Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?

[dj181]

Zane at his best when lighter

Yep he was much better lighter

200 was too much for his frame

Mid-180's was his sweet spot

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't think so. Ofcourse oil freaks like Bostin Loyd claimed that because it would make them feel better about themselves but no not true.

They all use oil, unfortunate but true. Okay, you may find one or two who look like there's nothing but overall it's "everyone."
The most common is the delts. I would say on average roughly a quarter of the delt is from scar tissie/oil and no one wants to give that up. Almost without fail when you look at close-ups of a pro pumping up backstage or training you can see it. If not in a pics then in movies.
Like you said, it's ugly and as soon as I see it it detracts, but many can't see it and many don't even care. Blacks always do the calves. Most everyone does the arms at least to some extent but the delts is almost 100%

[MAXX]

They all use oil, unfortunate but true. Okay, you may find one or two who look like there's nothing but overall it's "everyone."
The most common is the delts. I would say on average roughly a quarter of the delt is from scar tissie/oil and no one wants to give that up. Almost without fail when you look at close-ups of a pro pumping up backstage or training you can see it. If not in a pics then in movies.
Like you said, it's ugly and as soon as I see it it detracts, but many can't see it and many don't even care. Blacks always do the calves. Most everyone does the arms at least to some extent but the delts is almost 100%

you mean carrier oils from injecting a ton of gear or actual synthol?  because synthol stays in the muscle, doesn't dissapitate(it's meant to stay ofc)and causes all kinds of problems in the long run. There are studies about this. Necrosis of healthy tissue and what not.

But I mean if they Inject like 20+CC of gear in the delts that is alot of oil and will have a notable local swelling.

But yes I see some suspect side delts most notable last Olympia Hadis. Some others too but not as obvious.

[Fortress]

Fact is, all top bodybuilding competitors stress their organs to a suicidal degree.

They treat their innards like throwaway garbage, but then, when it’s time to pay the piper, it’s all go-fund-mes and send thoughts and prayers.

The endeavour is without question insane.

[joswift]

you mean carrier oils from injecting a ton of gear or actual synthol?  because synthol stays in the muscle, doesn't dissapitate(it's meant to stay ofc)and causes all kinds of problems in the long run. There are studies about this. Necrosis of healthy tissue and what not.

But I mean if they Inject like 20+CC of gear in the delts that is alot of oil and will have a notable local swelling.

But yes I see some suspect side delts most notable last Olympia Hadis. Some others too but not as obvious.

If that were true it wouldnt destroy your kidneys

[Van_Bilderass]

you mean carrier oils from injecting a ton of gear or actual synthol?  because synthol stays in the muscle, doesn't dissapitate(it's meant to stay ofc)and causes all kinds of problems in the long run. There are studies about this. Necrosis of healthy tissue and what not.

But I mean if they Inject like 20+CC of gear in the delts that is alot of oil and will have a notable local swelling.

But yes I see some suspect side delts most notable last Olympia Hadis. Some others too but not as obvious.

There is no evidence that the oil (mct) doesn't dissipate. In fact many UG gear labs use MCT for their steroids because it's thin and supposedly easily dissipates. There are some ingredients in some of these oils to make it stay a little long, silica or collagen etc.

What I'm fairly positive about is that these site enhancement oils do is cause the muscle to produce massive amounts of scar tissue. That's the "permanent" part you see, although some of the size goes away once you stop. The sellers used to claim that once you stretched the facia with the oil the "empty" space would then fill up with real muscle, but most will now discount this theory.

Another factor to consider is how much oil you need to inject to create the Synthol effect. There are these plans on how to go about it on professionalmuscle. At some point you may be injecting like 9ml in biceps only per day, if I'm not mistaken (don't quote me on that) but my point is that you don't get these effects by mistake, it's hard work lol and most give up. Some don't get any effects regardless.
One bb by the name of Dusty Hanshaw claims he was able to create a lot of scar tissue in his triceps with Winstrol but that it didn't workfor his delts. Winstrol of course is a water based suspension, I think the crystals can cause some damage and the muscle responds with scar tissue. A heavyweight bb may use 20ml of more of gear per week but that's not enough to grow you arms and delts as much as these guys do, but sure, it may cause some "size" (damage) over the long term and everyone site injects, but for the pros it's mostly muscles like the lats, apart from the common ones.

