Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

see, if you guys had any clue what you are talking about with all this ad populum bullshit, you would know that there are pefectly non-fallacious uses of the ad populum argument.

Ronnie being better than dorian is one of them.

its like trying to argue that 2+2=5 and saying that you must be right because everyone who says that it is 4 is arguing 'ad populum' and have a weak argument

its no different.

[NarcissisticDeity]

the fact that hulkster and icmean think ronnie has the best of everything shows their biased ignorance.

hulkster has been ridiculed countless times for his nuthugging and i even started several best of bodypart threads to prove them wrong.

the entire board laughed their asses off when these clowns came on professing ronnie had the best of everything - especially delts and legs.

(i guess having gyno doesnt affect ronnie's chest, but everyone else).

Well its pretty much a foregone conculsion that they're zealots and who's Dorian Hatred is only equaled by their Coleman groupie-love .

[pumpster]

You're the most ignorant person on the whole internet ( concerning bodybuilding ) and again you're so starving for retaliation you want it by proxy , you want others to fight your battle for you thats cowardice plain & simple , hence why you seek comfort in numbers , see argument ad populum .

This from a nerd with no real-world BB experience, who had his skinny know-it-all ass handed to him by gh15 LOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

see, if you guys had any clue what you are talking about with all this ad populum bullshit, you would know that there are pefectly non-fallacious uses of the ad populum argument.

Ronnie being better than dorian is one of them.

its like trying to argue that 2+2=5 and saying that you must be right because everyone who says that it is 4 is arguing 'ad populum' and have a weak argument

its no different.

lmfao very poor analogy 2+2 = 4 is a fact NOT a majority opinion its a provable fact not everyone agrees with me so we're right , 92% of American's believe in some type of God that means God exists lol again weak argument based on numbers NOT facts and your " University " educated  you're not making a case for Canadian collegeslol

[Hulkster]

based on how badly 93 yates got crushed compared to 99 Ronnie in the polls, its pretty damn close to fact in the bodybuilding community.

 

there is always going to be one or two deviants that will argue otherwise..

[IceCold]

This from a nerd with no real-world BB experience, who had his skinny know-it-all ass handed to him by gh15 LOL

this coming from a training mod who gives out training advice while not even going to a gym, but uses a bowflex.

if that isnt the definition of pathetic, then please tell me what is.

(other than hulkster's obession about ronnie). 

[NarcissisticDeity]

This from a nerd with no real-world BB experience, who had his skinny know-it-all ass handed to him by gh15 LOL

The irony of you saying anyone has ' no real-world ' bodybuilding experience     this is the master of the Bow Flex which isn't FYI bodybuilding lol and I'm not skinny in the least I'm 5'11" and weigh 230 pounds and gh15 lmfao I crushed him in the Steve Reeves thread just like I owned you many times in this and other threads , stick to posting pics and keep your mouth shut like the people who know what they're talking about converse and you sit down 

[IceCold]

based on how badly 93 yates got crushed compared to 99 Ronnie in the polls, its pretty damn close to fact in the bodybuilding community.

 

there is always going to be one or two deviants that will argue otherwise..

why do you keep ignorning the fact that i listed polls from ronnies best years and he lost to yates in those polls.  you keep referring to the ONLY source that matches your view.

explain yourself.

[NarcissisticDeity]

based on how badly 93 yates got crushed compared to 99 Ronnie in the polls, its pretty damn close to fact in the bodybuilding community.

 

there is always going to be one or two deviants that will argue otherwise..

The fact you put so much faith on these polls again shows your ignorance , you're basing an entire opinion of limited criteria , did you factor in the quotes from many people who all reached the same opinion Pictures don't do Dorian justice ? he must be seen in person ? of course not you dismiss that shows your bias , shows your not interested in an accurate comparison , just like Neo's ' comparisons ' which are self admittedly NOT perfect just like you ignoring pro-yates quotes , you're not into accuracy out of fear.

[RocketSwitch625]

Yates' career started on a high and ended on a high. Coleman's career was the complete opposite. LOL

[IceCold]

hulkster,

we're still waiting for your response on why only acknowledge the polls were ronnie win?

[Hulkster]

 where are these polls? what pics were used? I would love to see them LOL

because we all know that if good and fair comparisons are used like Iceman posted, its game over yates.

by a landslide.

each and every time.

show the respondents the incredible physique Ronnie displayed in 99 vs 93 yates, and you get the SAME result EVERY TIME.

deal with it.

learn from it.

[Hulkster]

why do you keep ignorning the fact that i listed polls from ronnies best years and he lost to yates in those polls.  you keep referring to the ONLY source that matches your view.

explain yourself.

polls are useless unless they provide excellents shots of each competitor to use as a basis for voting.

you can't just say who is better.

which year?

which condition?

at what weight? etc etc.

For example, you say you have polls where dorian won over an 01 Ronnie.

which 01? His Arnold classic form (amazing) or his olympia form (like shit)?

you don't seem to understand just how good Iceman's polls were on all those boards because they did what no other polls do: provide great evidence from both sides and let the fans decided fairly.

