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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2024, 09:32:14 AM »
Go away you idiot you’re an expert on everything but are clueless. Have you used either? They compliment each other and cbd is excellent on its own if high quality but thc gives it the kick

You think you’re a genius but you try waaayyyy too hard

Look Dave, I will most likely regret this post but your post gave me pause. Funny how I've had the phrase "Don't Try" under my avatar for decades it seems. Just tell me what it is exactly that irritates you because if you look at most of my posts I try very hard not to come across as lecturing or being certain. Look at the post that irritated you, how I'm almost apologising for my opinion, there's always question marks and "maybes" and "seems" and so on, it's almost too much. I feel really stupid most of the time and I know my IQ is very average. I just happen to be interested in some bodybuilding related trivia.

But I'm missing something, I don't understand how I'm coming across, because some were also pissed at my style on another forum. One thing I know, my posts are too long and there is just too much info dropping.

Probably a regrettable post  :-X

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2024, 09:52:31 AM »
Look Dave, I will most likely regret this post but your post gave me pause. Funny how I've had the phrase "Don't Try" under my avatar for decades it seems. Just tell me what it is exactly that irritates you because if you look at most of my posts I try very hard not to come across as lecturing or being certain. Look at the post that irritated you, how I'm almost apologising for my opinion, there's always question marks and "maybes" and "seems" and so on, it's almost too much. I feel really stupid most of the time and I know my IQ is very average. I just happen to be interested in some bodybuilding related trivia.

But I'm missing something, I don't understand how I'm coming across, because some were also pissed at my style on another forum. One thing I know, my posts are too long and there is just too much info dropping.

Probably a regrettable post  :-X

Your heart is in the right place but unless I have actual experience with a drug I don’t start talking about it like a scientist who has no hands on experience.
That idiot Leo shortevity comes to mind. Armchair expert all theory based and not in any way impressive in his own right.

Ever since Covid I doubt even the basics I was taught in university on certain things. Even diet and some aspects have been thrown into disrepute. I just don’t like bullshitters I’m as straight as you’ll ever come across. My apologies if you took it to heart but don’t knock CBD until you’ve actually used it

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2024, 11:54:09 AM »
Dave have you got a link to the one your mum uses please

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2024, 12:58:35 PM »
Dave have you got a link to the one your mum uses please

Yes bro it’s an expensive one I’m going to have to source a cheaper one in bulk because I’m using it too now a lot

https://www.cibdol.com/cbd-capsules

We use 10% currently it’s 50 their site I pay 60-70 locally I’m sure you can get as good quality for cheaper if you research

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2024, 04:06:11 PM »
Thanks for that,  what symptoms exactly does it help her with and to what percentage do you think it noticeablyhelps?
Yes bro it’s an expensive one I’m going to have to source a cheaper one in bulk because I’m using it too now a lot

https://www.cibdol.com/cbd-capsules

We use 10% currently it’s 50 their site I pay 60-70 locally I’m sure you can get as good quality for cheaper if you research

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2024, 07:51:16 PM »
Look Dave, I will most likely regret this post but your post gave me pause. Funny how I've had the phrase "Don't Try" under my avatar for decades it seems. Just tell me what it is exactly that irritates you because if you look at most of my posts I try very hard not to come across as lecturing or being certain. Look at the post that irritated you, how I'm almost apologising for my opinion, there's always question marks and "maybes" and "seems" and so on, it's almost too much. I feel really stupid most of the time and I know my IQ is very average. I just happen to be interested in some bodybuilding related trivia.

But I'm missing something, I don't understand how I'm coming across, because some were also pissed at my style on another forum. One thing I know, my posts are too long and there is just too much info dropping.

Probably a regrettable post  :-X

I've worked with scientists and engineers my entire career.

You come across as a "know it all" because you spend a lot of time researching things and doing trials on things in order to self-educate yourself because you find great value in knowledge and self-experimentation. I'm in the same boat yet lack the time or give-a-fuck to constantly post my responses on here anymore. ;D
 
I've delt with people like you (not a bad thing) my entire career, and i get negative feedback about this form of expression from people who are either uneducated or lack a sense of depth to your point of view. Mostly from people who react based on emotion and not logic/reason like you do.

