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[IroNat]

THANKS EVERYONE, for replies to my post....

I stand corrected my prescription for test cream is ONLY 100mg per week, with 2 clicks from the container every day on my balls.(they sent me 2 boxes, 100 mg each, so that was my initial confusion)....

As I said they also prescribed me 25 mg of DHEA per day??

I'm thinking about adding 300 to 500 mg a day of Ashwaganda for muscle building and better sleep/recovery?

Van_Bilderass, you mentioned that at my height I should only weigh 190 pounds? Doesn't a person's build and structure have sometime to do with this? If I lost 45 pounds I would be DEAD!..Bodyfat too high, but i DO NOT drink, smoke and I eat pretty healthy as is.

The clinic did/does make you/me sign a form saying I will not seek testosterone in any other form or additional prescription drugs with my Test Cream and other demands.....

I said it.

Unless you are a true mesomorph you are carrying a lot of fat.

You weigh as much as an NFL linebacker who is 6"2.

High bodyfat drops your test.

5'11" and 190 is very solid but you weigh 45 lbs more than that at age 59 and natty?

[Tom]

I would be happy if I was 5'10 and weighed I don't know somewhere between 200 to 220 with bodyfat in the teens, if possible...

[Van_Bilderass]

Oh, I totally missed that this was with cream. So if you put on 100mg MAYBE you could get 10mg a day penetration, if you put it on your nuts (much higher uptake on scrotal skin lol). I have a feeling you might come up low still next testing. Best additional supplement would be gh peptides or GH itself. The peptides are really innocuous, just boosts your own GH. You don't even have to think about it, just try it and see if you notice anything. But I know you won't. Melatonin might be helpful too. For sleep, a tiny bit more GH. Ashwagandha is nice but it's so mild most probably wouldn't notice it but it does do something, I've used a lot of it. It's not out of the question that if you don't get much response from the cream, and many don't, you might try the inject?

I didn't say anything about your weight I don't think 

[dj181]

STFU you have no idea what you are talking about. 200-300mg is a standard TRT dosage it will put you right where you need to be.

Go fuck yourself shitstain

True trt is 75-125 or even 1 mg per kilo

[Tom]

Van_Bilderass...

I"m ignorant about GH peptides and actual GH...

I'm guessing actual GH is a prescription only or you get it from someone, "cough cough" somewhere else? And is actual GH (in what form?) expensive?

GH peptides are a supplement you can get anywhere?...

Doesn't actual GH cause your head and organs to grow? Or is that only if you are taking MASSIVE amounts like a pro bber?.....

I've only been on the TEST cream for 22 days as of today...My next appointment and blood draw I believe is in July sometime?

I do wonder if my TEST is still not improved would this clinic up the dosage or say you know sorry we can't give you more (by law or their practice rules?).... I forgot to ask them, what is the GOAL of test levels with this test cream? Where do they want me to be?...

[bhank]

Van_Bilderass...

I"m ignorant about GH peptides and actual GH...

I'm guessing actual GH is a prescription only or you get it from someone, "cough cough" somewhere else? And is actual GH (in what form?) expensive?

GH peptides are a supplement you can get anywhere?...

Doesn't actual GH cause your head and organs to grow? Or is that only if you are taking MASSIVE amounts like a pro bber?.....

I've only been on the TEST cream for 22 days as of today...My next appointment and blood draw I believe is in July sometime?

I do wonder if my TEST is still not improved would this clinic up the dosage or say you know sorry we can't give you more (by law or their practice rules?).... I forgot to ask them, what is the GOAL of test levels with this test cream? Where do they want me to be?...

A TRT clinic will also sell HGH there is no limit on how much HGH they can prescribe unlike Test. They will sell you as much HGH as you can afford. You should want to be over 1000 there goal for you is probably 500-600 they can prescribe you up to about 3-400mg a week that is it. They will switch you to injections if you say the cream isn't doing it. It is not just your tested levels but how you feel that matters.

Titan also has all the HGH precursor peptides they will sell you they are certainly cheaper than actual hgh. They cater to bodybuilders and advertise at all the big shows.  I would recommend them over a standard clinic catering to old men

https://titanmedicalcenter.com/

[joswift]

A TRT clinic will also sell HGH there is no limit on how much HGH they can prescribe unlike Test. They will sell you as much HGH as you can afford. You should want to be over 1000 there goal for you is probably 500-600 they can prescribe you up to about 3-400mg a week that is it. They will switch you to injections if you say the cream isn't doing it. It is not just your tested levels but how you feel that matters.

