Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[sculpture]

Which textbook? Yours? The one where you mould and change it where you see fit. How about haney's back double bicep. Poor legs, poor calves, lack of christmas tree definition, "middleweight" arms.

I have a sneaky feeling your entire judgement is clouded by bias and a dislike of coleman.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Which textbook? Yours? The one where you mould and change it where you see fit. How about haney's back double bicep. Poor legs, poor calves, lack of christmas tree definition, "middleweight" arms.

I have a sneaky feeling your entire judgement is clouded by bias and a dislike of coleman.

Its called judging criteria , and they follow guidelines , competetiors are judged on , muscularity , seperation , balance & proportion , shape , size , posing , symmetry , flaws , etc , and its usually the guy who covers most of these bases wins the contest !!

[pumpster]

Its called judging criteria , and they follow guidelines , competetiors are judged on , muscularity , seperation , balance & proportion , shape , size , posing , symmetry , flaws , etc , and its usually the guy who covers most of these bases wins the contest !!

Funny that such a data-nerd should talk about using serious criteria when he doesn't do it himself. hahahahahhahaahhaha

The only shots where Yates has more size are those black & whites, where he was also PUFFY with less DEFINITION:

[sculpture]

Muscularity - coleman
Seperation - coleman by a country mile
Balance and proportion/symmetry - choice between no arms or no calves. I know which one id choose
Shape - coleman (duh!)
Size - coleman
Flaws - both have them, again personal preference
Posing - yates

Result, according to your own criteria ronnie is better.

[pumpster]

Muscularity - coleman
Seperation - coleman by a country mile
Balance and proportion/symmetry - choice between no arms or no calves. I know which one id choose
Shape - coleman (duh!)
Size - coleman
Flaws - both have them, again personal preference
Posing - yates

KEEPING IT SIMPLE:

Yates:      density, calves

Coleman:  everything else


Pssst...average calves are not nearly as significant as mediocre bis..to fans OR to judges.

[dr.chimps]

If, as Mindspin suggested, you two guys (H'ster & ND) are to be 'judges' for the 1st GetBig BB contest, are you two going to clown it up for months and a 100 page thread before rendering a decision!?

/I'm serious. This 109 pager is ridiculous. Just bury the hachet and agree to disagree. Do it for the children. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Funny that such a data-nerd should talk about using serious criteria when he doesn't do it himself. hahahahahhahaahhaha

The only shots where Yates has more size are those black & whites, where he was also PUFFY with less DEFINITION:

Yates only has more size than who Coleman? its widely acknowleged that ronnie's best Mr Olympia apearence is the 1998 Mr Olympia where he was 249lbs and hard as nails , Dorian's best was 1993  and he was 257lbs hard as nails , so who had more size? plus Dorian is one inch shorther than Ronnie  

Ronnie in 1999 was 257lbs like Yates so the size aspect was moot , however , Ronnie was as hard at 257lbs as he was at 249lbs and he wasn't as hard at 257lbs as Dorian was  

[pumpster]

Yates only has more size than who Coleman? its widely acknowleged that ronnie's best Mr Olympia apearence is the 1998 Mr Olympia where he was 249lbs and hard as nails , Dorian's best was 1993  and he was 257lbs hard as nails , so who had more size? plus Dorian is one inch shorther than Ronnie

More data-obsession. Here's what i think about those numbers and comparative size:

[NarcissisticDeity]

Muscularity - coleman
Seperation - coleman by a country mile
Balance and proportion/symmetry - choice between no arms or no calves. I know which one id choose
Shape - coleman (duh!)
Size - coleman
Flaws - both have them, again personal preference
Posing - yates

Result, according to your own criteria ronnie is better.

Musculairty- Coleman? lol Ronnie in 98 was hard but no one matched Yates for hardness & size
Seperation - Coleman? lol how about his calves? nope , how about his lower back? nope , how about abs? nope , Dorian has medicore upperquad seperation , other than that not much else
Balance & proportion - please not even close
Shape Coleman? lol in some muscles yes in others no !! calves? nope , glutes ? nope , sidehead tricep? nope , abs? nope , forearms? nope , back? push , hams push , quads , Ronnies , biceps , Ronnie , in some muscles Ronnie has the edge and others Yates so basically its a push
Size - Coleman? lol not at his best , at Ronnie's personal best Olympia he was 249lbs , and in 1999 he was the same as Yates 257lbs , however he wasn't as hard and Dorian is an inch shorter so Yates has the size & density advantage
Flaws - Ronnie abs , calves , balance & proportion , Yates biceps , wide wasit , , Yates on this one
Posing - Dorian

I corrected it for you  

[NarcissisticDeity]

If, as Mindspin suggested, you two guys (H'ster & ND) are to be 'judges' for the 1st GetBig BB contest, are you two going to clown it up for months and a 100 page thread before rendering a decision!?

