Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

Dorian is better because of his better balance & proportions as well as lat-sweep and width , as far as the detail well that picture isn't really an accurate representation of Dorian's conditioning & detail is it? you ever think that Ronnie biceps/triceps & pecs are too big for his lats in this pic? and despite having the smaller waist you wouldn't know it VS Dorian , its no contest in the front latspread and never was.

that pic isn't even scaled properly, and Ronnie is still destroying Dorian in that comparison. Dorian is 1 inch shorter and arching his back, yet he looks taller. I don't know why you say no one can tell Ronnie's waist looks smaller. It certainly looks narrower to me. As for balance, Dorian's wide lats overpower everything else about him in that pic. His traps are non-existent and his chest looks small.

[NarcissisticDeity]

that pic isn't even scaled properly, and Ronnie is still destroying Dorian in that comparison. Dorian is 1 inch shorter and arching his back, yet he looks taller. I don't know why you say no one can tell Ronnie's waist looks smaller. It certainly looks narrower to me. As for balance, Dorian's wide lats overpower everything else about him in that pic. His traps are non-existent and his chest looks small.

I'm sure you believe this , and the say ignorance is bliss , so be happy my friend. 

[NeoSeminole]

I'm sure you believe this , and the say ignorance is bliss , so be happy my friend.

ha ha ha, you have nothing little girl. I'll assume that you concede I'm right with your lack of substance.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha, you have nothing little girl. I'll assume that you concede I'm right with your lack of substance.

Substance? I gave a explanation exactly why Dorian is better in that pose and your retort is excuses?  Kid you have nothing for me , like Hulkster and his bullshit lies , you think balance is a tie lol these are the people I'm forced to deal with lol again ignorance is bliss you and Hulkster must be the happiest people alive

This is Dorian's pose , any nonsense to the contrary will be dismissed

[NeoSeminole]

Substance? I gave a explanation exactly why Dorian is better in that pose and your retort is excuses? Kid you have nothing for me , like Hulkster and his bullshit lies , you think balance is a tie lol these are the people I'm forced to deal with lol again ignorance is bliss you and Hulkster must be the happiest people alive

This is Dorian's pose , any nonsense to the contrary will be dismissed

give me a break! Whenever someone posts a comparison and comments that Ronnie looks better based on that pic, you like to respond by posting other pics of Dorian where he's standing alone or make up some bullshit reason why Dorian would win that pose. I said Ronnie is beating Dorian in that comparison. What did you do? Post a different pic of him. No shit Dorian looks great standing alone in the front lat spread. However, you begin to see little flaws when you compare him to someone who looks equally as great in that pose. I honestly don't give a shit if you laugh at the idea that Ronnie and Dorian were tied in balance. Many people have already commented that Dorian's arms were too small for his body. You are just too delusional to listen. Please explain to me how a guy who has one of the widest backs of all time with 19-20 inch arms is considered balanced.

[NarcissisticDeity]

give me a break! Whenever someone posts a comparison and comments that Ronnie looks better based on that pic, you like to respond by posting other pics of Dorian where he's standing alone or make up some bullshit reason why Dorian would win that pose. I said Ronnie is beating Dorian in that comparison. What did you do? Post a different pic of him. No shit Dorian looks great standing alone in the front lat spread. However, you begin to see little flaws when you compare him to someone who looks equally as great in that pose. I honestly don't give a shit if you laugh at the idea that Ronnie and Dorian were tied in balance. Many people have already commented that Dorian's arms were too small for his body. You are just too delusional to listen. Please explain to me how a guy who has one of the widest backs of all time with 19-20 inch arms is considered balanced.

meltdown 

I'll use ANY pic of Dorian in the front latspread I so desire , because left to you dolts you'll post the worse pics and brag about how great Ronnie is , its a Camp-Coleman M.O. and hey you guys need to do that I understand you don't have much to work with 

And YOU said Ronnie is beating him and he's NOT its nonsense the front latspread is Dorian's pose and always will be , Ronnie was never known for an outstanding front latspread , or side chest or side triceps lol  hey wait or ab-thigh