Titan also has all the HGH precursor peptides they will sell you they are certainly cheaper than actual hgh. They cater to bodybuilders and advertise at all the big shows.  I would recommend them over a standard clinic catering to old men

https://titanmedicalcenter.com/

Any reputable clinic wont do that, you always go to dodgy underground labs that get shut down

Shut the fuck up Brian

Tests include direct measurement of your HGH as well as indirect tests. Indirect tests help tell us about other factors that may be influencing your HGH production. This evaluation method allows us to tailor the perfect treatment protocol to your unique profile.
Once the ideal treatment is laid out from your physician, we will continue to follow up and monitor your progress. While on HGH we want to ensure necessary adjustments are made to reduce any risks and improve outcomes based upon routine lab work. Your lab work will include:
Cholesterol
Blood Glucose
Insulin
Bone Density
Your follow-up appointments allow us to provide you with the best outcomes possible. You will work directly with the Ehormones MD team to ensure you are not left in the dark. Ehormones MD Los Angeles will work with you to get the required tests and appointments scheduled throughout your treatment with us.

https://ehormones.com/los-angeles-hormone-replacement-therapy-hrt/

[Van_Bilderass]

Tom I probably shouldn't have mentioned the GH, it's pretty straightforward but you take years to take the plunge on anything.

See if you notice anything on the cream. Lots of people tire of slapping it on everday, or is it twice a day, and it's not well absorbed always.

Titan is I think the one Mel Chancey the former Hell's Angels president, is associated with. They are brazen imo but they've been allowed to operate openly for so long, must have some protection from the top so to speak 

[Hulkotron]

Interesting how many getbiggers think they would be dead if they dropped to 190 lbs at 5'10".

[IroNat]

Interesting how many getbiggers think they would be dead if they dropped to 190 lbs at 5'10".

Not to mention 5'10.75".

[GymnJuice]

Interesting how many getbiggers think they would be dead if they dropped to 190 lbs at 5'10".

It is physically impossible for Hanky to weigh less than 200 lbs.

[Tom]

Thanks to all who are responding to my posts and questions....

1) I just looked into my men's clinic and they do NOT sell any GH products of any kind....

2) I only have to put the TEST cream on me once a day, on the balls, so no issue with that.

3) I checked into the TITAN clinic and the website link given, and I did NOT see any GH real or peptides being sold there or information on their site?

4) God knows, no general practioner doctor will prescribe me or anyone with prescription GH! Is GH the real stuff a "controlled substance"?  Should I just for the beginning time being start off with GH peptide supplement of some sort?

[dj181]

Interesting how many getbiggers think they would be dead if they dropped to 190 lbs at 5'10".

The great serge Nubret was 200 at 6 foot but yeah his chest and arms were tiny

[Van_Bilderass]

Thanks to all who are responding to my posts and questions....

1) I just looked into my men's clinic and they do NOT sell any GH products of any kind....

2) I only have to put the TEST cream on me once a day, on the balls, so no issue with that.

3) I checked into the TITAN clinic and the website link given, and I did NOT see any GH real or peptides being sold there or information on their site?

4) God knows, no general practioner doctor will prescribe me or anyone with prescription GH! Is GH the real stuff a "controlled substance"?  Should I just for the beginning time being start off with GH peptide supplement of some sort?

I'll humor you with some opinion. GH is sought after because it's supposed to improve skin, make it thicker, make you heal faster, sleep better, improve immunity, which in theory could stop some cancers even developing. It will nit build any measurable muscle you see on the scale but you may feel everything is just a little better, recovery and so on.

GP don't prescribe it because the law is unclear. Authorities have completely let off the reins, don't know the classification but who cares if you have a a script.

There are hundreds of websites who sell these GH peptides openly. A gray area. But since you are a hypochondriac it's better to just forget it for now. If you fall in love with the test buy a tiny dose of GH from a clinic with an Rx and see. The GH peptides you don't need a script for though but you are playing with needles several times a day. There's nothing to it but may be annoying over time

[Tom]

thanks van_bilderass for your educated experience comments...

I was thinking aren't there GH peptides or just peptides supplements? Are they worthless, don't do anything?....

What are your thoughts on HUMANOFORT? I get alot of messages on my facebook page about it?

So as it is, I'm on the 100mg of test, 25 mg of DHEA, the nitric oxide (not sure why this?), and I take HMB, creatine, glutamine, multivitamin, extra Vitamin D and B12 and of course protein....

[AbrahamG]

My buddy started on the cream it didn't do much for him so he switched to the injections. 100mg isn't going to do a whole lot regarldess. To give you an idea I cruise around 3-400mg year round with no other anabolics I do take HGH but that is anti aging it's not building any muscle. I am also 215lbs and below 10%.

Tell him how big your cock is too Bhanks.

[bhank]

Just saying the guy wants to be 215lbs and below 10% bodyfat. I am the only one responding who fits that description. 100mg of ball cream is not going to do it.

[Sandrock]

Interesting how many getbiggers think they would be dead if they dropped to 190 lbs at 5'10".

"Medically too lean"

[Van_Bilderass]

thanks van_bilderass for your educated experience comments...

I was thinking aren't there GH peptides or just peptides supplements? Are they worthless, don't do anything?....

What are your thoughts on HUMANOFORT? I get alot of messages on my facebook page about it?

So as it is, I'm on the 100mg of test, 25 mg of DHEA, the nitric oxide (not sure why this?), and I take HMB, creatine, glutamine, multivitamin, extra Vitamin D and B12 and of course protein....

Nitric Oxide doesn't refer to any specific product, well it dies but it's not pure NO. I suspect it's some type of supplement designed to increase NO. NO is for erections. What you want is Cialis if it's a "problem" for you, or even if it isn't...

