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Dave D

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Re: Coach Greg: How They Dope At The 2024 Olympics
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2024, 06:06:00 PM »
I remember seeing just how much faster she was and then learning her boyfriend was an Olympic Powerlifter - that was case closed for me

Oh man, that boy friend man have been her husband and spilt the beans during their divorce or when he got popped on a drug test. I need to review the story. She was an incredible athlete though. Played collegiate basketball at North Carolina in addition to all of her track stuff.

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Re: Coach Greg: How They Dope At The 2024 Olympics
« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2024, 07:03:47 PM »
I remember seeing just how much faster she was and then learning her boyfriend was an Olympic Powerlifter - that was case closed for me

She improved by an awful lot once she started dating Obadele Thompson the sprinter from the Barbados.

Not quite like FloJo or Jackie Joyner Kersee, but enough that the idea she was clean was folly.

IIRC the blood samples from all the sprinters in the ‘88 Johnson DQ race were tested years later using new technology and they all tested positive.

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Re: Coach Greg: How They Dope At The 2024 Olympics
« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2024, 11:17:58 PM »
I doubt he was spiked, but can't say for sure obviously. Ben's trainer Charlie Francis said they bought a certain steroid, in Mexico I think, also a milky white water suspension, but it was fake and was Winstrol. I forget the specifics but this explained everything and I see zero reason for why Charlie would make it up as he was admitting doping, just not consciously doping with the substance he was caught with. So it was a very amateurish operation, just like the BALCO dopers were pretty amateurish. They weren't extremely high tech at all.

I don't know what Lewis was caught with, all I remember was that one ephedrine failure was supposedly swept under the carpet. I don't remember any steroid fails but that doesn't mean he didn't use them. Every single one in that race was doped

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TORONTO -- Furazabol, the steroid implicated in Ben Johnson's record-breaking success, is a mystery to Canadian experts in the synthetic hormones.

Canadian experts are baffled by mention of the drug, which coach Charlie Francis has testified he was injecting into Johnson and his fellow athletes up until just weeks before the Seoul Olympics, on the advice of Dr. Mario Astaphan.

Francis testified Johnson carried around a small bottle of furazabol bearing a handwritten label that said: 'Do not take within 28 days of competition.'

Johnson failed his urine test at the Summer Games, losing a world record and gold medal and receiving a two-year ban from international competition.

'I've never heard of furazabol, I've never heard of estrogol at all,' said University of Toronto physiologist Prof. Barry Lubek, who has studied anabolic steroids for 13 years.

Estrogol is another name for furazabol, Francis had earlier told the government inquiry into drugs in sports.

Lubek researched the drug and found it to be a little-known product produced by only one company in the world -- Daiichi of Japan.

The drug is also known as Miotolon and Androfuragol, Lubek said.

Dr. Astaphan is expected to testify at the inquiry within the next few weeks.Last week, another baffled Canadian expert, Dr. Mauro di Pasquale, had said he hadn't heard of furazabol and suggested it might be another name for stanozolol -- the drug Johnson tested positive for in Seoul.

Sterling Drug Ltd., admitted in October to selling Winstrol (a brand name of stanozolol), to Dr. Astaphan. Sterling said there are six anabolic steroids marketed in Canada and there may be only several dozen people in the country with legitimate medical uses for the compounds.

There are less than two dozen anabolic steroids available in North America, Lubek said.

Anabolic steroids are used for tissue building in protein wasting illnesses such as aplastic anemia and Raynaud's Syndrome, Lubek said.

Francis has testified that he started Johnson and other athletes on a stanozolol intake program in 1982, but Johnson and the others complained the drug made them stiff, and they tried it again in the fall of 1986 with the same results. Johnson preferred furazabol, Francis said.



He got caught using Winstrol.

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Re: Coach Greg: How They Dope At The 2024 Olympics
« Reply #78 on: August 12, 2024, 12:25:47 AM »
She improved by an awful lot once she started dating Obadele Thompson the sprinter from the Barbados.

Not quite like FloJo or Jackie Joyner Kersee, but enough that the idea she was clean was folly.

IIRC the blood samples from all the sprinters in the ‘88 Johnson DQ race were tested years later using new technology and they all tested positive.

it was pretty much all the Gold medal winners in all sports
Apparently the guy doing the testing just stopped and decided not to go any further.
He would have exposed the entire games as a sham

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Re: Coach Greg: How They Dope At The 2024 Olympics
« Reply #79 on: August 12, 2024, 12:18:59 PM »
Oh man, that boy friend man have been her husband and spilt the beans during their divorce or when he got popped on a drug test. I need to review the story. She was an incredible athlete though. Played collegiate basketball at North Carolina in addition to all of her track stuff.

Correction:  fella was a shot-putter who got busted - also they were married

Jones was trying for something even Carl couldn't do. Lewis had won four gold medals in Los Angeles in 1984. No track athlete had ever won five.

When swimming gave way to track in the second week of the games, Jones was ready to take the spotlight. She was spectacular in the 100-meter dash, winning by two-tenths of a second – a wide margin in a race often decided by hundredths. The lofty pre-Olympics goal took a hit in the long jump when she finished third, but the American public remained keenly interested in her. Jones again won gold in the 200 meters in powerful fashion, and had a gold in the 1,600 relay and a bronze in the 400.

A five-medal performance was enough to make Jones the star of Sydney. But it wasn't her only moment in the spotlight.

Not long after she won the 100, the International Olympic Committee announced that Jones' husband, American shot-putter C.J. Hunter, had failed no fewer than four pre-Olympic drug tests. Hunter had previously withdrawn from the Olympic competition, citing a knee injury, but was allowed to keep his coaching credentials and attend the games. The IOC stepped in to strip Hunter of those credentials.

Jones sat stoically at a press conference in Sydney while Hunter defended himself. Also present at the press conference: BALCO founder Victor Conte, who argued that Hunter had taken a tainted supplement.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/olympics--olympics-marion-jones-rise-and-fall-played-out-on-biggest-stage.html
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Re: Coach Greg: How They Dope At The 2024 Olympics
« Reply #80 on: August 12, 2024, 12:28:18 PM »
The recent photo I posted earlier was not flattering but Jones was hot in her prime.  Not sure why she settled for CJ Hunter.

Maybe he was the drug hookup and/or had a huge hog.