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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2024, 06:30:25 AM »
My family reckon it definitely does with me. They've not said it, but I can tell the cunts are thinking it.

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2024, 06:45:50 AM »
What bout alcohol and valium?

Bad combo too, and Ambien works like a benzo, but the Ambien is extra dangerous imo. It's bad enough on its own, people driving the wrong way on the freeway, raping people in their sleep and so on.

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2024, 07:11:18 AM »
Bad combo too, and Ambien works like a benzo, but the Ambien is extra dangerous imo. It's bad enough on its own, people driving the wrong way on the freeway, raping people in their sleep and so on.

I need something for implusivity

Do you know what drug's address that?

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2024, 07:14:37 AM »
I need something for implusivity

Do you know what drug's address that?

Maturity
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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2024, 07:21:58 AM »
Maturity

You know that bipolar is a very serious disease right?

I can't fucking help it I have a severe chemical imbalance inside my brain

Bipolar is on the same realm as schizophrenia very serious illness

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2024, 07:25:47 AM »
You know that bipolar is a very serious disease right?

I can't fucking help it I have a severe chemical imbalance inside my brain

Bipolar is on the same realm as schizophrenia very serious illness

I have a family member who has it.

However, you appear to realize what you have, so I think you just make excuses to justify your actions.

If you have this much self awareness of your condition, you should be able to realize when you are doing something wrong because of it.

I think you just prefer to be mentally lazy and not manage your impulses.
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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2024, 07:38:42 AM »
I have a family member who has it.

However, you appear to realize what you have, so I think you just make excuses to justify your actions.

If you have this much self awareness of your condition, you should be able to realize when you are doing something wrong because of it.

I think you just prefer to be mentally lazy and not manage your impulses.

You mean mindfulness right?

Guess what? Bipolar and narcissistm both have implusivity as a condition

Just looked up medication for implusivity and many say it's a part of ADHD

Jm Blakeley said he thinks I have ADHD he has a PhD metaphysics so highly intelligent individual

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2024, 07:39:25 AM »
You mean mindfulness right?

Guess what? Bipolar and narcissistm both have implusivity as a condition

Just looked up medication for implusivity and many say it's a part of ADHD

Jm Blakeley said he thinks I have ADHD he has a PhD metaphysics so highly intelligent individual

None of this contradicts what I said.

When you go to do something impulsive, you know it is.  You know it's wrong or not good long term.  You apparently know it's caused by your condition.  But you do it anyway.  That is not a product of a disease, it's a product of immaturity.
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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2024, 07:47:26 AM »
Does or has anyone had any friends or family experience increased paranoia with heavy drinking?

Don't bring 'irishdave' into this.

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2024, 08:21:23 AM »
Don't bring 'irishdave' into this.

Irish Dave and this thread

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2024, 09:15:49 AM »
Just about all the stupid things I've done in my life were while drinking.

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2024, 09:27:35 AM »
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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2024, 10:26:18 AM »
That is not a product of a disease,

I'm not saying you're wrong, but say someone has a mental condition and knows it. His doctor knows it too. Patient doesn't appear to be able to stop bad behavior. You bring in a drug and the behavior stops, seemingly with no effort. What is that? Let's say a few people say they ivercame their cindition through sheer "will" but statistics say most can't without drugs. Is it an issue of bad character, character somehow being apart from biology, or is it almost completely biology? If an ADHD can cure himself why not a schizo? What's the difference? I don't have an answer, I'm not saying that, but so far I'm leaning strongly towards most everything being "genes." Most people almost get angry when you suggest this, especially left leaning folks, no, we are definitely born as blank pages to be filled by socialisation and our own "will." But what if we are born and our book was already almost completely written and we are just living out the script and we have little agency? It seems impossible, and yet the thought lingers for me...

They say substance abuse is not a disease but users will say they simply seemingly lose all agency with substances, free will becomes way less. Almost all say they simply can't touch anything again for all their lives because "the gene" is there and is going nowhere. If it was all character they could just as well go to moderate drinking as abstain completely but history shows that is rare.

I always say to people, why are you mad at so and so because they don't act the way you would like? It's almost impossible to change people, it seems close to impossible for people to change themselves, no matter how good character they have.

Just some thoughts  8)


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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2024, 10:31:33 AM »
I need something for implusivity

Do you know what drug's address that?

Weed. If I were smoking weed all day I wouldn't post here at all. I would second guess myself all the time and would come to the conclusion, "it's not worth it." Perhaps correctly. But that's just me, though they say weed pacifies and passifies, Kat Williams said weed makes you realise most things are not worth doing, so you just sit staring at your fridge or whatever.