/I'm serious. This 109 pager is ridiculous. Just bury the hachet and agree to disagree. Do it for the children. 

ironically enough thats why I started this thread but it takes two to make that happen and I was more than willing lol then Camp-Coleman starts with the truces are for losers comments and Hulkster said no , so now here we are lol

[sculpture]

Musculairty- Coleman? lol Ronnie in 98 was hard but no one matched Yates for hardness & size
Seperation - Coleman? lol how about his calves? nope , how about his lower back? nope , how about abs? nope , Dorian has medicore upperquad seperation , other than that not much else
Balance & proportion - please not even close
Shape Coleman? lol in some muscles yes in others no !! calves? nope , glutes ? nope , sidehead tricep? nope , abs? nope , forearms? nope , back? push , hams push , quads , Ronnies , biceps , Ronnie , in some muscles Ronnie has the edge and others Yates so basically its a push
Size - Coleman? lol not at his best , at Ronnie's personal best Olympia he was 249lbs , and in 1999 he was the same as Yates 257lbs , however he wasn't as hard and Dorian is an inch shorter so Yates has the size & density advantage
Flaws - Ronnie abs , calves , balance & proportion , Yates biceps , wide wasit , , Yates on this one
Posing - Dorian

I corrected it for you  

After 110 pages and numerous other threads you've finally exceeded yourself ND and truly taken the biscuit.

I think i'll copy and paste this and save it to my hardrive because this is utter comedy gold.

I'll use it from time to time just to remind you.

Oh wait, in classic ND style - "lol".

[pumpster]

Oh wait, in classic ND style - "lol".

(nervous laughter)

[NeoSeminole]

You know this argument is over when the Yates nut-huggers resort to posting pics of Ronnie at his worst to Dorian at his best. Funny enough, Ronnie still holds his own in most of those pics.









I'd like to see Dorian attempt this pose :-)

[sculpture]

That rear lat spread is absurd. Truly the best example to date of such a pose.

As for his back double bi, all is see is heavy weight arms, no calves and too big an ass.

Poor pose for ronnie. Not good at all.

[pumpster]

this argument is over when the Yates nut-huggers resort to posting pics of Ronnie at his worst to Dorian at his best. Funny enough, Ronnie still holds his own in most of those pics.

Yates in "peak" form is underwhelming...

I present you with a peak tier-B bricklayer..

[pumpster]

Ronnie is so much better than Dorian I'm actually surprised people are able to make a serious debate out of this comparison.

Could NOT agree more. ND's biggest accomplishment has been taking this seriously the entire time; given his mania, it's no effort whatsoever actually.

A combo of too much free time & the gullability to take all of Uncle Joe Weider's contest results seriously.

Looking at this pic, Yates was 3rd place out of 3..not even close.

[MikeThaMachine]

A non bias opinion

Musculairty- Dorian
Seperation - Coleman
Balance & proportion (Symmetry) - Dorian
Shape - Coleman
Size - Too close,Tie
Flaws - Equally flawed,Tie
Posing - Dorian

[pumpster]

A non bias opinion

Musculairty- Dorian
Seperation - Coleman
Balance & proportion (Symmetry) - Dorian
Shape - Coleman
Size - Too close,Tie
Flaws - Equally flawed,Tie
Posing - Dorian

Non-biased? hahahahha

Just to help you with that..


Yates:      density, calves

Coleman:  everything else


...average calves are not nearly as significant as mediocre bis..to fans OR to judges.

[MikeThaMachine]

Non-biased? hahahahha

Just to help you with that..


Yates:      density, calves

Coleman:  everything else


...average calves are not nearly as significant as mediocre bis..to fans OR to judges.

Well dumbass unlike you i am not a nut hugger for either side and don't have a firm stand on who i think is better therefore i am non biased you retard

[pumpster]

unlike you i am not a nut hugger

You're claiming Yates has more size & muscularity-with those arms and markedly smaller thighs and lats..bend over turd boy, Yates wants his turn..hahahahhahha

[NarcissisticDeity]

The veiw that the Coleman-nut-huggers are used to !!

[pumpster]

The veiw that the Coleman-nut-huggers are used to

Scary preference and choice of pics..may have a closet case..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Scary preference and choice of pics..may have a closet case..

lmfao you're one to talk !! 

[alexxx]

ND as much as I admire your contributions.. you are fighting a losing battle. Coleman is so far ahead in every aspect of the game you can't even see Yates.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND as much as I admire your contributions.. you are fighting a losing battle. Coleman is so far ahead in every aspect of the game you can't even see Yates.

Alexx I know Coleman is only keeping the Olympia throne warm until you take it from him , but I respectively disagree !!