Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24

[Mayday]

It's not the case here.

Too many accounts of others spotting the shooter and making waves about it within enough time for a competent, pre shooting reaction.

I am personally waiting for the official explanation, but feel it will take weeks.

Witnesses frequently recall their actions of events very different to how it happened.

How many people saw the guy? It seems everyone saw him…..

How many waved their arms And at how many officers did they wave at? How many officers acknowledged said arm waving? How many officers took action of said wages?

How many yelled out gun and too who? How did others react to them yelling out ‘gun’? It seems nobody yelled it or nobody reacted to it.

How many witnesses ran to officers to report the gunman? How did the officers react? Who did the officers then contact?

A witness said he clearly saw the guy lying down on the roof climbing up and had a rifle, he says ‘we’re like hey man there a guy on the roof with a rifle and the Police were like ‘huh, what and running around like they didn’t know what was going on. We’re like he’s right here on the roof, we can see him. I can’t understand why Trump is still on the stage, I’m standing there pointing at him for 2-3 minutes. SS are looking at us’. I’m pointing at the roof standing there like this.  he pointed at him for 3 minutes to Police….   So it went from suggesting they were making vocal contact to in the end pointing and being silent. The conspiracy then says the witness was in on it for taking improper normal reaction which is to yell ‘gun’ and run to alert authorities.

The SS not posting people on roofs, the person who hung the flag, The photographer in the exact position at the right time to take a photo the instant it happened….

The conspiracy says they all need to be in on it. Ultimately conspiracy replaces incompetence and you see those who believe in more conspiracies also begin to have a lack of accepting incompetence of people/groups.

The reality is the witness accounts don’t seem to stack up. When you realise red hat man did nothing other than point, you can understand his incompetence at communicating the threat cascades into a lack of action and confusion by others which in turn makes them incompetent. 

Hence, you begin at incompetence (real world) and it’s on the conspiracy to prove the incompetence was great acting and all part of the plan.

[obsidian]

Witnesses frequently recall their actions of events very different to how it happened.

How many people saw the guy? It seems everyone saw him…..

How many waved their arms And at how many officers did they wave at? How many officers acknowledged said arm waving? How many officers took action of said wages?

How many yelled out gun and too who? How did others react to them yelling out ‘gun’? It seems nobody yelled it or nobody reacted to it.

How many witnesses ran to officers to report the gunman? How did the officers react? Who did the officers then contact?

A witness said he clearly saw the guy lying down on the roof climbing up and had a rifle, he says ‘we’re like hey man there a guy on the roof with a rifle and the Police were like ‘huh, what and running around like they didn’t know what was going on. We’re like he’s right here on the roof, we can see him. I can’t understand why Trump is still on the stage, I’m standing there pointing at him for 2-3 minutes. SS are looking at us’. I’m pointing at the roof standing there like this.  he pointed at him for 3 minutes to Police….   So it went from suggesting they were making vocal contact to in the end pointing and being silent. The conspiracy then says the witness was in on it for taking improper normal reaction which is to yell ‘gun’ and run to alert authorities.

The SS not posting people on roofs, the person who hung the flag, The photographer in the exact position at the right time to take a photo the instant it happened….

The conspiracy says they all need to be in on it. Ultimately conspiracy replaces incompetence and you see those who believe in more conspiracies also begin to have a lack of accepting incompetence of people/groups.

The reality is the witness accounts don’t seem to stack up. When you realise red hat man did nothing other than point, you can understand his incompetence at communicating the threat cascades into a lack of action and confusion by others which in turn makes them incompetent. 

Hence, you begin at incompetence (real world) and it’s on the conspiracy to prove the incompetence was great acting and all part of the plan.

You're a frustrating fuck! You win. There are never any conspiracies, everything is just random or due to incompetence.

I'm being sarcastic. You lose! You're smarter than this. Why don't you use your brain cells instead of letting them idle like that? It's not rocket science.

Have you never heard of compartmentalization dude?! That's how the Manhattan Project happened.

Aren't you curious why they are lying their way through this whole thing?

Why was nobody already on the roof before the shooter climbed on it?

Their answer: "Because the roof was sloped and safety and regulations."

Ok, then why the fuck were they on the other roofs that had even steeper slopes?! Didn't the safety and regulations matter over there by those buildings?

It's really simple. The Deep State likes to swing their dicks and do things out in the open. They have the media and gullible fucks like you that will let them get away with whatever the fuck they want. They can commit any conspiracy and will just yell - "conspiracy theory!" -  after the fact and say anyone that questions it is wearing a tin foil hat.

You realize that your mindset gives them a free pass to do anything right? You'll stick your head in the sand and not question anything ever. According to you the MSM narrative is always the only narrative.

[Irongrip400]

The more I'm seeing videos of the shooting & what the public are saying
It sure starting to look as its more than outstanding incompetence & more like
An inside set up to kill Donald.

Some very serious questions need to be publicly asked & answered.

