Just had Labs done being OFF for 5 weeks:

[joswift]

I don’t have to come off. I choose to. A month isn’t shit.

- Block!

4 weeks isnt even Off

Your body is still benefitting from what you took

Take 6 months off, then you can say you are off.

[Rusty Trombone]

Wait at least 4 months before you draw bloods guys or you will be disappointed.

[Van_Bilderass]

doesn't deca cause ED though?

I mean what is the point of having this adonis physique if your dick is a wet noodle....

I began experience ED from dieting too hard being natty at older age(late 30's). Fcking sucked donkey balls. No way I want that again.

A great part of why doing this in the first place is to land a hot chick that you want to be able to fuck hard and long. I mean I don't know about you guys but I want to be able to cum in my girls pussy(or mouth) atleast two times with a rock hard cock pretty much every day with some exceptions.

Interesting that you took the plunge after so long.

These HRT places write nandrolone for joint benefits only because everyone is beat up especially when older. Not too many sides from such a low dose.

Proviron is what you want if you want more libido on a low dose cycle. Little if any sides so nothing to worry about. Of course the Cialis is the cherry on top.

Yeah... I thought TRT was a comitment and that you don't come off at all. Since your own balls wont produce any test. So that makes me think that is a bad advice but what do I know.

Maybe lower to 120 mg or so?? a couple of months if you want to get healthier markers

Of course you're totally right. But there are some weird opinions out there

[Block]

4 weeks isnt even Off

Your body is still benefitting from what you took

Take 6 months off, then you can say you are off.

1. CYP doesn’t linger around that long.
2. I’m crazy but not that crazy.


- Block!

[deadz]

Off....LOL no drug no BB.

[bigkid]

Block, I thought you used to take 6 months on and 6 months off?  I swear I remember you saying that when you go off, you loosen up your diet also.  I based my own protocol off that!

[Block]

Proviron is great for libido so is PT141 and I agree Cialis is the cherry on top. I appreciate the advice and criticism of how I approach my modified TRT that’s just what I do I like taking 4-6 weeks off here and there just because. It’s why I never go over 300mg a week total and I’m still bigger stronger and look more 3D than, well… almost all of you. Crazy, I know. On punk ass 300mg. Ain’t that something?


- Block!

[Block]

Block, I thought you used to take 6 on and 6 off?  I swear I remember you saying that when you go off, you loosen up your diet also.  I based my own protocol off that!

Yes!  So. That was when I was on full blown cycles to compete I always felt as long as you were ON is how long you stay OFF.  6 and 6 was just a base number used as an example.

When I’m ON even on my modified TRT I try to be as clean as possible; Carbs moderate. Little to no junk little eating out little splurges limited booze.
When I take time OFF correct I loosen up and live a little. Chill.  So that 4-6 weeks off doesn’t feel long. It’s just a little vacation for me. Few drinks here and there I’ll hit a drive through. Buy some junk food. Make it fun.  Good memory. Wow.

Know what’s funny I haven’t been on this board in years and I was disappointed not to see a thread posted about how tall Steve Reeves was.


- Block!

[Mayday]

Ol’ Block is approaching 46 years on this Earth realm and is now on TRT.  My personal medical practitoner encourages me to come OFF for a month every now and then to give my body a break heal up a little and to donate blood to rid the iron storages from my hemoglobin.

This is from being totally OFF of testosterone and low dose nandrolone for 5 weeks.

 - Block!

Hey Block, so your blood showed very high iron levels?

I came off for 5 weeks, did a blood test and my iron levels were super high. I’m thinking I should have stayed on as the concentration of iron would have been lower with additional blood?

Does giving Blood solve the iron issue?

[Block]

Hey Block, so your blood showed very high iron levels?

I came off for 5 weeks, did a blood test and my iron levels were super high. I’m thinking I should have stayed on as the concentration of iron would have been lower with additional blood?

Does giving Blood solve the iron issue?

Yes.  It does. It’s the best way to empty out additional iron storage making the blood less tacky making it a little easier for the heart to pump blood.

At that point when I had labs done I haven't donated blood in a while. I try to every other month if I could keeping my hemoglobin around 13.5 - 15.0 .


- Block!

[IroNat]

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Know what’s funny I haven’t been on this board in years and I was disappointed not to see a thread posted about how tall Steve Reeves was.


- Block!

Bhanky is the new Reeves and he is 5'10.75".