Iceman's polls were excellent because they gave great and fair representations of dorian and Ronnie at their bests.

and look what happened.

its a result that you may try and avoid dealing with, but its the opinion of people 'in the know' out there.

you clowns are not.

Study this post. you might learn something.

[IceCold]

polls are useless unless they provide excellents shots of each competitor to use as a basis for voting.

you can't just say who is better.

which year?

which condition?

at what weight? etc etc.

Iceman's polls were excellent because they gave great and fair representations of dorian and Ronnie at their bests.

and look what happened.

its a result that you may try and avoid dealing with, but its the opinion of people 'in the know' out there.

you clowns are not.

of course there were pictures, who would really vote on a poll without pics?

you'll do everything to discredit anything when it doesnt agree with you.

more excuses.

[Hulkster]

of course there were pictures, who would really vote on a poll with pics?

more excuses.

LOL I would love to see these shots.

was Ronnie even in contest shape? or was he in offseason shape like the in the polls at MD?

 

[IceCold]

its a result that you may try and avoid dealing with, but its the opinion of people 'in the know' out there.

you clowns are not.

Study this post. you might learn something.

explain this:

you keep referring to those people "in the know".

pumpster voted on those polls.  the guy gives training advice yet doesnt even go to a gym.

see the above pics of the his home gym/bowflex.

this is someone who you consider "in the know"



you study it, bc you are wrong as usual.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO VOTED ON THOSE POLLS AND WHAT KINDA PEOPLE THEY ARE.  FOR ALL WE KNOW, IT COULD BE MORE PEOPLE LIKE PUMPSTER.

trully pathetic.

[IceCold]

LOL I would love to see these shots.

was Ronnie even in contest shape? or was he in offseason shape like the in the polls at MD?

 

more excuses.

[NarcissisticDeity]

more excuses.

Just like the excuses they made when Ronnie himself said Dorian had the freakiest back he ever seen !! and the best side chest pose and that was July 2003 !!

[Master Blaster]

report thread to moderator

[IceCold]

Just like the excuses they made when Ronnie himself said Dorian had the freakiest back he ever seen !! and the best side chest pose and that was July 2003 !!

he was being humble.

 

but yet told jay to be reborn with better genetics on a live ppv.

meanwhile, do you think could be laughing any harder right now at ronnie?

[NarcissisticDeity]

he was being humble.

 

but yet told jay to be reborn with better genetics on a live ppv.

meanwhile, do you think could be laughing any harder right now at ronnie?

lol humble they'll quotes Yates when he says the judges would PROBABLY go with Ronnie just based a size advantage but dismiss something I've said all along , when Dorian says outright he would have better conditioning and balance , they cherry pick what they like and dismiss the rest which is a sign of ignorance and bias .

Jay got his revenge in 06 for 01 Ronnie started to believe his own MD press lol he was an awesome bodybuilding at one point but he needs someone dead honest with him in his camp , it reminds me of the 01 Olympia when he said he improved his symmetry by shaving 3" off his waist all the while looking pregnant , and then the claim he has no injuries , he's delusional seriously.

[IceCold]

lol humble they'll quotes Yates when he says the judges would PROBABLY go with Ronnie just based a size advantage but dismiss something I've said all along , when Dorian says outright he would have better conditioning and balance , they cherry pick what they like and dismiss the rest which is a sign of ignorance and bias .

taken 100 % out of context.

dorian was asked that question if he came back currently in 2004 - and he said that the judges would choose ronnie.

did he mean at his best?

of course not, as no former champion will admit defeat.

just another example of the hyprocrisy and BS - this was from the same article that neo has and refuses to posts the qoutes where half the people interview would say yates would win.

seriously, hulkster, if many or at least half the people did not think dorian would beat ronnie, why run a special on it?

was there one with haney vs. dorian or any other bber.

nope.

[NarcissisticDeity]

taken 100 % out of context.

dorian was asked that question if he came back currently in 2004 - and he said that the judges would choose ronnie.

did he mean at his best?

of course not, as no former champion will admit defeat.

just another example of the hyprocrisy and BS - this was from the same article that neo has and refuses to posts the qoutes where half the people interview would say yates would win.

seriously, hulkster, if many or at least half the people did not think dorian would beat ronnie, why run a special on it?

was there one with haney vs. dorian or any other bber.

nope.

Dorian did say that the judges would probably go with Ronnie only based on a size advantage and after being pressed and saying it was very hard for him to say , I'll bet the farm that he would say at his best he would beat Ronnie 98/99/01 .

[NarcissisticDeity]

" I don't want to take anything away from Jay , because he was in awesome shape. He looked good and deserved the placing he got m but he wasn't going to beat me -- not in this life time . Even when I'm not in top condition , I'm still the best. "

Flex Feb 2002

Those words didn't taste good 4 years later did they Ronnie? 

[Andre Nickatina]

Ronnie! wins