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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12050 on: November 05, 2006, 11:19:46 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12051 on: November 05, 2006, 11:20:29 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12052 on: November 05, 2006, 11:21:04 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12053 on: November 05, 2006, 11:34:50 PM »
forcedreps, thank you so much for these pics.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12054 on: November 05, 2006, 11:45:43 PM »
wow they both look so great in these pics.... Ronnies physique is in a league of its own.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12055 on: November 05, 2006, 11:54:27 PM »
is it just me or does Yates' skin look awful? I'm beginning to wonder if his bad skin contributed to his "grainy" appearance. He has little tiny bumps all over his body.








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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12056 on: November 06, 2006, 12:26:10 AM »
Pumpy is this shot morphed now bitch? lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12057 on: November 06, 2006, 12:35:32 AM »
These picture just reaffirm everything I've been saying about Yates at his best and why he is unstopable !!

thanks for the pics forced reps !! Yates legs from top to bottom crush Ronnie's from 1999 , no detail Hulkster lol kid you're in trouble now.  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12059 on: November 06, 2006, 04:37:56 AM »

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12060 on: November 06, 2006, 05:07:25 AM »
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Ok, a few comments:

 - I had already seen most of these pics before in the review of the 1999 by several magazines even in that same year, so you just owned yourselves. 

 - Ronnie has great separations and cross-striations, but Dorian in his 1995 form is bigger and makes Ronnie look soft.

 - Ronnie obviously has some gut distension.

 - His abs/serratus are not as good as Dorian's.

 - Ronnie's back is no match for Dorian's in either width or thickness. It only appears like it does because his waist is slightly smaller.

 - Ronnie's arms are not better than Dorian's and this proves it: his triceps looks bigger than it is because it's rounder. Most of his arms size is biceps.

 - LikeI've elucidated before, there are several objective criteria that must be evaluated from different angles while flexing differnt muscles to evaluate a physique, and Dorian takes most of it. The particular musco-skeletal structure of a physique is a matter of choice, and no bodybuilder's with [hysiques as different as Ruhl's and Shawn have won contest, so this doesen't mean shit.

 - Ronnie has more separations, but Dorian has greater density; thus, conditioning would probably go to Dorian.

 - Dorian carried more muscle, since he weighted the same, but was dryer.

 - Kevin at the 1995 Olympia was 250 lbs with the same cross-striations and separations, yet Dorian defeatd him with straight-firsts scores from all judges in all rounds. So these pics don't mean shit.

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Find anyone else here other than a dishonest ND who agrees with your excuses. Haven't seen anyone yet.   ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12061 on: November 06, 2006, 05:08:48 AM »
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is it just me or does Yates' skin look awful? I'm beginning to wonder if his bad skin contributed to his "grainy" appearance. He has little tiny bumps all over his body.

Something tells me he also has bad teeth, to go with the skin, so-so structure & imbalances.  I have a feeling that ND & SUCKY personally relate to all of these problems.  ;D ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12062 on: November 06, 2006, 05:10:29 AM »
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Pumpy is this shot morphed now bitch? lol

This is where ND & SUCKY show their true colors-unable to address & accept the larger issue at hand they resort to deflections and petty name-calling.

ND is likely just hitting puberty, judging by this need to insult in lieu of content.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12063 on: November 06, 2006, 05:13:10 AM »
GAME OVER


Embarassing mismatch:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12064 on: November 06, 2006, 05:18:43 AM »
On Yates' only upper body strongpoint other than tris (back), Coleman's wider, is more muscular, more refined and has a better taper to a smaller waist. At least as dry. A lot more muscular, no doubt about it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12065 on: November 06, 2006, 05:19:27 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12066 on: November 06, 2006, 05:20:26 AM »
Yates looking comically small & lacking in refinement when compared!

So much for Yates' supposed triceps advantage-he lacks tri size in comparison-the definition and development's skewed around the smaller side lateral & medical heads. This fools novices who ignore the size deficiency of the long head relative to Coleman:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12067 on: November 06, 2006, 05:25:38 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12068 on: November 06, 2006, 06:01:38 AM »
I give Yates the side tricep and ab/thigh. Coleman wins everything else.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12069 on: November 06, 2006, 06:30:16 AM »
  Ok, a few comments:

 - I had already seen most of these pics before in the review of the 1999 by several magazines even in that same year, so you just owned yourselves. ;D ;)

 - Ronnie has great separations and cross-striations, but Dorian in his 1995 form is bigger and makes Ronnie look soft.

 - Ronnie obviously has some gut distension.

 - His abs/serratus are not as good as Dorian's.