Your posts resemble the emails i get from some of the people i deal with day to day, who are considered experts in their field due to continuous research and experimentation.

Take this as you will, my good man.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2024, 08:03:59 PM »
I'm not positive, but I think the CBD craze was a bit of a scam maybe? As BigRo and others said, the THC in itself is medicinal, probably responsible for most of the medicinal benefits of the plant I think. It's just that some think getting high is immoral so they push these inferior and most of the time synthetic CBD products. I've said to people that getting high or euphoric can be beneficial and therapeutic in itself and they just say, "you only say that because YOU want to get high." Well of course! But if you think about it, to me it's obvious how euphoria, especially the mild euphoria of weed, can be very therapeutic and it doesn't have to be bad or immoral.
My understanding is that thc helps with sleep and pain relief. THC has the stigma because it will fuck with your head and cause problems, if you're dosing hard enough to call it therapeutic.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2024, 09:08:25 PM »
I like Van Bilderass. His knowledge of chemistry is  superficial but he does a lot of reading and that is the key to understanding. I ill be the first to admit science is not a walk in the park.

For the record I spent 8 years in college studying chemistry and currently work in pharma. I have to constantly refresh my knowledge to maintain my skills.

Most of science is in the details and things aren't often as simple as they appear.

 Case in point - I currently work on a class of substances called ellagitannins- and they promise to be one of the most powerful biochemical substances ever discovered. But how they work is extremely subtle and completely dependent on many factors. So you might read about them and try to duplicate the results of one study in a clinical trial only to find out that the base material wasn't kept at the optimum conditions and autoxidized before it was used. Such a minor change can have massive effects on the mode of action.

In the attached image the two molecules circled in red look nearly identical but have wildly different biochemical effects. My job is to figure out why.


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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2024, 12:33:49 AM »

Take this as you will, my good man.

I will definitely consider it. I've had some "aha-moments" recently even IRL wrt how I'm perceived, it's weird when you are already "old." For example, I apparently ask an unusual amount of questions. I know very well my knowledge of chemistry is superficial, but a lot of the time I can see others commentating are the same so I don't have to be shy lol.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #59 on: July 04, 2024, 12:38:28 AM »
Your heart is in the right place but unless I have actual experience with a drug I don’t start talking about it like a scientist who has no hands on experience.
That idiot Leo shortevity comes to mind. Armchair expert all theory based and not in any way impressive in his own right.

Ever since Covid I doubt even the basics I was taught in university on certain things. Even diet and some aspects have been thrown into disrepute. I just don’t like bullshitters I’m as straight as you’ll ever come across. My apologies if you took it to heart but don’t knock CBD until you’ve actually used it

Alright, let's just forget it. With CBD I didn't really notice much at all and was frustrated because many others claimed wonderful benefits. I was looking for effects on sleep, inflammation and so on. The research apparently shows clear effects with CBD so I'm not denying it "works" but I thought there may be a strong placebo component.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2024, 12:48:01 AM »
My understanding is that thc helps with sleep and pain relief. THC has the stigma because it will fuck with your head and cause problems, if you're dosing hard enough to call it therapeutic.

Yes, but I'm thinking the benefits are tied to the high, the high isn't a side effect, you probably want it. Know what I mean? People are different and some say when they smoke they feel more like they're supposed to, in their mind. I like the effect, on some level it's minor but on another it seems large, but I definitely feel altered from normal. I don't like it all day long but some do. The good thing with weed I guess is that the whatever euphoria you get is pretty minor which probably prevents it from becoming a huge problem for most.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2024, 10:18:30 AM »
Sorry to hear that man. Best of luck to your dad
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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2024, 06:11:41 PM »
Thanks,  its just shit to think he'll never be a "well" man again, no justice in this world.
Sorry to hear that man. Best of luck to your dad

