Wow! Some de-transformation for John Brown. Not to be negative or whatever but I wonder when I see guys like him if they have the same tough or over confident or agressive personality once they're off peds. I've known several that were jerks but became sort of meek when drug free though I saw one former user get slugged at the gym when he ran his mouth at someone who was actually smaller than him because he wanted to take over the squat rack. I remember thinking that he forgot that he didn't have those muscles that he thought made him look tough. I'm not knocking him or others cause I think it's normal to feel that way when they lose size like that. I know I feel weird whenever I lose size and I'm a life long natural.