 - Ronnie's back is no match for Dorian's in either width or thickness. It only appears like it does because his waist is slightly smaller.

 - Ronnie's arms are not better than Dorian's and this proves it: his triceps looks bigger than it is because it's rounder. Most of his arms size is biceps.

 - LikeI've elucidated before, there are several objective criteria that must be evaluated from different angles while flexing differnt muscles to evaluate a physique, and Dorian takes most of it. The particular musco-skeletal structure of a physique is a matter of choice, and no bodybuilder's with [hysiques as different as Ruhl's and Shawn have won contest, so this doesen't mean shit.

 - Ronnie has more separations, but Dorian has greater density; thus, conditioning would probably go to Dorian.

 - Dorian carried more muscle, since he weighted the same, but was dryer.

 - Kevin at the 1995 Olympia was 250 lbs with the same cross-striations and separations, yet Dorian defeatd him with straight-firsts scores from all judges in all rounds. So these pics don't mean shit. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Sucky, from a medical standpoint you are incorrect my friend.  I agree that Dorian had that razor like condition that Ronnie approached but never exceeded.  However, Dorian did not carry more muscle.  For one, Dorian has larger joints as can be appreciated by his wrist size.  Second, although he may have been slightly drier and that is stretch (for Coleman 1999), the difference in weight would have been a pound max.  We are talking the lightest sheen of water; both have equivalent bodyfat compositions.  In fact, Ronnie may be slightly leaner as Dorian never had the etched glutes that Coleman displays.  However, if both were at 3% or so bodyfat and taking into consideration joint size; I would actually give the nod to Coleman.  Regardless, it would be a good show.  I prefer Coleman, but another can easily choose Dorian.  It is what you like and expect in a bodybuilder.  Ronnie's back is easily as wide.  It is impossible to make accurate comparisons as they did not stand side by side.  Pics in the magazines are taken from different perspective, so even if their were a perceptible difference we would not be able to tell by seeing them solo.  That is why the show is judged live and not by pics.  What Hulkster and Pumpster don't understand is that Dorian is damn good and would definitely hold his own.  As I said before, 1995 Doz vs 1999 Coleman is another apples and oranges comparison.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12070 on: November 06, 2006, 06:35:11 AM »
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That is why the show is judged live and not by pics.  What Hulkster and Pumpster don't understand is that Dorian is damn good and would definitely hold his own. 
What you don't understand is that you're the biggest vacillator on here! Your wishy-washiness is of epic proportions.

Pics are in. Take a stand.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12071 on: November 06, 2006, 06:51:20 AM »
What you don't understand is that you're the biggest vacillator on here! Your wishy-washiness is of epic proportions.

Pics are in. Take a stand.

Wrong my friend, I prefer Coleman.  However, I am not so naive that it is inconceivable that Dorian would win.  Bodybuilding is not a race; there is not score you shoot for.  It is a show judged by a judging panel with their obvious biases and preferences.  Although I may prefer Coleman, and I do if you bothered to read my thread, others may not.  Bodybuilding is a lot like politics; you can't conceive in a million years why someone would back the other guy.  However, in their defense, they feel the same way about you.  Thus, the conundrum.  Pics are important and Coleaman does look superior, but live shows bring out a whole different aspect of the body.  Thus, I stand by my neutrality with a preference for Coleman.  Never once have I said that an alltime Doz would beat an alltime Ronnie. 

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12072 on: November 06, 2006, 06:57:14 AM »
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Wrong my friend, I prefer Coleman.  However, I am not so naive that it is inconceivable that Dorian would win.

These new pics widen the disparaties and further discredit your fence sitting. Your position should be all the clearer now but instead you're mired in obfuscations. Your central position in this thread should be prominent, and never is. Did you vote for Kerry?

I could do the same as you and employ 5 paragraphs basically saying "then on the other hand"...seriously dude grow some balls. ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12073 on: November 06, 2006, 07:00:14 AM »
What you don't understand is that you're the biggest vacillator on here! Your wishy-washiness is of epic proportions.

Pics are in. Take a stand.

100% TRUTH. I cant read this guys posts anymore, back and forth, back and forth... "although ronnie was good, however... but then again... yet you cant forget... regardless, people always overlook..."

"is it just me or does Yates' skin look awful? I'm beginning to wonder if his bad skin contributed to his "grainy" appearance. He has little tiny bumps all over his body."

Neo thats what ive been saying all along... compared to ronnies flawless skin dorians looks lumpy, which from a distance may look "grainy" but up close just looks like bacne... i think these photos and clips confirmed this

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12074 on: November 06, 2006, 07:00:18 AM »
The one thing that does bother me about Coleman in 99 is the abdominal distention....looks like crap.