Humanofort is a Romanian chicken egg extract, which is claimed to do a bunch of things. Some users claim effects. I'm skeptical but try it if you have cash to experiment

The peptides I'm talking about are injectables, many or most "clinics" sell them, most likely this is not something for you at this time right? Your place might not be completely old-school though, if they immediately put you on DHEA, that's not really "proven"

Just do the cream and if you're not satisfiend in the future they'll switch you to injections no problem. These "orthodox" places just want to try the creams first for various reasons

That you're willing to touch testosterone at all is big lol

[Tom]

Thanks again Van_bilderass and Bhanks for your education and experience in your comments..

1) Nitric Oxide, well I don't have a problem "getting it up" so i'm not quite sure why they prescribed these pills to me (2 a day one morning, one night on a empty stomach) but I did think that NO products are used pre and post workouts for blood pumping into the muscle? Don't know if this is just a temporary surge and pointless to use?

2) I was told the TEST cream is simply easier to do myself at home everyday as opposed to getting TEST injections?  I was under the impression that the injections would be once a week at the clinic and inconvenient when I could just use the TEST cream at home everyday? The injections are cypionate, not sure what KIND of TEST is in the cream, but supposedly each is 100 mg of whatever TEST, one not more than the other...They did really push the cream, and injections and needles given to me at home was never mentioned.

3) If I wanted to stay with the cream, I don't think they would even make a cream that has more (i.e. 300 to 400 mg of TEST) nor would this clinic give it to me anyway...

4)As far as HGH or Peptides, I guess I would have to go to a different clinic. I checked Peptides on Amazon, but they all look like "natural" peptides with collagen and just more vitamins in the mix?

5) I do know of (casual acquaintance) a local national competitor bber who also is a trainer, who i'm sure I could get said products from, because of course if he competes in national shows you know he's on the special supplement program!..

6) it will be interesting with my next appointment at this clinic if my TEST doesn't reach any much higher level, would they give me a higher does of the cream (I wonder if their 100 mg of test cream is standard for every man that has low test) or yes, go to the higher level of TEST with injections... Will see... Okay, sorry i'm rambling...

[bhank]

Thanks again Van_bilderass and Bhanks for your education and experience in your comments..

1) Nitric Oxide, well I don't have a problem "getting it up" so i'm not quite sure why they prescribed these pills to me (2 a day one morning, one night on a empty stomach) but I did think that NO products are used pre and post workouts for blood pumping into the muscle? Don't know if this is just a temporary surge and pointless to use?

2) I was told the TEST cream is simply easier to do myself at home everyday as opposed to getting TEST injections?  I was under the impression that the injections would be once a week at the clinic and inconvenient when I could just use the TEST cream at home everyday? The injections are cypionate, not sure what KIND of TEST is in the cream, but supposedly each is 100 mg of whatever TEST, one not more than the other...They did really push the cream, and injections and needles given to me at home was never mentioned.

You would do at home its not difficukt

3) If I wanted to stay with the cream, I don't think they would even make a cream that has more (i.e. 300 to 400 mg of TEST) nor would this clinic give it to me anyway...
You just use more an extra squirt not a higher concentration

4)As far as HGH or Peptides, I guess I would have to go to a different clinic. I checked Peptides on Amazon, but they all look like "natural" peptides with collagen and just more vitamins in the mix?
Just stick with test for a while you dont need to make this overly complicated

5) I do know of (casual acquaintance) a local national competitor bber who also is a trainer, who i'm sure I could get said products from, because of course if he competes in national shows you know he's on the special supplement program!..
Its a lot cheaper to just buy a bottle of test than paying clinics

6) it will be interesting with my next appointment at this clinic if my TEST doesn't reach any much higher level, would they give me a higher does of the cream (I wonder if their 100 mg of test cream is standard for every man that has low test) or yes, go to the higher level of TEST with injections... Will see... Okay, sorry i'm rambling...

They would just tell you to use more of the same cream rub it on your balls twice a day instead of once two squirts instead of 1 its not that complicated

[joswift]

Just saying the guy wants to be 215lbs and below 10% bodyfat. I am the only one responding who fits that description. 100mg of ball cream is not going to do it.

Real show weight is 180lb for you

Dismissed Brian...

[Van_Bilderass]

Tom, the "100mg" of test doesn't say much about how high your levels get, it depends on how much of it penetrates through the skin. Injectables are more reliable and for example "100mg" says something about how much you're actually getting in you. You might only get say 7mg of test daily from the cream, it depends. Most people on TRT do the shots at home.

The peptides I'm talking about go by names such as Sermorelin, Ipamorelin and so on. If you google those terms + HRT you're immediately shown a ton of clinics. They are also easy to purchase without ever consulting any doctor, but then you are playing doctor yourself.

[bhank]

Real show weight is 180lb for you

Dismissed Brian...

Well I won my last show 3 months ago at 215lbs on stage so there is that

[joswift]

Well I won my last show 3 months ago at 215lbs so there is that

Yep, 35lb overweight

Jason Genova would have given you a run for 1st place

he destroys you on legs