Donald Von Shitzhizpantz the legend continues.

[Grape Ape]

At some point he stops being a victim and starts being a willing participant.

Based on his latest post to me I agree.

[chaos]

The nerve of you to suggest I'm in a cult when you are the very definition of it.

You think how you're told to think. You don't question it.  You take what you're fed, and pass it on mindlessly as fact, without even reading and understanding it yourself.

I do the exact opposite.  I have tried convey my thought process, and showed you links to independent sources and even a film that  shows you how social media deliberately manipulates and causes harm.

Yet, after all that, you point the finger and say cult, as your masters have told you.

Stay ignorant.  I don't care, just spare us the shitposts.

What do you expect when he has BBC cheering him on?

[Primemuscle]

   so you equate not liking Trump with hating your country. I guess loving Trump as you do equals loving your country. so when you hated Biden what is that

-Depends on who you ask. Ask any right-wing nut and they will tell you hating Biden equals loving your country.

Like you posted, not liking Trump has no bearing on how you feel about your country (the U.S.).

[Grape Ape]

-Depends on who you ask. Ask any right-wing nut and they will tell you hating Biden equals loving your country.

The one thing I find indefensible, is the Biden admin allowing 20+ million folks to flow into the country freely and illegally.

Now that we know it was easy to stop, what is your honest opinion of why that was permitted?

[Dos Equis]

TDS will become a real, studied, thing that will be a part of this country's history.

It's a legit psychological condition - I've probably seen hundreds of videos and even known people affected by it.  Our dishonest media and big tech feed it.

And you cannot reason with them.

A typical conversation goes like this.......

"Trump is a fascsit"

"Oh, can you give me a few examples of him being a fascist"

<scoffs> "If I have to TELL you at this point, you'll never know".

OR

"Trump is a fascist"

"Were you worried about fascism when Biden was in office"

"What do you mean"

"The Berenson lawsuit showed real communication of the Biden admin trying to silence a journalist, and the Twitter files show the admin working to control the media narrative"

<scoffs> "The twitter files?  Please"

"The twitter files show this in plain english, do you think they don't"

"oh, you poor child, bye".


They are a special combo of TDS, condescending, and uninformed, an arrogant.  Just the worst.

Yeah I have some really smart friends who suffer from TDS.  Pretty remarkable how it prevents them from logical thinking regarding Trump. 

[chaos]

The one thing I find indefensible, is the Biden admin allowing 20+ million folks to flow into the country freely and illegally.

Now that we know it was easy to stop, what is your honest opinion of why that was permitted?

He'll have to avoid this question unless google can provide him an opinion on it.

[Primemuscle]

The one thing I find indefensible, is the Biden admin allowing 20+ million folks to flow into the country freely and illegally.

Now that we know it was easy to stop, what is your honest opinion of why that was permitted?

You find this indefensible because it is not correct. According to the CMS (Center for Migration Studies), the correct estimate is that there were approximately 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. when Trump took office in 2025.

According to the DHS, the number of southern border encounters has greatly decreased over the past year (July 2024 to July 2025). Encounters do not equate to illegal border crossings. Illegal immigrants are the folks who are successful in crossing the border illegally. Illegal immigration has not stopped completely.

Ever since the 1790 naturalization act, immigration policies and laws have constantly changed and adapted to various immigration circumstances. Therefore, the ebb and flow of both legal and illegal immigrants is always in flux. Sometimes our doors have been open to immigrants and at other times almost completely closed. This is one reason why less strict immigration policies were in place during the Biden administration which allowed for an increase in numbers of both legal and illegal immigrants.

Recently Trump acknowledged the negative effect his immigration policies have had on the farming and hotel industries and has floated some ideas for temporary immigration status that would allow non-citizens to return to those jobs. As food prices continue to climb which affects everyone, I expect more pressure will be put on the Trump administration to remedy this.

There are no simple solutions for complex situations.

   

[Dos Equis]

The one thing I find indefensible, is the Biden admin allowing 20+ million folks to flow into the country freely and illegally.

Now that we know it was easy to stop, what is your honest opinion of why that was permitted?

You will be hard pressed to get an honest answer from a leftist to this question.  The obvious answer is that Democrats mistakenly believed that a flood of illegal immigrants would create a new class of Democrat voters. 

Beto O'Rourke recently said the quiet part out loud when he said that when Democrats regain power they should have mass amnesty for all illegals in the country.  He's a fool. 

It's actually pretty funny how Trump's support among Hispanic voters is so high.  Total face plant on this issue by Democrats. 

[Grape Ape]

You will be hard pressed to get an honest answer from a leftist to this question.  The obvious answer is that Democrats mistakenly believed that a flood of illegal immigrants would create a new class of Democrat voters. 

Beto O'Rourke recently said the quiet part out loud when he said that when Democrats regain power they should have mass amnesty for all illegals in the country.  He's a fool. 

It's actually pretty funny how Trump's support among Hispanic voters is so high.  Total face plant on this issue by Democrats.

Well, Prime avoided it by correcting my number, and avoided the spirit of the question, as to why so many were permitted in by Biden admin.

