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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18750 on: January 01, 2007, 01:49:11 AM »
some new video stills I made.












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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18751 on: January 01, 2007, 02:22:38 AM »
some new video stills I made.












dude make some video stills from this video of ronnie from olympia 2006..just check out ronnies delts at 3.36...freaky.also just check out ronnies back 6.36..awesome.only his lats look shitty
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18752 on: January 01, 2007, 06:22:33 AM »
I have quotes to.

FLEX JAN 1999: MIKE MATARAZZO on RONNIE COLEMAN at the 98 Olympia: “I think this creature from another planet, RONNIE COLEMAN, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten DORIAN YATES."

Ernie Taylor said that Yates  if competed in 1998 he would have beat Ronnie  ;) and a few thoughts from Shawn Ray on Ronnie Coleman 1998  :)

Ronnie Coleman was the most improved bodybuilder , and they should have an award for that but it SHOULDN'T be the overall title. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia for making the most improvement.

Ronnie does NOT have the complete physique. He has a certain degree of shape and detail but , let's be honest , he has a lot of weaknesses : calves , hamstrings , midsection. He has flaws on his physique that you just can't find on my physique or Flex Wheeler's physique.

Did they even count the posing routine? Ronnie Coleman is never going to be remembered for a posing routine.



And Mike Mattarazo on Dorian Yates

Flex magazine Step 1996 Mike Mattarzo on Dorian Yates


" the only Mr Olympia who can't lose to anyone but himself . he is truly unbeatable. "


" Does he even have skin? "


from 2003 DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.



You have quotes lol I have more.  ;)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18753 on: January 01, 2007, 06:32:21 AM »


This is also a Hulkster post , if you think that picture you posted is comparable to Dorian you're just as out of your mind as Hulkster is.

its night and day.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18754 on: January 01, 2007, 06:41:56 AM »
the difference in size >>> the difference in conditioning



Not quite

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Ronnie has the edge in mucular bulk , but NOT balanced development NOT density and NOT conditioning , he may have had an easy time with a flat Cutler & a 225 pound Dexter Jackson but Dorian is on another level all together.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18755 on: January 01, 2007, 07:20:49 AM »
Interview with Dorian Yates http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson199.htm

[ Q ] Of course you were famous for your level of conditioning, as you brought a grainy appearance to the stage that is still talked about today. Did you do anything special to acquire this appearance?

      There are no magic tricks, as it is a year round job. Staying in fairly good condition in the off-season, then getting ready over a long period of time, nice and slowly and really trying to aim for near-off being in contest condition two to three weeks before the show. Then it's just a case of fine-tuning things a little bit, manipulating water levels and so on.


[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.





Hulkster his conditioning was a myth you say?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18756 on: January 01, 2007, 07:27:55 AM »
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Hulkster his conditioning was a myth you say?

how can someone have history's greatest conditioning when you have arms and quads that look like playdough?

use your brain - dorian's conditioning was not as good as it was hyped up to be:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18757 on: January 01, 2007, 07:29:55 AM »
how can someone have history's greatest conditioning when you have arms and quads that look like playdough?

use your brain - dorian's conditioning was not as good as it was hyped up to be:



LMFAO meltdown 2007 begins.

his arms look like solid blocks of marble.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18758 on: January 01, 2007, 07:30:54 AM »
 ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18759 on: January 01, 2007, 07:33:18 AM »
yeah, look at that left arm in the black and white shot...

looks like a solid block of PLAY DOUGH!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18760 on: January 01, 2007, 07:37:42 AM »
yeah, look at that left arm in the black and white shot...

looks like a solid block of PLAY DOUGH!

 :-\

You're so full of it lol playdough is whats between your ears lol no fat or SQ water in those muscles , just thickness & density , you could push in on his arm and not make and indent.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18761 on: January 01, 2007, 07:43:28 AM »
you could push on these and lose your finger...

talk about doughy..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18762 on: January 01, 2007, 07:49:51 AM »
you could push on these and lose your finger...

talk about doughy..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18763 on: January 01, 2007, 07:57:33 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18764 on: January 01, 2007, 08:03:25 AM »
brutal avoidance of reality...

Strawman for you to attempt to knock down this is from the same contest as the pic you posted, here is reality kid and welcome to it.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18765 on: January 01, 2007, 08:07:45 AM »
I wanted greet everybody..But wow,yates is owned completely inthis pic!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18766 on: January 01, 2007, 08:09:43 AM »
I wanted greet everybody..But wow,yates is owned completely inthis pic!


thats usually what happens when you get "straight firsts" when you are overrated..

you get owned repeatedly and still get perfect... :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18767 on: January 01, 2007, 08:20:48 AM »
I wanted greet everybody..But wow,yates is owned completely inthis pic!


What the video ! big difference between that picture and the video.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18768 on: January 01, 2007, 08:23:18 AM »
thats usually what happens when you get "straight firsts" when you are overrated..

you get owned repeatedly and still get perfect... :-\

Hulkster  you post a single picture and based your entire opinion on that and assume that is indicative of the whole contest or his whole appearence and its NOT , I know your abilities are limited but don't claim victory on a single picture its old and tired.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18769 on: January 01, 2007, 08:48:34 AM »
Peter McGough's critique on Dorian at the 1995 Mr Olympia

Dorian Yates : Skin like tissue paper. In crucial front double biceps shot , the left bicep is short , but NOT fatally so. Traps look as if they have the capacity to render him deaf. Back , upper and lower , is sensational in every respect : width , thickness and detail. Side triceps pose is a masterpiece that he's made into a Broadway number. Thighs have more sweep than before. Calves? Yates wrote the book on calves. In muscle thickness , he's in a class of his own. Today's combination of size , proportion , shape and condition makes this his peak form.

