Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

just b/c Ronnie was holding more water than his best ever form doesn't automatically mean he's "waterlogged." According to your logic, Dorian was holding an ocean in 94 b/c he was fatter and holding more water than 93. Ronnie in 03 was still shredded and dry.

waterlogged my ass.

Do you think he's just as dry as 1998? or 2001 ASC? in 2003?

[pobrecito]

just b/c Ronnie was holding more water than his best ever form doesn't automatically mean he's "waterlogged." According to your logic, Dorian was holding an ocean in 94 b/c he was fatter and holding more water than 93. Ronnie in 03 was still shredded and dry.

Actually you are dead on, Yates was inferior in 94 compared to 93, Yates himself openly acknowledges that.

What good is coming in at 287lbs if your condition is not at its best? A 2003 Ronnie in 98 condition is likely around 270lbs.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I wasn't saying that dorian's quads were tiny.

I was pointing out the fact that you claimed dorian owns ronnie top to bottom, but you forgot the quads which is a HUGE part of the pose that Ronnie OWNS dorian in..

Keep picking strawmen to knock down , Ronnie owns Dorian in size & upper separation , his OVERALL shot sucks compared to Dorian.

[Hulkster]

A 2003 Ronnie in 98 condition is likely around 270lbs.

and this can be viewed here:

[NarcissisticDeity]

Actually you are dead on, Yates was inferior in 94 compared to 93, Yates himself openly acknowledges that.

What good is coming in at 287lbs if your condition is not at its best? A 2003 Ronnie in 98 condition is likely around 270lbs.

If he's lucky he'd be 270 pounds ! look what happened when he competed just 7 pounds heavier from 1998 to 1999 his conditioning suffered , 1999 to 2000 7 more pounds and a hell of a lot more water ! Ronnie can't be 98 dry at any weight heavier than 250 pounds its an extremely hard think to do for anyone.

[NeoSeminole]

Do you think he's just as dry as 1998? or 2001 ASC? in 2003?

no, I already answered this question.

[IceCold]

Peter McGough.

before you claimed pete was an idiot and didnt know what he was talking about.

[Hulkster]

ab and thigh prejudging 99:

[chaos]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

and this can be viewed here:

I always laugh at these pics look how pathetic his calves are lol what a collection of mismatched parts

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, I already answered this question.

Okay ! 03 great conditioning for a 287 pound bodybuilder but still holding water , not as hard or dry as 98/01 asc

[IceCold]

I wasn't saying that dorian's quads were tiny.

I was pointing out the fact that you claimed dorian owns ronnie top to bottom, but you forgot the quads which is a HUGE part of the pose that Ronnie OWNS dorian in..

dexter jackson and gustavo owned ronnie in that pose during Olympia in 03 and 04.

you think dorian wouldnt?  but beat flex, kevin, and shawn.

how would dexter and gustavo do against shawn and flex at their best?

yeah, i thought so.

[Hulkster]

I always laugh at these pics look how pathetic his calves are lol what a collection of mismatched parts

thats only because you are an idiot.

hope this helps.

those shots are amazing.

[NeoSeminole]

Okay! 03 great conditioning for a 287 pound bodybuilder but still holding water, not as hard or dry as 98/01 asc

exactly

[IceCold]

ab and thigh prejudging 99:

ronnie's midsection still sucks.  

its still a 4 pack.

like quads with 3 heads and triceps with 2 heads.

[Hulkster]

dexter jackson and gustavo owned ronnie in that pose during Olympia in 03 and 04.

you think dorian wouldnt?  but beat flex, kevin, and shawn.

how would dexter and gustavo do against shawn and flex at their best?

yeah, i thought so.

IceCold seems to be losing brain cells the longer this thread goes on..

of course dexter and gastavo beat Ronnie in the ab shot in 2004 - he was 297 pounds and full of water! and 41 years old to boot!

 

[Hulkster]

ronnie's midsection still sucks.  

its still a 4 pack.

like quads with 3 heads and triceps with 2 heads.

just like a two pack of biceps...:

[Hulkster]

actually, scratch that - post tear it was more like a zero pack...

[pobrecito]

and this can be viewed here:

Those shots were taken 2.5 weeks out of the Olympia @ 275lbs. Figure he would lose 5-7lbs more by the contest and where does that put him? ~269lbs. Dorian did that all the way back in 1993, 2-3 weeks out where he said he was already in contest condition. So what standard did Ronnie really set? None.

[IceCold]

IceCold seems to be losing brain cells the longer this thread goes on..

of course dexter and gastavo beat Ronnie in the ab shot in 2004 - he was 297 pounds and full of water! and 41 years old to boot!

 

so how would he do against dorian if guys that crushed ronnie would be crushed by guys that dorian crushed. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

thats only because you are an idiot.

hope this helps.

those shots are amazing.

Hulkster NO ONE is denying those shots are aren't amazing they're just NOT whats asked for in terms of balance & proportion by the IFBB judging criteria , I hope this helps.

[IceCold]

just like a two pack of biceps...:

biceps are suppossed to have 2 heads.

abs are suppossed to have 6 plates - not four.

a lousy midsection is a much bigger liability than having 1 muscle torn.  

and on top of that ronnie now has torn his 2 best bodyparts that are responsible for much of his olympia wins - his back and arms.

[NarcissisticDeity]

IceCold seems to be losing brain cells the longer this thread goes on..

of course dexter and gastavo beat Ronnie in the ab shot in 2004 - he was 297 pounds and full of water! and 41 years old to boot!

 

excuses when in doubt throw out the old age excuse , it wasn't excuse when Ronnie was winning in his 40s but when people look better than him its time to use the old age excuse , Al Beckles looked fantastic into his late 50s and early 60s don't use this as an excuse.

[NeoSeminole]

Those shots were taken 2.5 weeks out of the Olympia @ 275lbs. Figure he would lose 5-7lbs more by the contest and where does that put him? ~269lbs. Dorian did that all the way back in 1993, 2-3 weeks out where he said he was already in contest condition. So what standard did Ronnie really set? None.

damn, what exactly do you expect? The human body can only advance so much. Track speed records used to be broken by secs. Nowadays, they are broken only by milliseconds. Those 02 offseason shots of Ronnie matched Dorian's size and conditioning with better shape and detail. Notice the difference in the quads and arms. Ronnie also had a very small waist for a man his size.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian was never close to those shots, hope this helps.

Another guy with not much to say , Dorian was 269 pounds in 1993 when Ronnie was 230 pounds soaking wet , despite Ronnie actually starting to train well before Yates !