[MAXX]

Interesting that you took the plunge after so long.

These HRT places write nandrolone for joint benefits only because everyone is beat up especially when older. Not too many sides from such a low dose.

Proviron is what you want if you want more libido on a low dose cycle. Little if any sides so nothing to worry about. Of course the Cialis is the cherry on top.

Well in my case it may be strange that i went on at later age, because of having this interest in bodybuilding my adult life. But in general, outsider the bodybuilding world going on trt after close to or 40 is more normal.

Anyways, if say i went on in my early 20's Im pretty sure I would have done alot higher dosages than trt, because i probably would want to compete and so on. Then I would have had close to two decades of gear a use by now, and likely have some health issues from that.
Now Im too old and too many injuries to compete so i have no desire to "get huge" and do any high dosages.

Im thinking test trt dosages and sometimes add abit of anavar will be more than enough. I am geting a great response from the little anavar that I take now. Alot of my genetically strong muscles swelled up.

[Humble Narcissist]

Off....LOL no drug no BB.

Yep, UP THE DOSE is the only way.

[honest]

Nandrolone is not TRT.

[Block]

Nandrolone is not TRT.

Of course not I add it in on my own for the anti inflammatory benefits but only about 12 weeks at a time with about 4 months of not adding it in.

100mg is perfect. No need for Advil I can move easily and still do weighted dips with a plate strapped to me for 20.

- Block!

[Block]

Well in my case it may be strange that i went on at later age, because of having this interest in bodybuilding my adult life. But in general, outsider the bodybuilding world going on trt after close to or 40 is more normal.

Anyways, if say i went on in my early 20's Im pretty sure I would have done alot higher dosages than trt, because i probably would want to compete and so on. Then I would have had close to two decades of gear a use by now, and likely have some health issues from that.
Now Im too old and too many injuries to compete so i have no desire to "get huge" and do any high dosages.

Im thinking test trt dosages and sometimes add abit of anavar will be more than enough. I am geting a great response from the little anavar that I take now. Alot of my genetically strong muscles swelled up.

That’s right. Exactly. Again - I don’t have to take a little time off but I choose to I still believe there’s something to be said about coming down a little healing up a bit and giving your body a break from pinning. I use 27’s these days and mostly put it in my arms or shoulders but still. This whole blasting and cruising thing is for the birds. Running up to a gram a week is a joke. Less is more. Use the very minimal amount to get the desired effect.
Drugs are the same to me. I also get prescribed modafinil because of shift work and I’ll even not use that for a month just to stay sensitive to it so I never need more than 50mg of it.

Don’t drink coffee or have energy drinks or pre workout for a month then have it again notice how hard and smooth it hits you.
Don’t drink booze for a month and notice how one drink makes you tipsy again.



- Block!

[MAXX]

That’s right. Exactly. Again - I don’t have to take a little time off but I choose to I still believe there’s something to be said about coming down a little healing up a bit and giving your body a break from pinning. I use 27’s these days and mostly put it in my arms or shoulders but still. This whole blasting and cruising thing is for the birds. Running up to a gram a week is a joke. Less is more. Use the very minimal amount to get the desired effect.
Drugs are the same to me. I also get prescribed modafinil because of shift work and I’ll even not use that for a month just to stay sensitive to it so I never need more than 50mg of it.

Don’t drink coffee or have energy drinks or pre workout for a month then have it again notice how hard and smooth it hits you.
Don’t drink booze for a month and notice how one drink makes you tipsy again.



- Block!

Maybe for the receptors... and from giving kidneys or what not a rest.

Yeah my receptors are completly fresh for this stuff so 250mg test and 20 mg anavar it like a shock for my body and Im swelling up. Bodybuilders calls this female doses.

btw I hate needles so I use 30gauge insulin needles. backload with 17 so it goes in a minute anyways. The pin is so small it's like a mosquito bite and I dont even feel it going in. I dont even think a pin that small will cause any scar tissue at all since it wont tear fibers apart

[Titus Pullo]

Whoa...Blockhead?!

Where ya been, man?  We never made formal acquaintance here (that business at Gold's, in the shitter standing in paper bags, doesn't count) but I lurked here when you were active years ago.  You were a funny guy 😉

[Van_Bilderass]

Well in my case it may be strange that i went on at later age, because of having this interest in bodybuilding my adult life. But in general, outsider the bodybuilding world going on trt after close to or 40 is more normal.