Ok prime, call it 11M

Why did they let 11M come in illegally?

[Coach is Back!]

   so you equate not liking Trump with hating your country. I guess loving Trump as you do equals loving your country. so when you hated Biden what is that

100%…. Because you can’t separate the man from the policies. You’re that blind

[funk51]

You find this indefensible because it is not correct. According to the CMS (Center for Migration Studies), the correct estimate is that there were approximately 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. when Trump took office in 2025.

According to the DHS, the number of southern border encounters has greatly decreased over the past year (July 2024 to July 2025). Encounters do not equate to illegal border crossings. Illegal immigrants are the folks who are successful in crossing the border illegally. Illegal immigration has not stopped completely.

Ever since the 1790 naturalization act, immigration policies and laws have constantly changed and adapted to various immigration circumstances. Therefore, the ebb and flow of both legal and illegal immigrants is always in flux. Sometimes our doors have been open to immigrants and at other times almost completely closed. This is one reason why less strict immigration policies were in place during the Biden administration which allowed for an increase in numbers of both legal and illegal immigrants.

Recently Trump acknowledged the negative effect his immigration policies have had on the farming and hotel industries and has floated some ideas for temporary immigration status that would allow non-citizens to return to those jobs. As food prices continue to climb which affects everyone, I expect more pressure will be put on the Trump administration to remedy this.

There are no simple solutions for complex situations.

 

    I hear that they are eating the cats they are eating the dogs . they are eating all the pets. 

[funk51]

The nerve of you to suggest I'm in a cult when you are the very definition of it.

You think how you're told to think. You don't question it.  You take what you're fed, and pass it on mindlessly as fact, without even reading and understanding it yourself.

I do the exact opposite.  I have tried convey my thought process, and showed you links to independent sources and even a film that  shows you how social media deliberately manipulates and causes harm.

Yet, after all that, you point the finger and say cult, as your masters have told you.

Stay ignorant.  I don't care, just spare us the shitposts.

            Yeah you get your news from reliable podcasts like Joe Rogaine.   shit posts and lies, isn't that what Trump's whole campaign was based on,  owning the libtards.

[Grape Ape]

            Yeah you get your news from reliable podcasts like Joe Rogaine.   shit posts and lies, isn't that what Trump's whole campaign was based on,  owning the libtards.

No I don't, and I've explained this many times.

Get lost funk, it's obvious you don't read anything at this point.

[chaos]

No I don't, and I've explained this many times.

Get lost funk, it's obvious you don't read anything at this point you're fucking retarded and suck liberal dick.

Fixed.
As far as any opposing views or conversation about anything political, there are very few you could have any sort of rational conversation with. Lurker/bbc/funk/prime/Abraham are all so far brainwashed with TDS they can't look at anything with an open mind, they're too concerned with "owning" Trump. At this point, engagement is futile.

[funk51]

No I don't, and I've explained this many times.

Get lost funk, it's obvious you don't read anything at this point.

  You are posting in my thread and you are telling me to get lost. it's very simple, just ignore my threads if you don't like what I have to say. I've got no problem personally with you. just don't tell me what I should think or feel on cerrain subjects.

[Grape Ape]

  You are posting in my thread and you are telling me to get lost. it's very simple, just ignore my threads if you don't like what I have to say. I've got no problem personally with you. just don't tell me what I should think or feel on cerrain subjects.

I don't tell you how to feel.

I ask you to question those who ARE telling you how to feel, and ask you not to post things that are false, misleading, and mis/disinformation.

I have nothing personally against you either.  But when I've taken time to explain things IN DETAIL to you, and you respond with "cult" or "joe rogan", it's crap.

But, remember, you did crash this site with your videos, so maybe pick and choose the ones that are actually truth before you post them?

[funk51]

I don't tell you how to feel.

I ask you to question those who ARE telling you how to feel, and ask you not to post things that are false, misleading, and mis/disinformation.

I have nothing personally against you either.  But when I've taken time to explain things IN DETAIL to you, and you respond with "cult" or "joe rogan", it's crap.

But, remember, you did crash this site with your videos, so maybe pick and choose the ones that are actually truth before you post them?

   I didn't crash the site don't put that on me, but I do limit videos to bodybuilding only just in case.       so Trump never lies, he's a paragon of truth, justice and the American way.... 

[Grape Ape]

   I didn't crash the site don't put that on me, but I do limit videos to bodybuilding only just in case.       so Trump never lies, he's a paragon of truth, justice and the American way.... 

You see, I've never said any of that either.

Most of my defense of him is because of folks like you post complete falsehoods that you don't even understand is false.  I think this is dividing our country.

But, you do understand there is middle ground, right?  Everything isn't all bad or all good?

[Primemuscle]

Well, Prime avoided it by correcting my number, and avoided the spirit of the question, as to why so many were permitted in by Biden admin.

Ok prime, call it 11M

Why did they let 11M come in illegally?

Not all 11 million illegal immigrants ‘came in’ during the Biden administration, many were already here.

