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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2925 on: June 03, 2006, 08:11:38 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2926 on: June 03, 2006, 08:12:39 AM »
Hulkster this isn't even a rearlatspread and it just destroyes Ronnie's !! notice the difference? Ronnie's gigantic ass that sticks out , of yes thats superior shape lol and look at Ronnie's diamond shaped superior calves  ::) Dorian better balance & proportion , even with a wider waist his taper is mindboggling !!

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« Reply #2927 on: June 03, 2006, 08:13:41 AM »
That Dorian ab and thigh is amazing.  Balance from head to toe just can't be faulted, perfect proportion and a top to toe dryness that no one has matched.

Think that was 96 Suck?

Ah yes, Mr Devon Miles.

  Yes, that was 96. You can see it by the number 12 on his trunks. As Dorian said on the post-Olympia interview that year, when they tested for diuretics:

  "My conditioning was good, but I became overly concerned with dryness and came in flat."

  Can you believe that? :o That is "flat" ::) to him. And to think he was 255 lbs, with such superb balance, taper and etchiness!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2928 on: June 03, 2006, 08:15:19 AM »
See, you can tell that ND is getting frustrated because he can't win using real poses and videos with the peak ronnie, so he just starts posting random gut shots ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2929 on: June 03, 2006, 08:16:20 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2930 on: June 03, 2006, 08:17:08 AM »
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That second pic he is 264lbs and this one he is 247lbs and gut , gut and more gut !!

More side shots, more numbers after I've already explained to you that both of them had the front-back issue, but Yates ALSO always had gut problems from the FRONT thanks to thick side-to-side waist issues coupled with less lat width = lameass taper..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2931 on: June 03, 2006, 08:18:06 AM »
See, you can tell that ND is getting frustrated because he can't win using real poses and videos with the peak ronnie, so he just starts posting random gut shots ::)

We're up eight to nothing , I'm ahead of the game !! you said the gut shots were him of when he was 300lbs , so I schooled you and posted some of the course of his whole career , 247lbs gut , 257lbs , gut , 264lbs gut , 287lbs gut , 296lbs gut all onstage durring contests lol who's frustrated ? lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2932 on: June 03, 2006, 08:19:35 AM »
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See, you can tell that ND is getting frustrated because he can't win using real poses and videos with the peak ronnie, so he just starts posting random gut shots

We're up eight to nothing

It's called DESPERATION; starts posting gut pics that Yates loses at and nervously starts with endless numbers: the mark of a novice..

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Coleman > Yates in a blowout

Coleman: 8 Olympias
Yates:     6 Olympias

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2933 on: June 03, 2006, 08:20:17 AM »
Hulkster, I think you are really starting to show your lack of knowledge on what bodybuilding should be judged on.  Vascularity is not and should not be a factor, if it was then Paul dillet would have the greatest chest of all time.  Veins merely hide lack of separation.  AS ND said, the ab and this should be with one leg forward  - either leg straight or knee bent - so both ways are correct.  Ronnie would have a great taper but his ridiculously short torso obscures this.  How can you say Dorian has no detail when I can hardly see a sign of Ronnie's sartorius - the longest muscle in the body?

Pumpster, your posts aren't even worth a response.  

Ronnie's quads are very similar to those of Anthony Clark by the way.

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see you are starting to make the same mistakes that ND makes: you cannot isolate specific traits and parts.

Of course vascualarity by itself doesn't mean much, as you say, it that was the case then Paul would have been a 5 time mr. O.


However, when you COMBINE increased vascularity with better shape, cuts and equal size, it adds impressiveness


ND made this foolish mistake when he would go on about how because dorian had better triceps and forearms, that he had better overall arms.

But you can't do that.

You have to look at the whole picture.  bodybuilding is judged on a number of different factors that all combine to give an overall look.

It is not judged by isolating specific traits, scoring them, and then totaling the scores.

You have to look at everything at once.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2934 on: June 03, 2006, 08:21:32 AM »
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you are starting to make the same mistakes that ND makes: you cannot isolate specific traits and parts.

Broad generalizations are indicative of novices. Also desperate.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2935 on: June 03, 2006, 08:26:19 AM »


You have to look at everything at once.



Agreed, and when you do, Dorian destroys Ronnie.  Thanks for the sermon by the way - I can see this stuff really gets to you son.  LOL.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2936 on: June 03, 2006, 08:27:38 AM »
see you are starting to make the same mistakes that ND makes: you cannot isolate specific traits and parts.

Of course vascualarity by itself doesn't mean much, as you say, it that was the case then Paul would have been a 5 time mr. O.


However, when you COMBINE increased vascularity with better shape, cuts and equal size, it adds impressiveness


ND made this foolish mistake when he would go on about how because dorian had better triceps and forearms, that he had better overall arms.

But you can't do that.

You have to look at the whole picture.  bodybuilding is judged on a number of different factors that all combine to give an overall look.

It is not judged by isolating specific traits, scoring them, and then totaling the scores.

You have to look at everything at once.