And there is NO way , NO how they are tied in balance , not by a long shot , not by country mile and I don't care if you and your ignorant cronies believe his arms were to small for his torso , you posted slanted comparisons to ' prove ' your point and all it proves is you're an idiot

At his best Dorian's arms biceps/triceps/forearms are all in balance & proportion with the rest of his physique 1993 His ARMS were huge , please stop with the nonsense that they're to small , in certain poses they can look small but they're NOT

I've posted countless pic of Ronnie's imbalances from head to toe and that trumps all your ignorant claims to the contrary , no matter how much you try you're iceskating up-hill with these claims

and here are some more pictures of MY choosing of Dorian in the front latspread completely & utterly destroying anything Ronnie came up with over the course of his career and you can try the Hulkster claim that Dorian only looks good in this pose standing alone then I can shoot that down by saying he always received straight firsts in the pre-judging which means NO ONE could match him in this pose according to 11 independent judges , 11 judges all came to the same conclusion NO ONE could match Dorian in this pose ( or any other )

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian's pose

[NeoSeminole]

I'll use ANY pic of Dorian in the front latspread I so desire , because left to you dolts you'll post the worse pics and brag about how great Ronnie is , its a Camp-Coleman M.O. and hey you guys need to do that I understand you don't have much to work with 

And YOU said Ronnie is beating him and he's NOT its nonsense the front latspread is Dorian's pose and always will be , Ronnie was never known for an outstanding front latspread , or side chest or side triceps lol  hey wait or ab-thigh

And there is NO way , NO how they are tied in balance , not by a long shot , not by country mile and I don't care if you and your ignorant cronies believe his arms were to small for his torso , you posted slanted comparisons to ' prove ' your point and all it proves is you're an idiot

At his best Dorian's arms biceps/triceps/forearms are all in balance & proportion with the rest of his physique 1993 His ARMS were huge , please stop with the nonsense that they're to small , in certain poses they can look small but they're NOT

I've posted countless pic of Ronnie's imbalances from head to toe and that trumps all your ignorant claims to the contrary , no matter how much you try you're iceskating up-hill with these claims

and here are some more pictures of MY choosing of Dorian in the front latspread completely & utterly destroying anything Ronnie came up with over the course of his career and you can try the Hulkster claim that Dorian only looks good in this pose standing alone then I can shoot that down by saying he always received straight firsts in the pre-judging which means NO ONE could match him in this pose according to 11 independent judges , 11 judges all came to the same conclusion NO ONE could match Dorian in this pose ( or any other )

meltdown

[NarcissisticDeity]

meltdown

How bad do you want to be me? LOL You're stealing my intellectual property and now emulating my tags  they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery , so I'm flattered 

[suckmymuscle]

no, it shows that your posts are just like Suckmymuscle's:

ones that no one really reads anymore because they are so jam packed with misinformation.

  Oh, I really want to hear on this one! What misinformation, Hulky? Please make a list, and I'll address all of them. You're just bitter because I tore the physique of Ronnie apart, and demonstrated how Dorian would win in the end. Your reply? Utter silence. The same silece I got from Sperm after I brutally owned him in the lean body mass claims.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

  Oh, I really want to hear on this one! What misinformation, Hulky? Please make a list, and I'll address all of them. You're just bitter because I tore the physique of Ronnie apart, and demonstrated how Dorian would win in the end. Your reply? Utter silence. The same silece I got from Sperm after I brutally owned him in the lean body mass claims.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I knew Scuky would take his turn bitch-slapping Hulkster too lol he's projecting he gets busted with his own brand of misinformation and he blames everyone else for doing

Shawn Ray mentions dorian's 93 loss of hardess in the Flex mag review of the contest...and like ND loves to say, he was there!


This is blatant lie

[NeoSeminole]

How bad do you want to be me? LOL You're stealing my intellectual property and now emulating my tags they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery , so I'm flattered

so you're claiming you were the first person to use "meltdown" on getbig?

[NarcissisticDeity]

so you're claiming you were the first person to use "meltdown" on getbig?