So IMO almost all use and have used site enhancement oils in their delts in particular, because today you need delts where the rear delts can be seen from the front lol.

I have to comment on what joswift said, I haven't seen evidence nor heard of a possible mechanism whereby the kidneys could be damaged by medium chain triglycerides. If it was true you could damage your kidneys eating coconut oil.

What do you think about the "scar tissue hypothesis"?

Then there are the more temporary enhancements for shows:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8X7_3wuf_l/?igsh=MWJpMzdkZnpiYjZ0dg==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8aXLWhSPVX/?igsh=MWhsMHNldmZha3VtbQ==

[joswift]

There is no evidence that the oil (mct) doesn't dissipate. In fact many UG gear labs use MCT for their steroids because it's thin and supposedly easily dissipates. There are some ingredients in some of these oils to make it stay a little long, silica or collagen etc.

What I'm fairly positive about is that these site enhancement oils do is cause the muscle to produce massive amounts of scar tissue. That's the "permanent" part you see, although some of the size goes away once you stop. The sellers used to claim that once you stretched the facia with the oil the "empty" space would then fill up with real muscle, but most will now discount this theory.

Another factor to consider is how much oil you need to inject to create the Synthol effect. There are these plans on how to go about it on professionalmuscle. At some point you may be injecting like 9ml in biceps only per day, if I'm not mistaken (don't quote me on that) but my point is that you don't get these effects by mistake, it's hard work lol and most give up. Some don't get any effects regardless.
One bb by the name of Dusty Hanshaw claims he was able to create a lot of scar tissue in his triceps with Winstrol but that it didn't workfor his delts. Winstrol of course is a water based suspension, I think the crystals can cause some damage and the muscle responds with scar tissue. A heavyweight bb may use 20ml of more of gear per week but that's not enough to grow you arms and delts as much as these guys do, but sure, it may cause some "size" (damage) over the long term and everyone site injects, but for the pros it's mostly muscles like the lats, apart from the common ones.

So IMO almost all use and have used site enhancement oils in their delts in particular, because today you need delts where the rear delts can be seen from the front lol.

I have to comment on what joswift said, I haven't seen evidence nor heard of a possible mechanism whereby the kidneys could be damaged by medium chain triglycerides. If it was true you could damage your kidneys eating coconut oil.

What do you think about the "scar tissue hypothesis"?

Then there are the more temporary enhancements for shows:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8X7_3wuf_l/?igsh=MWJpMzdkZnpiYjZ0dg==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8aXLWhSPVX/?igsh=MWhsMHNldmZha3VtbQ==

do you think there may be a difference in eating something or injecting it on how the kidneys react to it?

Coconut oil goes through your digestive system before it gets into your blood stream

[Marty Champions]

I really doubt he has bad kidneys , likely spinal inflamation

[joswift]

I really doubt he has bad kidneys , likely spinal inflamation

Thanks Doc...

[Van_Bilderass]

do you think there may be a difference in eating something or injecting it on how the kidneys react to it?

Coconut oil goes through your digestive system before it gets into your blood stream

I mean there could be, but I haven't seen a mechanism of how it could be toxic. I think instinctively there shouldn't be as it's not converted in the digestion process to something more benign, assuming something about it was toxic. There hasn't ever been a suggestion that any of the other carrier oils are toxic either, not that I've seen. Some the benzyl alcohol in all l injected steroids and Synthol is toxic, which it surely is but I don't know of it's a concern at such low doses, never seen any mention of it in the literature except speculation by forum posters.