I’m not sure why Trump isn’t asking these questions on his Truth Social forum. He’s usually good about picking up on stuff like this and talking about it. Any chance it’s all bravado and he’s really shook by this and will keep his mouth shut? Or will he start firing off after the convention?

[illuminati]

I’m not sure why Trump isn’t asking these questions on his Truth Social forum. He’s usually good about picking up on stuff like this and talking about it. Any chance it’s all bravado and he’s really shook by this and will keep his mouth shut? Or will he start firing off after the convention?

I would think he's really shook up & its not fully sunk in he was very nearly dead.

It took a few days to sink in when I was shot at in a drive by shooting - not the thing you
Expect in public life. 

[Van_Bilderass]

It is not at all mundane though.

Depends on how you look at it I guess. But people absolutely don't want it to be a random lonewolf.

What is your best guess now as to what happened here?

I love conspiracy theories, I read them daily on unz.com but most of them are balonie.

[LurkerNoMore]

Watch...

Pay close attention to the woman in the black hat!

https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1812701459995128075

What are we supposed to be looking for?

[Soul Crusher]

What are we supposed to be looking for?

Are you freaking kidding ?   Gin shots are flying right near her  and she just calm and filming

[Dave D]

I don't know what happened but I know we can't accept a boring explanation where, for example, a socially retarded kid has the dumb luck of being able to get on that roof and fire. We want something exciting, a vast conspiracy or divine intervention. I don't know about this case but sometimes the thing is as mundane as it appears.

This could simply be that. This kid somehow picked the one non guarded roof to climb with his ladder and riffle during the day.

If it is this simple the level of incompetence is worrisome. If it was something more sinister, like an inside job the level of incompetence is also worrisome. If it were an inside job they aren’t going to stop until he’s dead.  Let’s hope Trump isn’t in a princess Diana type car crash.

[Dokey111]

This could simply be that. This kid somehow picked the one non guarded roof to climb with his ladder and riffle during the day.

If it is this simple the level of incompetence is worrisome. If it was something more sinister, like an inside job the level of incompetence is also worrisome. If it were an inside job they aren’t going to stop until he’s dead.  Let’s hope Trump isn’t in a princess Diana type car crash.

boy there's gonna be trouble if that happens

[Grape Ape]

Witnesses frequently recall their actions of events very different to how it happened.

How many people saw the guy? It seems everyone saw him…..

How many waved their arms And at how many officers did they wave at? How many officers acknowledged said arm waving? How many officers took action of said wages?

How many yelled out gun and too who? How did others react to them yelling out ‘gun’? It seems nobody yelled it or nobody reacted to it.

How many witnesses ran to officers to report the gunman? How did the officers react? Who did the officers then contact?

A witness said he clearly saw the guy lying down on the roof climbing up and had a rifle, he says ‘we’re like hey man there a guy on the roof with a rifle and the Police were like ‘huh, what and running around like they didn’t know what was going on. We’re like he’s right here on the roof, we can see him. I can’t understand why Trump is still on the stage, I’m standing there pointing at him for 2-3 minutes. SS are looking at us’. I’m pointing at the roof standing there like this.  he pointed at him for 3 minutes to Police….   So it went from suggesting they were making vocal contact to in the end pointing and being silent. The conspiracy then says the witness was in on it for taking improper normal reaction which is to yell ‘gun’ and run to alert authorities.

The SS not posting people on roofs, the person who hung the flag, The photographer in the exact position at the right time to take a photo the instant it happened….

The conspiracy says they all need to be in on it. Ultimately conspiracy replaces incompetence and you see those who believe in more conspiracies also begin to have a lack of accepting incompetence of people/groups.

The reality is the witness accounts don’t seem to stack up. When you realise red hat man did nothing other than point, you can understand his incompetence at communicating the threat cascades into a lack of action and confusion by others which in turn makes them incompetent. 

Hence, you begin at incompetence (real world) and it’s on the conspiracy to prove the incompetence was great acting and all part of the plan.

I am beginning at incompetence for sure.

But there are too many videos, pics, eyewitness stories and unexplained circumstances to accept it until I hear the official story.

[IroNat]

Are you freaking kidding ?   Gin shots are flying right near her  and she just calm and filming

Notice how she looks several times in the direction of the shooter just prior to shots being fired.

[Tapeworm]

I am beginning at incompetence for sure.

But there are too many videos, pics, eyewitness stories and unexplained circumstances to accept it until I hear the official story.

My money's on

"We didn't remove Trump because communications breakdown."

"Restricting access to that building was up to local PD."

"Countersniper team did an amazing job, even tho everyone saw the guy except them."

"Mistakes were made and we're heroes."

If you say something's implausible then you're a flat earther. The end.

[Earl1972]

Are you freaking kidding ?   Gin shots are flying right near her  and she just calm and filming

and she didn't start filming until the shots started

E

[Never1AShow]

Does anyone know any kid in the 15-25 age bracket not glued to their phone and without an obvious social media presence?

[Agnostic007]

The reasonable explanation, the simplest explanation, is usually the correct answer.

Everyone theorizing about this is crazy. My only surprise is that it took this long for someone to try and assassinate him.

