" Dorian Yates is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time "
This is true.
" Dorian Yates should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler "
I revised my opinion. But he should have lost to shawn in 94
" Dorian's conditioning is a myth "
well, ronnie.'s was better in almost all bodyparts except for abs and lower back.
" Ronnie's calves are more detailed than Dorian's "
in 99, they might be. they were just smaller and had crappy shape.
" Ronnie has better balance & proportion than Dorian "
he does. you are the ONLY one besides Pubic who thinks Dorian "twigs on a redwoood" Yates had great balance.
" Ronnie was just as hard & dry in 1999 as he was in 1998 "
proven time after time after time. And Peter has nothing to back his claims up.
" Ronnie was alteast 10-12 pounds heavier in 1999 than 1998 "
I have seen ronnie's 98 weight quoted as 247 before..
" Lee Labrada had crappy abdominals and calves "
they weren't exactly world class...
" The 1994 Mr Olympia was just as controversial as the 1980 Mr Olympia "
very true.
" Ronnie dominated Jay Cutler from the back in 2001 despite losing the whole pre-judging "
you are the only idiot in history to think that Jay's back in 2001 was anywhere neaer the level of Ronnie's...
" Shawn Ray owns Dorian Yates in the back double biceps shot "
true in 94.
" Nasser was close to beating Dorian "
spoken like a true newbie In 97 he was close
" Dorian only beat guys who weighed less than him "
nasser almost beat him, Dillet had no back. otherwise very true.
" Dorian has NO quality "
depends on the year..94 wasn't exactly anything to write home about.
" Ronnie is aesthetic "
in 98/99 most people agree with me.
" Dorian has crappy quads "
very true to all but you and pubic.
No you're a LOT dumber than I ever thought lol
1) you mean the most dominant of all time? how can you be the most dominant, beat the best at their best, and also be considered overrated. i have never heard from a qualified person (judge, former bber) that yates is overrated. you dont count. i said qualified.
2) why would dorian have lost to someone 5'6 200 lbs. who is not harder or dryer than himself?
3) ronnie's conditioning better?
maybe if you consider being softer and holding more water and having gyno in better condition.
4) who cares how detailed ronnie's calves were. they were too small with shitty shape and ruined his balance in virtually every shot.
5) ronnie and dorian both have good balance. yates' arms a bit small and so are ronnie's calves. the one criteria that would little or no effect bc both are pretty even.
6) peter was at the contest in both 98 and 99. he is paid to review contests and has been paid to do that for the past 30 years. i'd say he's more than qualified. what do you do for a living? it has NOTHING to do with bodybuilding. (thank god).
7) labrada didnt have 'worldclass' abs or calves. but he was a world class bber. would you rather have what you consider to be 'worldclass' for a few bodyparts or be an actual worldclass bber who finished top 4 in the Olympia for 7 straight years?
not even close. 1980 and the 94. arnold showed up way too small. despite how yates look, he was never out of shape. not his best shape, but his best was soo much better than anyone else's.
9) shawn is too small to compete with dorian IN ANY SHOT from head to toe. not to mention yates is harder and dryer.
WHEN WILL YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. THAT IS THE REASON WHY GUYS TAKE DIURETICS. THEY DONT TAKE DIURETICS FOR STRIATIONS, DETAILS, OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF10) nasser was close, but once all angeles (side and back), it was very apparent that yates deserved to win. i have never read anything from nasser about how he should have won. if you have, please post.
11) acutally coleman is the one who only beat guys smaller than him. other than gunter in 02, everyone was smaller than ronnie. nasser, paul, louie, jp, francois, levrone, etc. were bigger or very similar in size to dorian. much more so than jay, dexter, gustavo, flex, chris, etc.
11) yates has tremendous quality. no one has matched his combo of mass and conditioning.
12) ronnie is asethetic. even when he is heavier, he has decent asethetics. much more so than dorian ever did. but if asethetics mattered at all, ahmend haider would be mr. olympia.
13) yates quads were a bit strange. however, he had some of the best teardrops of all time and no one had harder legs. no one else can do that leg stomp that yates does and have nothing move or jiggle.
hulkster, you have been owned more times in this thread than ronnie was by yates during dorian's career. 