And Here is Bill Dobbins on Yates at the 1995 Olympia

As Weider photographer Bill Dobbins so succinctly put it as Yates strutted his stuff : " I have never seen such muscle development on a human being. The other guys sit around backstage talking about whether to get big or cut , what they need to do is get like Dorian. "

Overrated post tear lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18770 on: January 01, 2007, 11:44:14 AM »
Ernie Taylor said that Yates  if competed in 1998 he would have beat Ronnie  ;) and a few thoughts from Shawn Ray on Ronnie Coleman 1998  :)

Ronnie Coleman was the most improved bodybuilder , and they should have an award for that but it SHOULDN'T be the overall title. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia for making the most improvement.

Ronnie does NOT have the complete physique. He has a certain degree of shape and detail but , let's be honest , he has a lot of weaknesses : calves , hamstrings , midsection. He has flaws on his physique that you just can't find on my physique or Flex Wheeler's physique.

Did they even count the posing routine? Ronnie Coleman is never going to be remembered for a posing routine.



And Mike Mattarazo on Dorian Yates

Flex magazine Step 1996 Mike Mattarzo on Dorian Yates


" the only Mr Olympia who can't lose to anyone but himself . he is truly unbeatable. "


" Does he even have skin? "


from 2003 DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.



You have quotes lol I have more.  ;)



Shawan Ray. I have the magazine where he said that. Let's face it. Shawn Ray couldn't have won that Olympia anyway, so why is he bitching? He came in at 215, too heavy and not as sharp.

Being the most improved does not stop you from winning the whole contest, remember that.

Matarazzo said that when Coleman won his 6th Olympia, that was 3 years ago. In case you don't know, Coleman has 8 Olympias now. How much does yates have? Oh wait, it's 6.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18771 on: January 01, 2007, 11:51:56 AM »
Interview with Dorian Yates http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson199.htm

[ Q ] Of course you were famous for your level of conditioning, as you brought a grainy appearance to the stage that is still talked about today. Did you do anything special to acquire this appearance?

      There are no magic tricks, as it is a year round job. Staying in fairly good condition in the off-season, then getting ready over a long period of time, nice and slowly and really trying to aim for near-off being in contest condition two to three weeks before the show. Then it's just a case of fine-tuning things a little bit, manipulating water levels and so on.


[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.





Hulkster his conditioning was a myth you say?

He was grainy to a certain point, but boy did he have bad skin that made look more grainy. Open this pic to 100% and you can see dark brownish spots all over his body. Nasty looking.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18772 on: January 01, 2007, 11:55:17 AM »
the reason that I keep saying that his conditioning was a myth was that his arms, pecs, delts, and quads hardly EVER looked really hard.

you need more than ripped abs and a ripped lower back to be the most conditioned of all time in my book...

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18773 on: January 01, 2007, 12:21:04 PM »
Shawan Ray. I have the magazine where he said that. Let's face it. Shawn Ray couldn't have won that Olympia anyway, so why is he bitching? He came in at 215, too heavy and not as sharp.

Being the most improved does not stop you from winning the whole contest, remember that.

Matarazzo said that when Coleman won his 6th Olympia, that was 3 years ago. In case you don't know, Coleman has 8 Olympias now. How much does yates have? Oh wait, it's 6.

Please save the excuses I've heard them all before  ;) Coleman has 8 Olympia whooppee typical Coleman fan thinks quantity superseeds quality

Ronnie has 8 Sandows now compare the quality of competition that Dorian faces over his tenure compared to Ronnie , Ah now this is where distance ourselves Ronnie had a very good field in 1998/99 but alas its all men that Dorian beat for years on end and while they were in much better shape , the caliber of competitor  went downhill after Yates retired and the ironic part is Ronnie was part of the competition when Dorian competed but where was he? lost in the back of the field , Dorian retired undefeated  ;) and Ronnie beats a past his prime Flex , Ray and Levrone , his main competition has been Jay Cutler and Dexter Jackson not to take anything from them but they'd be left for dead in the mid-90s !

So you have Ronnie with 2 more Sandows and a lot of close calls 98/01/02/04 half of his Olympia wins were lucky ones and Yates won ALL of the rounds in everyone of his Olympia wins in fact almost everyone with a perfect scores , Dorian was just in another league not just from Ronnie but everyone ! so seek comfort in numbers but when you examine his tenure a little closer the The Myth of Ronnie being invincible is exposed , just ask Gunther 2002 and Jay 2006 and and can't forget Gustavo Badell in the challenge round , I'll leave you with a quote from John Hotten's book Muscle that wraps up my point exactly

  Coleman had not replicated the dominance of Haney and Yates. He always seemed slightly vulnerable, protected as much by protocol as his physique.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #18774 on: January 01, 2007, 12:30:01 PM »
the reason that I keep saying that his conditioning was a myth was that his arms, pecs, delts, and quads hardly EVER looked really hard.

you need more than ripped abs and a ripped lower back to be the most conditioned of all time in my book...



I don't care why you keep saying its still retarded to say his conditioning & hardness are legendary , striations are GENETIC get this through your head , just because someone doesn't have striations doesn't mean he's NOT ripped , conditioning implies absence of fat & water in the body , Dorian's conditioning WHILE being huge is legendary and NOT his conditioning in a few areas his overall conditioning

This is exactly why I say you know nothing and you constantly verify it with each one of your ignorant posts , Dorian has a very striated chest , intercostals , obliques , lower lats , erector spinae , glutes , he has striations in all of these areas you gloss overthat , Dorian's muscles are separated as well with the exception of his upper quads and he tore his quad in 1994 so post that his separtion in his quad looked odd due to that fact but that does NOT mean for one second , he was holding water , his quads were soft , you need to learn much more , you'd be able to if you listened for a moment put pride won't let you .