Author Topic: 21 yr old natty Pro !!  (Read 1670 times)

affeman

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16115
  • The US is the laughingstock of the entire world.
21 yr old natty Pro !!
« on: July 01, 2024, 11:54:02 AM »
Kid's only 21 and natty, not too bad :o

@34:40


IroNat

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 38694
  • Man up and Getbig!
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2024, 12:01:28 PM »
Natty as O'Hernia.

Skeletor

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17201
  • Silence you furry fool!
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2024, 12:03:32 PM »
Dead by 23.

Brenda Steunbeer

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 639
  • Go IDF!
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2024, 12:17:26 PM »
Showing off his striated glutes to other men = mental illness.

Taffin

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17016
  • "From the pucha to the culo..."
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2024, 02:26:10 PM »
If he is natty then his balls must have fallen off on the way to the gym
T

BigRo

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7986
  • "Big Rokrainian"
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2024, 02:30:40 PM »
Not natural come on.

wes

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 71213
  • What Dire Mishap Has Befallen Thee
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2024, 02:31:46 PM »
Far from natural....come on bro...you should know better.

BigRo

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7986
  • "Big Rokrainian"
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2024, 02:32:05 PM »
Showing off his striated glutes to other men = mental illness.

Ok "Brenda"

Grape Ape

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 24587
  • SC è un asino
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2024, 02:51:44 PM »
Far from natural....come on bro...you should know better.

And you should know affeman is a troll account
Y

wes

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 71213
  • What Dire Mishap Has Befallen Thee
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2024, 03:04:15 PM »
And you should know affeman is a troll account
:-[

joswift

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 34895
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2024, 03:28:01 PM »
And you should know affeman is a troll account
Is it Royalty?

falco

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 20837
  • The child is grown, the dream is gone
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2024, 03:33:17 PM »
O'Hearn is more natural than him by about a gram.

AbrahamG

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 19505
  • Affeman Is Numero Uno
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2024, 03:34:29 PM »
Kid's only 21 and natty, not too bad :o

@34:40



Looks great. Hopefully he waits til he hits full muscle maturity before crossing over to the dark side. Kid has great genetics and a very youthful appearance.

Van_Bilderass

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16744
  • "Don't Try"
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2024, 12:41:48 AM »
What I think is interesting is how "many" good young "kids" are rolled out all the time now it seems, and they all look the same. What I think is the reason is that the blueprint is now available to all. Back in the day you had people searching for the secret, doing haphazard "cycles" that didn't amount to much, now it's standardized:

GH from the very start, no waiting around

Insulin from the start

No "cycles." When you get on you stay on, no yo-yoing doing cycles to get healthy between them by going off for the most part. If a stack is hazardous to health, change compounds, don't come off. The exception to this is precontest and then switching to off-season. The prep and compounds can be quite toxic so you need a wash-out period after shows, it's prudent. But you don't get off, you stay on the test and GH, you just lay off the heavy tren and orals

Cycles built around testosterone. Escalate test and anabolic doses as progress continues until you are at a couple grams of T plus a couple grams of anabolics

Hammer tren and orals close to contests to get the standardized finish you need to place and which almost everyone now has. Ripped glutes are a must and almost everyone has them. You can joke around it, saying how gay it is, but it's simply a gauge to see if you are mostly ready and it works great

Train hard using a "bro split" or a "push, pull, legs split." No mystique, no balonie for the most part

Always stay lean off-season. No debating if you should bulk hard and get a little fat or whatever, this is the way to go (can be debated but this is the line of reasoning for most today)

I think this is great in that no one has to search for the secret now, the standardized blueprint is the above. You have a guy with ok-good-great genetics and he has the "pro" physique in short order following the plan

Many oldtimers probably cry about the lack of mystique nowadays and the lack of wildly different training philosophies, it was fun playing around with different things like in the past...

But it is what it is. No secrets.  8)

EDIT: you don't really need a coach, what you need to "know" fits on a piece of paper. What you need is the above with maybe another sheet or two of less important details. Of course you need to learn the exercises and need to learn to cook lol, but that's about it. Every coach nowadays works the above pretty much, not much difference between them.

joswift

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 34895
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2024, 12:45:38 AM »
Juniors are not what they were in the 80 and early 90s


affeman

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16115
  • The US is the laughingstock of the entire world.
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2024, 01:30:19 AM »
Always stay lean off-season. No debating if you should bulk hard and get a little fat or whatever, this is the way to go (can be debated but this is the line of reasoning for most today)

Yeah, that's interesting, you barely see anyone being fat in the Off-Season like those guys back in the day. They all look like they could be on stage in like 6 weeks year-round (probably attributable to Social Media these days)

joswift

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 34895
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2024, 02:30:45 AM »
Yeah, that's interesting, you barely see anyone being fat in the Off-Season like those guys back in the day. They all look like they could be on stage in like 6 weeks year-round (probably attributable to Social Media these days)
Brandon Curry won the Olympia with his legs being 6 weeks out

Sissysquats

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1101
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2024, 02:31:37 AM »
He’s about as natural as the hardware in my knee

beakdoctor

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7765
  • Royalty looks like a colostomy bag.
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2024, 06:30:30 AM »
Yeah, that's interesting, you barely see anyone being fat in the Off-Season like those guys back in the day. They all look like they could be on stage in like 6 weeks year-round (probably attributable to Social Media these days)

Mostly everything that is rotten about people today: inability to think for themselves, lack of consideration for the welfare of others, self-obsession, inability to handle a differing of opinion, inability to accept any kind of responsibility etc... can be traced to social media. These things always existed to some degree but social media enhanced it to the 100th power. Not to mention how governments are misusing it to influence public opinion/increase public panic.

Van_Bilderass

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16744
  • "Don't Try"
Re: 21 yr old natty Pro !!
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2024, 08:35:11 AM »
Yeah, that's interesting, you barely see anyone being fat in the Off-Season like those guys back in the day. They all look like they could be on stage in like 6 weeks year-round (probably attributable to Social Media these days)

I think it makes sense for a bodybuilder in a physiological sense too, it's not just due to having to stay hard all the time for IG. Of course there are some shitfluencers who maybe stay "too hard" and abuse too many drugs for business on social media but staying pretty damn lean is probably smart regardless.

At what point does staying lean become an eating disorder or a mental problem? A guy at the gym is 58, never did any drugs, but diets hard for like 4-5 months pre-summer every year. My training partner says the guy has an eating disorder, "why is he dieting, for what exactly?!" I said my fat ass wishes I had some of that eating disorder lol. I think your physical conditioning says something about your mental state e.g. staying lean signals discipline and other positive things but I guess at some point it may become a disorder... like bhank says dj has an eating disorder. I don't know about that. Maybe a little bit? For health, staying very lean and only eating little is probably good. Especially if you still have energy to lift "heavy" at the gym. Dj probably should pay more attention to his micronutrition if wanting to optimise longevity but I think he knows it very well himself.