I'm not recommending it though.

Of course ADHD is treated with amphetamines, and those are supposed to help you stay on task instead of jumping around aimlessly. That might be negative if you end up jacking off for 8 hours straight.

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2024, 10:59:50 AM »
I'm not saying you're wrong, but say someone has a mental condition and knows it. His doctor knows it too. Patient doesn't appear to be able to stop bad behavior. You bring in a drug and the behavior stops, seemingly with no effort. What is that? Let's say a few people say they ivercame their cindition through sheer "will" but statistics say most can't without drugs. Is it an issue of bad character, character somehow being apart from biology, or is it almost completely biology? If an ADHD can cure himself why not a schizo? What's the difference? I don't have an answer, I'm not saying that, but so far I'm leaning strongly towards most everything being "genes." Most people almost get angry when you suggest this, especially left leaning folks, no, we are definitely born as blank pages to be filled by socialisation and our own "will." But what if we are born and our book was already almost completely written and we are just living out the script and we have little agency? It seems impossible, and yet the thought lingers for me...

They say substance abuse is not a disease but users will say they simply seemingly lose all agency with substances, free will becomes way less. Almost all say they simply can't touch anything again for all their lives because "the gene" is there and is going nowhere. If it was all character they could just as well go to moderate drinking as abstain completely but history shows that is rare.

I always say to people, why are you mad at so and so because they don't act the way you would like? It's almost impossible to change people, it seems close to impossible for people to change themselves, no matter how good character they have.

Just some thoughts  8)

Implusivity is chemical I believe

Therefore very hard to manage it without drug intervention

Both bipolar and narcissistm have hallmarks of implusivity and if I also have ADHD that's a 3 way shit storm

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2024, 11:04:43 AM »
Implusivity is chemical I believe

Therefore very hard to manage it without drug intervention

Both bipolar and narcissistm have hallmarks of implusivity and if I also have ADHD that's a 3 way shit storm
is pedophilia an impuse disorder as well?

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2024, 11:46:51 AM »
Let's blame everything on 'impulsivity.'

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2024, 12:07:52 PM »
Let's blame everything on 'impulsivity.'

Not everything but not keeping a job not.keeping a relationship not spending money I get within days not drinking heavily when I drink and not training incessantly

So 5 or 6 major major problems especially spending not keeping jobs not keeping friends

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2024, 02:36:14 PM »
Bad combo too, and Ambien works like a benzo, but the Ambien is extra dangerous imo. It's bad enough on its own, people driving the wrong way on the freeway, raping people in their sleep and so on.


Ambien sucks ass and doesn’t do shit for me. No raping, no strange dreams, no driving wrong way. Shit, no sleep. It literally does nothing for me. I’ve taken four at night at one time and laid down and it didn’t do shit.

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2024, 02:52:03 PM »
I'm not saying you're wrong, but say someone has a mental condition and knows it. His doctor knows it too. Patient doesn't appear to be able to stop bad behavior. You bring in a drug and the behavior stops, seemingly with no effort. What is that? Let's say a few people say they ivercame their cindition through sheer "will" but statistics say most can't without drugs. Is it an issue of bad character, character somehow being apart from biology, or is it almost completely biology? If an ADHD can cure himself why not a schizo? What's the difference? I don't have an answer, I'm not saying that, but so far I'm leaning strongly towards most everything being "genes." Most people almost get angry when you suggest this, especially left leaning folks, no, we are definitely born as blank pages to be filled by socialisation and our own "will." But what if we are born and our book was already almost completely written and we are just living out the script and we have little agency? It seems impossible, and yet the thought lingers for me...

They say substance abuse is not a disease but users will say they simply seemingly lose all agency with substances, free will becomes way less. Almost all say they simply can't touch anything again for all their lives because "the gene" is there and is going nowhere. If it was all character they could just as well go to moderate drinking as abstain completely but history shows that is rare.

I always say to people, why are you mad at so and so because they don't act the way you would like? It's almost impossible to change people, it seems close to impossible for people to change themselves, no matter how good character they have.

Just some thoughts  8)

Not saying you're wrong either.  I have a family member who is bipolar 2 and depressive, and likely an alcoholic.  When he goes into a depressive state, it's an entirely different human, who will make decisions that have terrible consequences.  Never sees the big picture, things become clouded, and  the destructive and self medicating behavior begins.  It's a cycle.  Then, he hits a bottom, fixes stuff, eats great, exercises, feels awesome, then in 8-10 weeks it happens again.  Started two years ago.

