Have you even just consistently did something for half a year or more?
The best I did was maybe 3 months no change
But I have been keeping total mgs within a small range
Broderick chavez says you can run 4-7 grams.per.kilo safely and once you go past 10 grams per kilo you most likely have issues
4-7 grams for me is 300-500 weekly which is about the range I stay in
As I said in another thread I'm convinced these guys are taking way too much gear
Big Paul is on 3 grams total and he will most likely weigh 230 on stage at 6'2 I'm pretty sure he could do that I n 1 gram total especially since he has been that size before
Vigorous Steve supposedly hit 220 using 150 test 70 var and 25 tren so about 250 mgs total at a fairly low body fat at 5'9 but he was 265 at one point running 2.5 grams of test solo