GH and water retention

[old_lifter]

im using 2iu's eod of serostim and am getting water retention and gyno like symptoms, im very sensitive to all forms of drugs, along with probably reducing the dose to 1iu eod what can i use to combat these sides? adex and a diuretic?

[38 returns]

try splitting the dose into 2 x eod.. ie 1iu pre bed 1iu upon waking.

[bhank]

im using 2iu's eod of serostim and am getting water retention and gyno like symptoms, im very sensitive to all forms of drugs, along with probably reducing the dose to 1iu eod what can i use to combat these sides? adex and a diuretic?

Your body takes time to adjust. You are lowering your antidiuretic hormone Argine Vasopressin. Reduce your sodium intake, increase your water and your body will adjust. If you are still noticing too much bloating stop your dosage completely for 1-2 days.  But at that dosage you should adjust no problem give it a week or two

[tatoo]

im using 2iu's eod of serostim and am getting water retention and gyno like symptoms, im very sensitive to all forms of drugs, along with probably reducing the dose to 1iu eod what can i use to combat these sides? adex and a diuretic?

anything else besides the gh? test, ect.

[old_lifter]

yes 1/2 of a cc of sust and 1/2 of a cc mast prop every 3 days

[tatoo]

yes 1/2 of a cc of sust and 1/2 of a cc mast prop every 3 days

anti e would help

[old_lifter]

ok adex seems to work ok for me, how often?
ive tried letro but it seems to crash my system and i get sick

[tatoo]

ok adex seems to work ok for me, how often?
ive tried letro but it seems to crash my system and i get sick

1mg couple times per week imo is a good start...

[old_lifter]

ok thanks guys, appreciate everyone's input

[Van_Bilderass]

I'm not any kind of doctor so take this just as an anonymous bro comment on a forum. If I truly had too much water retention on those paltry dosages I would try Telmisartan. It's not a diuretic outright, it's mostly a BP med but does help control water retention from drugs. It can actually be a good idea to run for any bb even without BP issues, might help mitigate heart hypertrophy, protect the kidneys and so on. I know from experience it may almost completely eliminate edema from PEDs.

"Gyno-like symptoms." I wrote on another thread that many guys imagine themselves having developing gyno. They may go all day squeezing the nipples to check for gyno, of course they'll be sore lol. But let's say they really are sore suddenly, and it can actually be pretty
painful, I'd take an "attack" dose of antiestrogens, e.g. one tab of letrozole and maybe 60 or more milligrams of Nolvadex, and I'd also take at least a triple dose of Masteron as it's a breast cancer drug after all. Just one day of dosing these can make all symptoms disappear, and if it does just repeat if symptoms reappear, no need to take them for weeks and get all the side effects. Nolvadex ran for a longer while can be a double whammy combating gyno since it lowers IGF-1. Because IGF-1 is CENTRAL in gyno development along with the estrogens. But at the same time it's not the best idea to take if running GH for what should be obvious reasons, because taking GH which then releases IGF-1 is the reason it's taken in the first place.

Another pet peeve of mine is the assumption most water retention from roids is through estrogen, which isn't true. They all cause sodium retention and affect mineralcorticoid receptors. If you look at the prescribing info for all steroids they all warn of possible edema, even roids like Halotestin and Winstrol. And paradoxically even the antiestrogens can cause water retention sometimes.

But, basically I would take telmisartan to start and there's a good chance of it solving the "problem." Of course some bodybuilders use milder diuretics like aldactone or hydrochlorothiazide but I myself probably wouldn't go that route before trying the telmisartan or another ARB drug.

But I'm no doctor, all drugs have side effects, even the ones used to mitigate PED sides, so ask your GP lol 

Probably most juicers do not know that GH/IGF-1 affects breast growth.

[joswift]

Your body takes time to adjust. You are lowering your antidiuretic hormone Argine Vasopressin. Reduce your sodium intake, increase your water and your body will adjust. If you are still noticing too much bloating stop your dosage completely for 1-2 days.  But at that dosage you should adjust no problem give it a week or two

Just take a bottle a day you fucking pussy

[Dalnet]

I'm not any kind of doctor so take this just as an anonymous bro comment on a forum. If I truly had too much water retention on those paltry dosages I would try Telmisartan. It's not a diuretic outright, it's mostly a BP med but does help control water retention from drugs. It can actually be a good idea to run for any bb even without BP issues, might help mitigate heart hypertrophy, protect the kidneys and so on. I know from experience it may almost completely eliminate edema from PEDs.