I know, overly long posts by me over something so trivial 

[irishdave]

What everyone is forgetting is bb’ing is not an exact science, nothing beats listening to your body. The old adage “you are your own best doctor” springs to mind. However this doesn’t mean anything to most people as most seem to have no intuition (like common sense isn’t common) and will do or take whatever doctor says and don’t listen to their own body. Listen to your body’s whispers or you will be forced to hear it’s screams

Yoga and breathing diaphragmatically teaches you mind muscle connection

[MAXX]

another one that needs kidneys

I remember when he was up-and-coming, he looked great with his arms and aestetics. Would be perfect for classic physique division today.

[Van_Bilderass]

McGrath was born with only one kidney and he fucked up the other one

[MAXX]

Really?... One kidney... Definately chose the wrong sport then

[bhank]

They all use oil, unfortunate but true. Okay, you may find one or two who look like there's nothing but overall it's "everyone."
The most common is the delts. I would say on average roughly a quarter of the delt is from scar tissie/oil and no one wants to give that up. Almost without fail when you look at close-ups of a pro pumping up backstage or training you can see it. If not in a pics then in movies.
Like you said, it's ugly and as soon as I see it it detracts, but many can't see it and many don't even care. Blacks always do the calves. Most everyone does the arms at least to some extent but the delts is almost 100%

You couldn't pay me to put that shit in my delts or arms

[bhank]

Fact is, all top bodybuilding competitors stress their organs to a suicidal degree.

They treat their innards like throwaway garbage, but then, when it’s time to pay the piper, it’s all go-fund-mes and send thoughts and prayers.

The endeavour is without question insane.

Lee Haney is healthy as can be Dorian seems to be very healthy as well other than back problems we have not heard of Ronnie having any issues either hell Arnold is still alive and in shape

[bhank]

What everyone is forgetting is bb’ing is not an exact science, nothing beats listening to your body. The old adage “you are your own best doctor” springs to mind. However this doesn’t mean anything to most people as most seem to have no intuition (like common sense isn’t common) and will do or take whatever doctor says and don’t listen to their own body. Listen to your body’s whispers or you will be forced to hear it’s screams

Yoga and breathing diaphragmatically teaches you mind muscle connection

I taught my 4 year old diaphragmatic breathing and breath holds this weekend for diving in the pool he actually got almost instantly better at it. It not a bad idea before a big set heavy either or a PR attempt

[joswift]

I taught my 4 year old diaphragmatic breathing and breath holds this weekend for diving in the pool he actually got almost instantly better at it. It not a bad idea before a big set heavy either or a PR attempt

lol at big heavy set..
chest workout
1 30 reps bench
1 x 20 reps bench

[rocket]

You couldn't pay me to put that shit in my delts or arms

No point - you're already at the top of the game

[joswift]

You couldn't pay me to put that shit in my delts or arms

semantics, you already did it for free

[wes]

What everyone is forgetting is bb’ing is not an exact science, nothing beats listening to your body. The old adage “you are your own best doctor” springs to mind. However this doesn’t mean anything to most people as most seem to have no intuition (like common sense isn’t common) and will do or take whatever doctor says and don’t listen to their own body. Listen to your body’s whispers or you will be forced to hear it’s screams

Yoga and breathing diaphragmatically teaches you mind muscle connection

Good post !!

[GymnJuice]

Lee Haney is healthy as can be Dorian seems to be very healthy as well other than back problems we have not heard of Ronnie having any issues either hell Arnold is still alive and in shape

Saying Ronnie has "back problems" is like saying your hair is thinning.

[Taffin]

Saying Ronnie has "back problems" is like saying your hair is thinning.

[bhank]

lol at big heavy set..
chest workout
1 30 reps bench
1 x 20 reps bench

You have admitted you don't even bench press meanwhile everyone saw me press 315lbs earlier this year despite a torn pec so how the fuck are you going to talk to me about bench pressing?

[bhank]

semantics, you already did it for free

Nope not a drop Hater