The difference is this person is in denial about their condition, always blames stress, and things a change of scenery, etc will make it impossible to happen again.  But it always does.

dj is very aware.  Maybe when he's in the "impulsive" moment, he doesn't know it's wrong.  Or he does and says "fuck it" and doesn't worry about the consequences.  But it always appears he's trying to drug his way out of every challenge he faces.

I could be be completely wrong, but I think he'd do much better switching to more hybrid training with vigorous (not steve) cardio, eating better foods that don't spike blood sugar, and trying to work towards something meaningful.
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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2024, 02:59:37 PM »
Not saying you're wrong either.  I have a family member who is bipolar 2 and depressive, and likely an alcoholic.  When he goes into a depressive state, it's an entirely different human, who will make decisions that have terrible consequences.  Never sees the big picture, things become clouded, and  the destructive and self medicating behavior begins.  It's a cycle.  Then, he hits a bottom, fixes stuff, eats great, exercises, feels awesome, then in 8-10 weeks it happens again.  Started two years ago.

The difference is this person is in denial about their condition, always blames stress, and things a change of scenery, etc will make it impossible to happen again.  But it always does.

dj is very aware.  Maybe when he's in the "impulsive" moment, he doesn't know it's wrong.  Or he does and says "fuck it" and doesn't worry about the consequences.  But it always appears he's trying to drug his way out of every challenge he faces.

I could be be completely wrong, but I think he'd do much better switching to more hybrid training with vigorous (not steve) cardio, eating better foods that don't spike blood sugar, and trying to work towards something meaningful.
alternatively he could just fuck off

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2024, 03:02:34 PM »
alternatively he could just fuck off

I'll leave that to you guys lol.
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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2024, 03:08:11 PM »
Not saying you're wrong either.  I have a family member who is bipolar 2 and depressive, and likely an alcoholic.  When he goes into a depressive state, it's an entirely different human, who will make decisions that have terrible consequences.  Never sees the big picture, things become clouded, and  the destructive and self medicating behavior begins.  It's a cycle.  Then, he hits a bottom, fixes stuff, eats great, exercises, feels awesome, then in 8-10 weeks it happens again.  Started two years ago.

The difference is this person is in denial about their condition, always blames stress, and things a change of scenery, etc will make it impossible to happen again.  But it always does.

dj is very aware.  Maybe when he's in the "impulsive" moment, he doesn't know it's wrong.  Or he does and says "fuck it" and doesn't worry about the consequences.  But it always appears he's trying to drug his way out of every challenge he faces.

I could be be completely wrong, but I think he'd do much better switching to more hybrid training with vigorous (not steve) cardio, eating better foods that don't spike blood sugar, and trying to work towards something meaningful.

Good stuff. But overall, I think people rarely change, especially as an adult. I'd want some radical changes myself but it's tough  :-\

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2024, 03:15:06 PM »
Not everything but not keeping a job not.keeping a relationship not spending money I get within days not drinking heavily when I drink and not training incessantly

So 5 or 6 major major problems especially spending not keeping jobs not keeping friends

lol training incessantly. Doesn’t train back, legs, or cardio. You even fail at being impulsive.

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Re: Does alcohol intensify paranoia?
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2024, 04:14:32 PM »
I'm not saying you're wrong, but say someone has a mental condition and knows it. His doctor knows it too. Patient doesn't appear to be able to stop bad behavior. You bring in a drug and the behavior stops, seemingly with no effort. What is that? Let's say a few people say they ivercame their cindition through sheer "will" but statistics say most can't without drugs. Is it an issue of bad character, character somehow being apart from biology, or is it almost completely biology? If an ADHD can cure himself why not a schizo? What's the difference? I don't have an answer, I'm not saying that, but so far I'm leaning strongly towards most everything being "genes." Most people almost get angry when you suggest this, especially left leaning folks, no, we are definitely born as blank pages to be filled by socialisation and our own "will." But what if we are born and our book was already almost completely written and we are just living out the script and we have little agency? It seems impossible, and yet the thought lingers for me...

They say substance abuse is not a disease but users will say they simply seemingly lose all agency with substances, free will becomes way less. Almost all say they simply can't touch anything again for all their lives because "the gene" is there and is going nowhere. If it was all character they could just as well go to moderate drinking as abstain completely but history shows that is rare.

I always say to people, why are you mad at so and so because they don't act the way you would like? It's almost impossible to change people, it seems close to impossible for people to change themselves, no matter how good character they have.

Just some thoughts  8)


Trust me when I say this Van....I am a completely and much better person than I was in my past ,and I accomplished this just about by myself.

It`s about recognizing character defects, committing yourself to change them, and sticking to it,no matter how bad it gets, or how hard it seems at times.

I`m still a work in progress as we should all strive to be.