stronger on it and had better pumps. Also thought I was retaining a little water using it.

Having said that my kidney tests came back bad when I was using it. Doc told me to go off it and my kidney tests came back perfect. Was the high Creatinine levels due to muscle breakdown from lifting hard; kidneys failing or the supplement converting from creatine to creatinine?

Gives me the shits. With the holding water and cramping, it's not worth the small gains for me anyway.

[Van_Bilderass]

Gives me the shits. With the holding water and cramping, it's not worth the small gains for me anyway.

I've heard this from several people, but imo they are very neurotic people. Like you could take one gram after 3 meals of the day and be fine and still get the performance benefits over time. But some people are so neurotic if they don't shit normally ONCE they immediately abandon the supp, a guy at my work was like this.

Regarding the water retention, some say there was none with Kre-Alkalyn and others, but the thing is Kre-Alkalyn is adviced to be taken at just 3 grams a day, and it is just creatine monohydrate with soda ash. You could just take regular creatine with a little sodium bicarbonate if you think that helps, or just take less!

My 2 cents on creatine. It's the only supplement that I felt really had a muscle building benefit. I was stronger on it and had better pumps. Also thought I was retaining a little water using it.

Having said that my kidney tests came back bad when I was using it. Doc told me to go off it and my kidney tests came back perfect. Was the high Creatinine levels due to muscle breakdown from lifting hard; kidneys failing or the supplement converting from creatine to creatinine?

Creatine is the most studied supp over aabout 30 years, if it was detrimental for kidneys they would have found out by now. Some do say creatine is converted to creatinine but some studies say no.

I'm pretty certain it's safe, if you are in kidney failure don't take it perhaps but even there it may be that it actually helps, I don't know. It may be like protein and anabolics, at a certain point in the disease progression they may actually help e.g. nandrolone reduces muscle catabolism in dialysis patients, and some say these need a bit extra protein too as the uptake is worse.

Milos has recommended 100 grams of creatine a day to his trainees 

[joswift]

Creatine holds water in the cells , apart from a slightly better pump it does absolutely fuck all

Stop taking it and you lose the water and you are back where you started

Waste of money , (same as all fad supplements)

Orchic testicle gland hahahahaha.....fucks sake I actually bought some of that shit

[Van_Bilderass]

Creatine holds water in the cells , apart from a slightly better pump it does absolutely fuck all

But they say a hydrated cell is a more anabolic cell, cell swelling is positive 

There's a bunch of research yada yada. But now they say creatine supps boost mental functioning too. Bunch of research  on this

But you're right, creatine isn't a make it or break it supp, but I do think it helps muscle growth a little over time.

[kreator]

But they say a hydrated cell is a more anabolic cell, cell swelling is positive 

There's a bunch of research yada yada. But now they say creatine supps boost mental functioning too. Bunch of research  on this

But you're right, creatine isn't a make it or break it supp, but I do think it helps muscle growth a little over time.

i buy the mental part, just look  at vegans

[oldtimer1]

People constantly say creatine has been studied but are they real studies?  So much bull shit with supplements. They aren't regulated.

[Van_Bilderass]

People constantly say creatine has been studied but are they real studies? 

99% of consumers don't actually read studies or even know how to interpret studies. Too much effort, including for me most of the time. But they are there...

https://examine.com/supplements/creatine/

Lots linked there. Effects on various organs and systems if you keep scrolling down.

Here is the section on kidneys:1

https://examine.com/supplements/creatine/research/#RQbNpQY-interactions-with-organ-systems_RQbNpQY-kidney

[falco]

I am naturally lean, thin skin, so creatine makes me look leaner and vascular. In thick skin individuals, creatine might cause water retention.

[Gym Rat]

I take 10 grams a day. Shit is so cheap its basically free.
Lots of studies on brain health as one ages... I don't see any negatives w/ it.
Bloodwork was never affected by it.

[joswift]

I take 10 grams a day. Shit is so cheap its basically free.
Lots of studies on brain health as one ages... I don't see any negatives w/ it.
Bloodwork was never affected by it.

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-873/creatine

[loco]

Published online 2023 Mar 18

"Despite some anecdotal reports and experimental data suggesting that creatine could be deleterious to the kidneys, cumulative evidence from independent, randomized controlled trials clearly show this is not the case. We did identify some gaps in the literature, based on which we suggest that it is prudent to avoid creatine supplementation for those who have pre-existing kidney diseases resulting in very low kidney functions. For those at risk of decreased glomerular filtration rate (e.g., some older individuals or those with certain clinical conditions), monitoring kidney function while supplementing with creatine appears to be prudent, although large, relatively long-term studies have shown no risks. Finally, consumers should select creatine supplements that have been properly tested and certified for their quality/purity, avoiding the health risks associated with contaminants."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10054094/


Published online 2021 Feb 8

"Based on our evidence-based scientific evaluation of the literature, we conclude that:

1. Creatine supplementation does not always lead to water retention.
2. Creatine is not an anabolic steroid.
3. Creatine supplementation, when ingested at recommended dosages, does not result in kidney damage and/or renal dysfunction in healthy individuals.
4. The majority of available evidence does not support a link between creatine supplementation and hair loss / baldness.
5. Creatine supplementation does not cause dehydration or muscle cramping.
6. Creatine supplementation appears to be generally safe and potentially beneficial for children and adolescents.
7. Creatine supplementation does not increase fat mass.
8. Smaller, daily dosages of creatine supplementation (3-5 g or 0.1 g/kg of body mass) are effective. Therefore, a creatine ‘loading’ phase is not required.
9. Creatine supplementation and resistance training produces the vast majority of musculoskeletal and performance benefits in older adults. Creatine supplementation alone can provide some muscle and performance benefits for older adults.
10. Creatine supplementation can be beneficial for a variety of athletic and sporting activities.
11. Creatine supplementation provides a variety of benefits for females across their lifespan.
12. Other forms of creatine are not superior to creatine monohydrate."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7871530/

[Lartinos]

Seems to help me a little bit, but it was most noticeable many years ago when I cycled AAS.

With it I wouldn’t get as sore post cycle as opposed to without it.

[Amerian Muscle]

Eat red meat for creatine, don't fall for the supplement scams. Supplements are contaminated with industrial poisons and the info on the labels is deceptive.

[loco]

Eat red meat for creatine, don't fall for the supplement scams. Supplements are contaminated with industrial poisons and the info on the labels is deceptive.

I agree, but you would have to eat 2 pounds of red meat daily to get 5g creatine, which many people on a carnivore diet already do.

[Pet shop boys]

I agree, but you would have to eat 2 pounds of red meat daily to get 5g creatine, which many people on a carnivore diet already do.

This

eating that much meat day in day out is Simply unsustainable.



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[deadz]

I don't know ...I find it hard that Jay Cutler bother using creatine (or anyone at a pro level)


Anyway, probably a question for the natty GetBigger , can you get lean while taking creatine ?



WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH

He sells it therefore he hypes it. All about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[deadz]

Gives me the shits. With the holding water and cramping, it's not worth the small gains for me anyway.

Also raises creatinine. Fuck that garbage!

[Amerian Muscle]

I agree, but you would have to eat 2 pounds of red meat daily to get 5g creatine, which many people on a carnivore diet already do.

2,5 grams of creatine from meat probably beats 5 grams from fake powders

[Humble Narcissist]

Also raises creatinine. Fuck that garbage!

Creatine is muscle waste product.

[Van_Bilderass]

Fuck creatine! Just take bio-identical test FFS! Test, raw meat and eggs, heavy slag iron, what else do you need? Not a goddamn thing.