Only when it happens  not as some pathetic retort attempt like you  kid

[suckmymuscle]

Explain please. We can't wait to hear your answer? Is yates better because he has a smaller chest, delts and arms? Is yates better because he is smoother? Is it because he is not striated at all? Or is it that his big lats over power his chest, delts and arms? You pick one.

  It's very simple. The purpose of this mandatory is to showcase three things:

 1. Latissimus development from the front - Dorian's lats are wider from the front, or at least look to be. Dorian wins.

 2. Taper - Ronnie has a better taper from the front in the relaxed round, because here taper is a functio of shoulder-to-waist ratio, but in the front lat spread the taper is created as a function of the lats, and Dorian's lats-to-waist ratio is superior. Point for Dorian.

 3. Complementary muscles - Dorian has better abdominals, traps and pecs. Ronnie only wins quads. Point for The Yates. Game over.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

I knew Scuky would take his turn bitch-slapping Hulkster too lol he's projecting he gets busted with his own brand of misinformation and he blames everyone else for doing

Shawn Ray mentions dorian's 93 loss of hardess in the Flex mag review of the contest...and like ND loves to say, he was there!


This is blatant lie

  I'm actually baiting him. Let's see if he falls for it. Owning the idiotic Coleman spooge-suckers is a hell of a lot of fun.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

I'll use ANY pic of Dorian in the front latspread I so desire , because left to you dolts you'll post the worse pics and brag about how great Ronnie is , its a Camp-Coleman M.O. and hey you guys need to do that I understand you don't have much to work with

I never put a restriction on what pics you can use. I was strictly talking about how you always change subjects when I comment on a comparison. So you can stfu with your little self-righteous monologue.

And YOU said Ronnie is beating him and he's NOT its nonsense the front latspread is Dorian's pose and always will be , Ronnie was never known for an outstanding front latspread , or side chest or side triceps lol  hey wait or ab-thigh

Lee Haney's front lat spread was more impressive than Dorian's b/c of his equal width and smaller waist. Ronnie also has equal width to Dorian and a narrower waist. You're the first person to suggest that Ronnie was never known for an outstanding front lat spread. It may not be as famous as his rear lat spread or most muscular, but make no mistake about it. This isn't to say that his front lat spread wasn't great, rather he looks even more impressive in other poses. I could say the same about Dorian. He was never known for an outstanding front lat spread, front double biceps, side chest or most muscular. When people talk about Dorian, they usually refer to his rear lat spread, ab-and-thigh and side triceps.

And there is NO way , NO how they are tied in balance , not by a long shot , not by country mile and I don't care if you and your ignorant cronies believe his arms were to small for his torso , you posted slanted comparisons to ' prove ' your point and all it proves is you're an idiot

keep believing what you want. <<patiently waits for ND to post twisting one-arm shots of Dorian>>

[NarcissisticDeity]

I never put a restriction on what pics you can use. I was strictly talking about how you always change subjects when I comment on a comparison. So you can stfu with your little self-righteous monologue.

Lee Haney's front lat spread was more impressive than Dorian's b/c of his equal width and smaller waist. Ronnie also has equal width to Dorian and a narrower waist. You're the first person to suggest that Ronnie was never known for an outstanding front lat spread. It may not be as famous as his rear lat spread or most muscular, but make no mistake about it. This isn't to say that his front lat spread wasn't great, rather he looks even more impressive in other poses. I could say the same about Dorian. He was never known for an outstanding front lat spread, front double biceps, side chest or most muscular. When people talk about Dorian, they usually refer to his rear lat spread, ab-and-thigh and side triceps.

keep believing what you want. <<patiently waits for ND to post twisting one-arm shots of Dorian>>

You could only attempt to put ' restrictions ' on the pics I use and then I would laugh at you and I did comment on the specific comparison

And Haney did have a fantastic front latspread , him and Dorian are arguably the best in this pose , please don't add Ronnie into this illustrious pair it offends my intelligence and you come to the conclusion that Haney is better in this pose VS Dorian but thats simply not true , in 1991 everyone was commenting on Dorian being the first man who could match Lee in this pose in terms of width and size , despite being 10 pounds lighter