I did answer your question. To repeat:

Ever since the 1790 naturalization act, immigration policies and laws have constantly changed and adapted to various immigration circumstances. Therefore, the ebb and flow of both legal and illegal immigrants is always in flux. Sometimes our doors have been open to immigrants and at other times almost completely closed. Biden did not break or attempt to change immigration policies (laws) during his administration.

Biden tightened up the boarder when he signed a proclamation on June 4, 2024, restricting immigration. It went into effect on June 5, 2024, and shutting down all asylum requests. The president’s order fell under the Immigration and Nationality Act sections 212(f) and 215(a) suspending entry of noncitizens who cross the southern border into the United States unlawfully.

Note:

A multitude of Trump's immigration policies and tactics have been challenged and have ended up in the Supreme Court. In many cases the Supreme Court has ruled against Trump's actions, while others are still under appeal. Biden followed the law and obeyed immigration policies. Trump has no problem ignoring policies and breaking the law.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/understanding-ina-section-212f-president-authority-suspend-entry-migrants

https://www.lawandsoftware.com/ina/INA-215-sec1185.html

[illuminati]

Well, Prime avoided it by correcting my number, and avoided the spirit of the question, as to why so many were permitted in by Biden admin.

Ok prime, call it 11M

Why did they let 11M come in illegally?

Yep & he's still avoiding The spirit of your question
with the long winded round the bushes above.

Get ready for another nonsensical farcical reply.

[chaos]

Yep & he's still avoiding The spirit of your question
with the long winded round the bushes above.

Get ready for another nonsensical farcical reply.

I particularly like how he tries to pump up Biden by saying he restricted immigration in June of 2024. Why'd he wait 3 1/2 years? Oh to bring in enough illegals to sway the voting booth? As far as courts overturning Trumps moves, of course, he's the most challenged President in history. If he wiped his ass back to front, democrats would start an investigation and push it to the Supreme Court.

[Grape Ape]

I particularly like how he tries to pump up Biden by saying he restricted immigration in June of 2024. Why'd he wait 3 1/2 years? Oh to bring in enough illegals to sway the voting booth? As far as courts overturning Trumps moves, of course, he's the most challenged President in history. If he wiped his ass back to front, democrats would start an investigation and push it to the Supreme Court.

He legit tried to claim it was natural ebb and flow.

As if there was no border crisis, and a big part of why Biden lost wasn't his inability to control the border.  Shit, even dipshit Harris said it was an issue, but she claimed she needed a bipartisan bill to do it (which normalized ~1.8M illegal crossings a year, by the way.)

As for legality, the President can do what he wants if it's in the spirit of protecting American citizens.  Closing the border is doing exactly that.  Leaving it open with 10+M encounters over 4 years is not.

What reality do these folks exist in?

[illuminati]

I particularly like how he tries to pump up Biden by saying he restricted immigration in June of 2024. Why'd he wait 3 1/2 years? Oh to bring in enough illegals to sway the voting booth? As far as courts overturning Trumps moves, of course, he's the most challenged President in history. If he wiped his ass back to front, democrats would start an investigation and push it to the Supreme Court.

He likes to play silly word games, think he must get off doing it.
That & playing daft which he's very good at.

FFS the sleep walking train wreck pedo Joe was a complete nob end, yet prime
Still defends - jeez when all on here were saying pedo Joe was completely gone
Prime was still arguing he was fully cognitive - a shining example of how stupid
He is & won't accept reality. 

[Primemuscle]

I particularly like how he tries to pump up Biden by saying he restricted immigration in June of 2024. Why'd he wait 3 1/2 years? Oh to bring in enough illegals to sway the voting booth? As far as courts overturning Trumps moves, of course, he's the most challenged President in history. If he wiped his ass back to front, democrats would start an investigation and push it to the Supreme Court.

It is highly unlikely that enough illegal non-citizens voted in the 2024 federal election to sway it. If you have information to show otherwise, feel free to post it.

That Biden restricted immigration in June 2024 is a fact, not a compliment. Had he restricted it sooner, Trump would not have won the election. A considerable part of Trump's campaign was based on the fact that he promised to 'fix' runaway immigration.

Trump is legally challenged (sued) because he ignores the U.S. Constitution and thumbs his nose at the law, not because of how he wipes his butt.

It seems to me Republican's mount at least as many 'investigations' as do Democrats, but I am not going to tally them for you. You can do that if you choose.     

[illuminati]

He legit tried to claim it was natural ebb and flow.

As if there was no border crisis, and a big part of why Biden lost wasn't his inability to control the border.  Shit, even dipshit Harris said it was an issue, but she claimed she needed a bipartisan bill to do it (which normalized ~1.8M illegal crossings a year, by the way.)

As for legality, the President can do what he wants if it's in the spirit of protecting American citizens.  Closing the border is doing exactly that.  Leaving it open with 10+M encounters over 4 years is not.

What reality do these folks exist in?

He's beyond help now - Lord knows what kinda fucked up reality he lives in his mind.

Can't / won't answer a simple straight forward question he hasn't got it in him to
Do so, just posts long word salad or copy & paste answers - the decline in his posting
Has become so obvious, its pointless being serious with him now.