Anyways, if say i went on in my early 20's Im pretty sure I would have done alot higher dosages than trt, because i probably would want to compete and so on. Then I would have had close to two decades of gear a use by now, and likely have some health issues from that.
Now Im too old and too many injuries to compete so i have no desire to "get huge" and do any high dosages.

Im thinking test trt dosages and sometimes add abit of anavar will be more than enough. I am geting a great response from the little anavar that I take now. Alot of my genetically strong muscles swelled up.

I think that's a great age to be taking ones first "cycle" actually. Entering middle age with sense that you are past your best years. Then actually starting to get stronger when you're supposed to get weaker. Sounds great. Physical strength = mental strength, even if it's from pharmaceuticals.

[Block]

Whoa...Blockhead?!

Where ya been, man?  We never made formal acquaintance here (that business at Gold's, in the shitter standing in paper bags, doesn't count) but I lurked here when you were active years ago.  You were a funny guy 😉

Haha. The Legend Lives.  Still sifting through the detritus, reading the terrain and hunting my prey in Chicago. It’s good to be remembered. Makes me proud.

- Block!

[Block]

I think that's a great age to be taking ones first "cycle" actually. Entering middle age with sense that you are past your best years. Then actually starting to get stronger when you're supposed to get weaker. Sounds great. Physical strength = mental strength, even if it's from pharmaceuticals.

Good to see you, Van Bilderass The Wise.

It’s so true I'm way stronger now than I was 10 years ago. These days I hammer curl the 75’s for reps and use the 120’s for seated dumbbell presses for a clean 10. I’m also still injury free after all this time.

- Block!

[Van_Bilderass]

Good to see you, Van Bilderass The Wise.

It’s so true I'm way stronger now than I was 10 years ago. These days I hammer curl the 75’s for reps and use the 120’s for seated dumbbell presses for a clean 10. I’m also still injury free after all this time.

- Block!

Time flies. We are all old men now.

Thing are good if the weights still move 

[MAXX]

I think that's a great age to be taking ones first "cycle" actually. Entering middle age with sense that you are past your best years. Then actually starting to get stronger when you're supposed to get weaker. Sounds great. Physical strength = mental strength, even if it's from pharmaceuticals.

yeah I didn't go on test for bodybuilding purpose like said anyways but for mental well being. Because I have been pretty low and depressed last few years and I do believe it is down to mostly hormonal i.e. low test. It shows on my weights lifted aswell. Because I used to be able to do 140kg bench for a few reps, and even though pushing training hard and eating perfect now for a couple of years I cant get past 120..

so when I read up more on it and watched many vids on TRT which pointed my to videos from bodybuilders and what not I thought why not add some anavar. If I look better that will also result in feeling better. Just hoping that I get no hairloss. But if I do whatever most guys lose it in their 40's anyways. The low dosages anavar doesn't seem to cause much sideeffects though.

one issue though that I read there's alot of fake anavar. So maybe I'm taking dbols right now lol... should probably do the roidtest thing to know if the brand I bought could be a go-to.

[Van_Bilderass]

MAXX whatever you do don't max out on benches now that you're going to be signicantly stronger. Probably forego flat bench altogether. Just my opinion. 

Anavar is well tolerated, maybe some acid reflux. I'm also skeptical of authenticity although I know there's plenty of real product. Choose a lab that has good reviews for the rest of their products like tren which can't be "faked" due to the side effect profile. Historically Anavar has been substituted with Winstrol since the two are similar.

[MAXX]

MAXX whatever you do don't max out on benches now that you're going to be signicantly stronger. Probably forego flat bench altogether. Just my opinion. 

Anavar is well tolerated, maybe some acid reflux. I'm also skeptical of authenticity although I know there's plenty of real product. Choose a lab that has good reviews for the rest of their products like tren which can't be "faked" due to the side effect profile. Historically Anavar has been substituted with Winstrol since the two are similar.

yes I am careful because I know the tendons dont adapt as fast as the musclefibers. I'll just increase the reps on the same weights I struggled on before right now.

I will see what I'll do about the anavar, I really wanted to keep it to anavar because this was my plan to minimize side effects. If I can't find any real I'll just stay with 250mg test a week and nothing else.

edit: oh also I take the anavar sublingual, so that it trickles slowly and some are taken in by the skin instead of passing the liver. I have not noticed any nausea or acid reflux at all but my dosage is small compared to most male dosages. Maybe that starts happening when you chew down 50+mg a day