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that in 1993 Dorian surpassed Haney in terms of size & width not to mention balance , thickness , hardness and density I mean its not contest in this particular pose and Ronnie was never known for this pose he really wasn't he rarely executes the pose effectively and he looks odd in it and why? because of his balance issues and because Dorian meets this better than Ronnie

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


You may pic out ' advantages ' you think makes this pose but there is criteria and Dorian has the edge in bulk ( depending on year ) balance , density and conditioning , so lets entertain your nonsense for a moment that Ronnie has a better front latspread from a structural & ' aesthetic ' point of view , whats the sense if you're down , density , balance , and conditioning?  I don't think Ronnie looked good in this shot , he has very small calves , gigantic quads ,  a small waist , good lats gigantic biceps/triceps in relation small forearms , then factor in the other criteria and its easy to see why Ronnie can't compete in this pose or any other

You post a pic from 1994/1997 to prove a point and you failed especially when you have to lower yourself to these lengths you admit defeat I don't need twisting shots I know his arms were huge at his best 

[pobrecito]

The thickness of dorian's lats in this pose is mind-boggling, not even a 305lb Coleman comes close.

[IceCold]

Watch the pics again. The DVD caps are closer in color to the VHS caps than the youtube caps, so you have no argument now.

You say they are not fake, then say they are fake because of color? It's really impossible to get through to you, really. It's not that hard to understand.

you're right - the dvd clips match the vhs clips - from youtube, not google.

nothing on this fucking planet matches the google clips - post any other source to prove me wrong.

you cant do that. 

i can post at least 4 different pictures from 4 different sources that will pretty much match up, but you cant post 1 picture and 1 source to match the google clips.

explain that??/

[NarcissisticDeity]

you're right - the dvd clips match the vhs clips - from youtube, not google.

nothing on this fucking planet matches the google clips - post any other source to prove me wrong.

you cant do that. 

Would the real Ronnie please stand up , please stand up , please stand up lol when is ' new ' Ronnie due?

[IceCold]

and you are wrong as always.

Shawn specifically mentions that dorian was 'bigger but not necessarily better" in the flex article. 

read it or jerk off to it or whatever. its there.

honestly, who really cares what shawn says.

he was always a sore loser and constantly bitched about the judging, whether he lost to dorian or ronnie.

even in 98, as good as ronnie was, shawn still bitched.

he said that ronnie only one bc he was the most improved, not the best onstage.  

[NarcissisticDeity]

honestly, who really cares what shawn says.

he was always a sore loser and constantly bitched about the judging, whether he lost to dorian or ronnie.

even in 98, as good as ronnie was, shawn still bitched.

he said that ronnie only one bc he was the most improved, not the best onstage. 

He lied and then that comment was his damage control , after he was busted for this nonsense

Shawn Ray mentions dorian's 93 loss of hardess in the Flex mag review of the contest...and like ND loves to say, he was there!

[Iceman1981]

Dorian is better because of his better balance & proportions as well as lat-sweep and width , as far as the detail well that picture isn't really an accurate representation of Dorian's conditioning & detail is it? you ever think that Ronnie biceps/triceps & pecs are too big for his lats in this pic? and despite having the smaller waist you wouldn't know it VS Dorian , its no contest in the front latspread and never was.

balance & proportions? lol. nice try. Ronnie is killing him in the front latspread. yates was always smooth looking in this pose. Always had a small chest and arms because of his overpowering lats. I just don't know why you can't see that, but then again I'm waisting my time trying to explain. You will never change your mind.

[IceCold]

ICEMAN,

I ASKED YOU TO POST ANY SOURCE THAT COULD MATCH RONNIE'S COLOR TO THE 99 GOOGLE CLIPS.

WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING THIS?

THE REASON IS BC NOTHING ELSE MATCHES THE GOOGLE CLIPS BC THEY ARE FUCKING FAKE.

[NarcissisticDeity]

balance & proportions? lol. nice try. Ronnie is killing him in the front latspread. yates was always smooth looking in this pose. Always had a small chest and arms because of his overpowering lats. I just don't know why you can't see that, but then again I'm waisting my time trying to explain. You will never change your mind.

Like I said before ignorance is bliss , so be happy my friend