All the conspiracy theorists always start from the position of what-they-dont-know. "How was he able..." "why wasn't someone...." why didn't  they..." "where was the..." "How come they didn't...."  and then their lack of knowledge affirms their wildest suspicions. It's confirmation bias: if you think this was an inside job or a fake, they then ask a question that could have a hundred explanations,  not satisfied with any of them it confirms their preconceived notions.

This is by far the best post in this thread. Kudos to you for laying it out in such easy to comprehend terms. Will it matter? Probably not. Very hard to get a message like this to the conspiracy prone audience

[Agnostic007]

The more I'm seeing videos of the shooting & what the public are saying
It sure starting to look as its more than outstanding incompetence & more like
An inside set up to kill Donald.

Some very serious questions need to be publicly asked & answered.

Well said... Nothing gets past you.

[chaos]

Well said... Nothing gets past you.

I see you haven't denounced the attempted assassination or any sort of violence towards people with different political views, instead choosing to continually attack people here that you disagree with politically. Shows what a true scumbag you are.

[Agnostic007]

I see you haven't denounced the attempted assassination or any sort of violence towards people with different political views, instead choosing to continually attack people here that you disagree with politically. Shows what a true scumbag you are.

Ok, since you asked. I will repeat what I said on another forum and in my real life.

This is unacceptable. Any violence towards a political candidate is unamerican. We are NOT a 3rd world country. You can dislike, hate, be disgusted by any candidate, but that is to be resolved at the polls. Any violence is unacceptable and an attack on a presidential candidate from any party is unamerican and disgusting.

Lookling forward to your response. I'm sure it will be equally honorable

[chaos]

Ok, since you asked. I will repeat what I said on another forum and in my real life.

This is unacceptable. Any violence towards a political candidate is unamerican. We are NOT a 3rd world country. You can dislike, hate, be disgusted by any candidate, but that is to be resolved at the polls. Any violence is unacceptable and an attack on a presidential candidate from any party is unamerican and disgusting.

Lookling forward to your response. I'm sure it will be equally honorable

How would you consider your response "honorable"? Fuck me, even that weirdo lefty Lurker denounced the violence almost immediately, as anyone with common sense should regardless of political affiliation.

[Agnostic007]

How would you consider your response "honorable"? Fuck me, even that weirdo lefty Lurker denounced the violence almost immediately, as anyone with common sense should regardless of political affiliation.

Pretty much exactly how I thought you would respond. Definitely consistent

[obsidian]

Does anyone know any kid in the 15-25 age bracket not glued to their phone and without an obvious social media presence?

Would you have a social media presence if you looked like this?! LMFAO!

[illuminati]

Well said... Nothing gets past you.

Whats your take on the debacle ?  An excellent job by security services?

[obsidian]

This is by far the best post in this thread. Kudos to you for laying it out in such easy to comprehend terms. Will it matter? Probably not. Very hard to get a message like this to the conspiracy prone audience

The simplest explanation is it was a conspiracy to assassinate Trump and it was not a lone wolf who just happened to get lucky due to negligence and incompetence. Everything points to that. Secret Service did not secure the roof before Trump arrived. Police and Secret Service were alerted about the perpetrator on the roof even before Trump fucking started his speech on stage! They allowed someone to fire off 8 shots before they took out the so-called "suspect".

[joswift]

boy there's gonna be trouble if that happens

Really?
What do you think is going to happen?

[obsidian]

CNN running with Iran being behind this - lmao!!

https://www.rt.com/news/601185-iran-denies-involvement-trump-attack/

Iran denies involvement in Trump assassination attempt
CNN’s allegations that Tehran was plotting an attack on the Republican “have malicious political motives and objectives,” the Foreign Ministry has said

Citing sources, CNN reported on Tuesday that US authorities had received information on an alleged plot by Tehran to assassinate Trump, prompting the Secret Service to beef up security around the former president.

^^^^^^
LMFAO!!! Some beefed-up security he received. They waited for 26 minutes before engaging with the shooter and by then he had fired off 8 rounds, killed one and wounded Trump and another person.

Top Comment from RT regarding this article:

DJMatakite

What utter garbage!! Meanwhile... for something that IS newsworthy - Just take a LOOK at what some great investigative journalism by GWP has unearthed!!...

The building in Butler, Pennsylvania, where Thomas Matthew Crooks climbed on the roof and fired shots that hit President Trump and several supporters, was sold just four months ago.

American Glass Research (AGR), which is owned by its parent company, AGR International, was acquired by Indicor a diversified industrial solutions company in March of 2024.

In 2022, Indicor announced its formation and brand name. Allegedly, it has affiliations with BlackRock.

The formation of Indicor follows the November 2022 sale of a majority stake in a portfolio of industrial businesses from Roper Technologies, Inc. to funds affiliated with Clayton, Dubilier & Rice (“CD&R”).

The current CEO of Indicor is Doug Wright who was previously deployed with defense contractor RAYTHEON TECHNOLOGIES.

BOOM!!!