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2024, 09:35:20 PM »
Like I said before, look into the carnivore diet. You have nothing to lose. I have trouble posting YT videos here while on my phone so here's a couple of screenshots from the videos I recommend you to watch:




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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2024, 10:41:05 PM »
Look Dave, I will most likely regret this post but your post gave me pause. Funny how I've had the phrase "Don't Try" under my avatar for decades it seems. Just tell me what it is exactly that irritates you because if you look at most of my posts I try very hard not to come across as lecturing or being certain. Look at the post that irritated you, how I'm almost apologising for my opinion, there's always question marks and "maybes" and "seems" and so on, it's almost too much. I feel really stupid most of the time and I know my IQ is very average. I just happen to be interested in some bodybuilding related trivia.

But I'm missing something, I don't understand how I'm coming across, because some were also pissed at my style on another forum. One thing I know, my posts are too long and there is just too much info dropping.

Probably a regrettable post  :-X

You have to remember he is drunk most of the time.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #65 on: July 05, 2024, 12:47:07 AM »
I like Van Bilderass. His knowledge of chemistry is  superficial but he does a lot of reading and that is the key to understanding. I ill be the first to admit science is not a walk in the park.

For the record I spent 8 years in college studying chemistry and currently work in pharma. I have to constantly refresh my knowledge to maintain my skills.

Most of science is in the details and things aren't often as simple as they appear.

 Case in point - I currently work on a class of substances called ellagitannins- and they promise to be one of the most powerful biochemical substances ever discovered. But how they work is extremely subtle and completely dependent on many factors. So you might read about them and try to duplicate the results of one study in a clinical trial only to find out that the base material wasn't kept at the optimum conditions and autoxidized before it was used. Such a minor change can have massive effects on the mode of action.

In the attached image the two molecules circled in red look nearly identical but have wildly different biochemical effects. My job is to figure out why.

I'm not a "scientist" though i am my own lab rat at times.

Them 2 molecules don't look at all similar.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #66 on: July 05, 2024, 06:23:01 AM »
I'm not a doctor but I play one on Getbig.


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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2024, 06:31:36 AM »
Alright, let's just forget it. With CBD I didn't really notice much at all and was frustrated because many others claimed wonderful benefits. I was looking for effects on sleep, inflammation and so on. The research apparently shows clear effects with CBD so I'm not denying it "works" but I thought there may be a strong placebo component.

I notice great sleep benefits from CBD. Up to 60-70mg. Makes me too sleepy the next morning though.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #68 on: July 05, 2024, 08:50:47 AM »
I notice great sleep benefits from CBD. Up to 60-70mg. Makes me too sleepy the next morning though.

Alright, I have no reason to doubt you. One or two friends said that yeah they slept well on CBD oil sometimes but they couldn't be sure it was the CBD because the effect isn't forced like with a sleeping pill. I didn't really notice any definite effects from CBD but then again I don't think reg weed does much for my sleep either. It's VERY nice addition though to cap off an evening if I've had a sleeping med earlier like mirtazapine lol. I wish weed took away my dreams like it does for so many because I've been having night terrors almost every night but I'm dreaming as much as ever.

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Re: Dad's been diagnosed with parkinsons
« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2024, 09:09:27 AM »
So after feeling unwell like his head is in a fog my dad finally had a test a couple of months ago and last week his been told its parkinsons.
It took him a year to get an appointment! He's gone from having mild barely noticeable hand shakes at the end of last year to arms and legs shaking more recently.
After battling chronic back pain for 35 years after slipping he now dealt this for retirement.
Anyone have experience with parkinsons? To me the subtle hand shakes to now arms and legs seems pretty quick..?
He's scared of what he'll become and doesn't even want to start the meds because of the nasty sounding side effects.
It's devastating all round,  any help/advice appreciated
I've heard that creatine can help but there's so many brands out there.


Get him on Dihexa asap

https://biolabshop.co.uk/nootropics-for-learning/408-dihexa.html