"Gyno-like symptoms." I wrote on another thread that many guys imagine themselves having developing gyno. They may go all day squeezing the nipples to check for gyno, of course they'll be sore lol. But let's say they really are sore suddenly, and it can actually be pretty
painful, I'd take an "attack" dose of antiestrogens, e.g. one tab of letrozole and maybe 60 or more milligrams of Nolvadex, and I'd also take at least a triple dose of Masteron as it's a breast cancer drug after all. Just one day of dosing these can make all symptoms disappear, and if it does just repeat if symptoms reappear, no need to take them for weeks and get all the side effects. Nolvadex ran for a longer while can be a double whammy combating gyno since it lowers IGF-1. Because IGF-1 is CENTRAL in gyno development along with the estrogens. But at the same time it's not the best idea to take if running GH for what should be obvious reasons, because taking GH which then releases IGF-1 is the reason it's taken in the first place.

Another pet peeve of mine is the assumption most water retention from roids is through estrogen, which isn't true. They all cause sodium retention and affect mineralcorticoid receptors. If you look at the prescribing info for all steroids they all warn of possible edema, even roids like Halotestin and Winstrol. And paradoxically even the antiestrogens can cause water retention sometimes.

But, basically I would take telmisartan to start and there's a good chance of it solving the "problem." Of course some bodybuilders use milder diuretics like aldactone or hydrochlorothiazide but I myself probably wouldn't go that route before trying the telmisartan or another ARB drug.

But I'm no doctor, all drugs have side effects, even the ones used to mitigate PED sides, so ask your GP lol 

Probably most juicers do not know that GH/IGF-1 affects breast growth.

Some great input there. Post saved. Thx for the info.

[BigRo]

Your body takes time to adjust. You are lowering your antidiuretic hormone Argine Vasopressin. Reduce your sodium intake, increase your water and your body will adjust. If you are still noticing too much bloating stop your dosage completely for 1-2 days.  But at that dosage you should adjust no problem give it a week or two

How many IU,s do you take per day???

[joswift]

How many IU,s do you take per day???

Its a lot, thats why he wont say

He is maxed out on anything he gan get his hands on
I would wager at least a gram of test probably more

[bhank]

How many IU,s do you take per day???

I take enough. If I give a number everyone will read too much into it. Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT

I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil

[joswift]

I take enough. If I give a number everyone will read too much into it. Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT

I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil

You can tell Brian has been watching Roman Fritz talking about 52 ius a day

And Brian thinks people here dont know about HGH

Fucks sake hes a legend in his own fantasy world

[38 returns]

highest I went up to was 5iu per day

[BB]

Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT

I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil

So a shit ton, just like the TRT Hankins does was 400mg.

Pec money went on trike and GH?

[joswift]

I take enough. If I give a number everyone will read too much into it. Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT

I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil

why would you think using GH is better than increasing test when you think GH doesnt add muscle?

My buddy started on the cream it didn't do much for him so he switched to the injections. 100mg isn't going to do a whole lot regarldess. To give you an idea I cruise around 3-400mg year round with no other anabolics I do take HGH but that is anti aging it's not building any muscle. I am also 215lbs and below 10%.

Just tired of arguing with ignorant people figured I would drop some knowledge. I am no expert but I do think this is a good summary of the health benefits to start. I think this info is more relevant to the average 50 plus year old getbigger than the typical info you see on the subject in the bodybuilding community.

HGH is for anti aging you want to get huge buy some dianabol instead

[Dalnet]

highest I went up to was 5iu per day

Yeah. I tried 4 for a while but my usual is 3iu a shot every 8 hours to keep the half life thingy consistent in blood stream. Haven't took any for a few years due to an accident but getting back into it, probably by New Year. Just steadily rebuilding for now on hardly anything

Not sure why bhanky thinks nobody takes hgh. It's so common now. I'd compare it to cocaine popularity. Everybody seems to be shoving that crap up themselves these days.

[38 returns]

Coke in our city is easier to get dropped off than a takeaway it’s not for me but lots of the lads don’t go out without it

Hgh is fairly common lots of Chinese generics genx are meant to be ok

A lot of the gentrophin pens are copied even in. Turkey for those bringing back souvenirs from holidays

[bhank]

You can tell Brian has been watching Roman Fritz talking about 52 ius a day

And Brian thinks people here dont know about HGH

Fucks sake hes a legend in his own fantasy world

People here don't even know shit about TRT watching stupid youtube videos or reading is not the same as actually having personal experience and knowing.

[bhank]

So a shit ton, just like the TRT Hankins does was 400mg.

Pec money went on trike and GH?

Ok let’s put this to rest with definitive evidence 300mg per fucking week TRT prescribed by a Dr go ahead let dipshit Jeff tell us how 200mg is the legal limit again you people don’t know shit

Is it an old script sure I am not sharing my current Dr info here

[joswift]

People here don't even know shit about TRT watching stupid youtube videos or reading is not the same as actually having personal experience and knowing.

of course everyone on here are all wrong and you are right.
Everyone elses experience of TRT is 125mgs a week yours is 350-400
In your world Tramadol is not an opioid
Em is faithful to you
Spencer is clever
You were in great shape at the Cup dominating the class
You look cool on your trike...

[bhank]

So a shit ton, just like the TRT Hankins does was 400mg.

Pec money went on trike and GH?

I will get the pec fixed in due time don't worry