Yes the judges pic the guy who has the best X-frame and who has the most veins and if you've read anything about judging criteria excess vascularity is frowned upon , it distracts from the phsyique , just like excessive tattoos , Hulkster I know more about the judging criteria than you do this is plainly obvious

Dorian beat pleanty if guys with better X-frames better vasuclirty , better shape , better arms , better quads , better delts , better taper , better size , you ever wonder why? why would the judges place Dorian above everyone else? if your logic of him being overrated is true? how could he win 17 Pro contest being so mediocre? lol how could he score straight first victories in all of his Olympias? lol you have nothing to counter that with besides bias

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2937 on: June 03, 2006, 08:28:01 AM »
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AGREED; THIS ISN'T BODYBUILDING. OLIVA & SCHWARZENEGGER SAID SAME..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2938 on: June 03, 2006, 08:30:00 AM »
AGREED; THIS ISN'T BODYBUILDING. OLIVA & SCHWARZENEGGER SAID SAME..

Oliva may have but Arnold did NOT get your facts straight before I own you again !!  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2939 on: June 03, 2006, 08:34:37 AM »
Scwarzenegger & Yates never seemed to get along, in part because of things Schwarzenegger said about Yates' physique and the undesirable directions he was taking BB at the time. Right out of Weider mags in the mid-90s, actually.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2940 on: June 03, 2006, 08:37:48 AM »
Scwarzenegger & Yates never seemed to get along, in part because of things Schwarzeneggre said about Yates' physique and the undesirable directions he was taking BB at the time. Right out of Weider mags in the mid-90s, actually.

Wrong , wrong and wrong once again , I have the quotes from what Arnold said and it wasn't about his phsyique , so if you want to directly contradict what I'm saying lets go because I can provide facts and you can only provide fantasy!!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2941 on: June 03, 2006, 08:38:22 AM »
Sadly, the ab-thigh is one of Yates ONLY strenghts..he's right up there with the equally-legendary Dickerson.. ::)

  Actually, Dorian was dominant in ALL mandatory poses, which explains why he won all his Olympias with straight-first scores from the judges. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2942 on: June 03, 2006, 08:39:32 AM »
no one said the judges were judging things properly.

Yates won because he was bigger than everyone he faced, not necessarily better.

Sure Paul was bigger, but he had no back.

Had Shawn and Kevin been as big as Yates, Yates would have placed third or fourth instead of first.

That much is pretty obvious. Yates dominated because of quantity, not quality:


this is obvious most of the time you see Yates standing next to fellow pros..



how many shots do I have to post to get my point across? ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2943 on: June 03, 2006, 08:41:35 AM »
but what you are not realizing is that for all the supposed dryness and etchiness than dorian had, Ronnie was STILL MORE DETAILED from head to toe (except for the lower back).











pose after pose, angle after angle, ronnie displayed more striations and seperation that Dorian ever did (except for the lower back and probably abs).

But as far as the entire rest of his physique goes (quads, glutes, hamss, chest, biceps, triceps, deltoids, you name it) Dorian was lacking in detail compared to Ronnie.

so, what difference does it make if Dorian was "harder" than Ronnie if he didn't have the genetically blessed detail to show off?

 I mean, look at the shots I posted, for all the dryness that dorian supposedly had, ronnie is more detailed in EVERY ONE of them.  When you compbine this with fact that ronnie had a superior taper while still displaying the same size and width that dorian had, its no contest.

so, dryness is a silly argument.  It doesn't hold up to the scrutiny of pics and videos.

sure, it may sound good on paper, but without pics and videos, it means nothing.

And when you look at the pics and vids, you quickly see what I am saying.



  Wrong. In he boom pic, Dorian is clearly more detailed AND denser AND dryer than ronnie. Dorian just rapes Ronnie in that back double biceps comparison. :o

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2944 on: June 03, 2006, 08:41:37 AM »
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Wrong , wrong and wrong once again , I have the quotes from what Arnold said and it wasn't about his phsyique

You have been consistently incorrect in analysis & pics..Oliva said the same, let's see how you try to take this one on a tangent, as usual..hahhahahahhahaha

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"Yates has no arms and the belly of a cow"..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2945 on: June 03, 2006, 08:43:52 AM »
 Actually, Dorian was dominant in ALL mandatory poses, which explains why he won all his Olympias with straight-first scores from the judges. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2946 on: June 03, 2006, 08:44:15 AM »
no one said the judges were judging things properly.

Yates won because he was bigger than everyone he faced, not necessarily better.

Sure Paul was bigger, but he had no back.

Had Shawn and Kevin been as big as Yates, Yates would have placed third or fourth instead of first.

That much is pretty obvious. Yates dominated because of quantity, not quality:


this is obvious most of the time you see Yates standing next to fellow pros..



how many shots do I have to post to get my point across? ::)

LOL - you have no point.  MELTDOWN!!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2947 on: June 03, 2006, 08:46:57 AM »
More brilliance..in exactly NONE of these pics does Yates look like the winner..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2948 on: June 03, 2006, 08:48:24 AM »
More brilliance..in ALL of these pics Yates was the winner!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2949 on: June 03, 2006, 08:50:59 AM »
More pics of Yates solidly in control of 3rd or 4th place: