but you can't have an impressive back double bi (in terms of the back) without them.
Its like having great biceps with no triceps: your arms loose impressiveness.
When I see a Yates back double bi, it would look great if he had no arms - seriously. the poor arms ruin the look of the back for me.
And, to me, the calves are not a direct component of how good your back is.
the arms are.(since I know ND will chime in about how Ronnie's back double bi is not as good because of his calves).
One you keep insisting that Yates has no arms , thats a phallacy , his arms in his primes were perfect , you're mistaking his lack of bicep peaks as weak arms , and thats just plain wrong
And I'm sorry Hulkster the judges specifically ask for one leg back and to flex the calf while doing the backdouble bicep pose , so while Dorian doesn't have highpeaked biceps , Ronnie doesn't have any calve development , no seperation between or development of the gastrocnemius or the soleus , and the judges are asking to see this when the calve is flexed , so while you may not think its a big deal it becomes one when the guy you're standing next too has some of the best diamond shapped calves ever !!
Ronnie has an awesome back doublebicep shot , he has a great back , awesome biceps , great development & seperation , but when you stand him next to Yates some things become apparent , Ronnie's better biceps , and his gigantic ass and his lack of calves , the whole shot is also lacking balance & proportion
When Dorian's backdouble bicep shot is taken straight-on you can clearly see his biceps , while NOT as great as Ronnie's they're not as bad as your claiming to be , here are a few shots of his back straight on and you can clearly see his biceps !!