Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Shockwave]

All I see is Dorian annihilating everyone.

[pumpster]

All I see is Dorian annihilating everyone.

He's got Greg in his back pocket.

[NarcissisticDeity]

does anyone read this shit?

 

its so stupid its incredible.

eg. why are ronnie's glutes better? because they are more striated?

well, guess what ND? Ronnie's glutes are generally considered the best of all time mainly in part due to the ripped striations and development of the muscle, as gay as this may sound.

as much as you would like to think that dorian has glutes that come even remotely close to Ronnie's, he doesn't.

never has.

never will.

same with the arms in that pose.

and the taper in that pose.

and the lower back thickness, (or in dorian's case, thinness).

you can babble all you want, it does not change reality.

dorian had better calves. and NOTHING ELSE:

I explained exactly why Dorian owns this pose and you're to fucking stupid to form a rebuttal so you just type nonsense , lol Dorian has better calves and nothing else lol again you type empty words and when owned by me with a complete explanation you revert back to typing baseless claims and empty words .

[Shockwave]

He's got Greg in his back pocket.

You really need some new pics sparky.
You have the same 4-5 pics used in almost every post for 2 years.
Awesome.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You really need some new pics sparky.
You have the same 4-5 pics used in almost every post for 2 years.
Awesome.

He likes straw men he likes to post those pics it ' proves ' he was right man about the whole conspiracy of the Weider's handpicking their white knight lol

[Mr.1derful]

Pumpster is just a closet Dorian fan and this is his way of being able to post Dorian's pics.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Pumpster is just a closet Dorian fan and this is his way of being able to post Dorian's pics.

Oh pumpster is in the closet but NOT for being a Yates fan lol

[Hulkster]

I explained exactly why Dorian owns this pose and you're to fucking stupid to form a rebuttal so you just type nonsense , lol Dorian has better calves and nothing else lol again you type empty words and when owned by me with a complete explanation you revert back to typing baseless claims and empty words .

yes, baseless claims and empty words that are so true that you cannot even acknowledge the visual comparisons..

you run from it.

tell us ND, if my claims and explanations are so 'baseless and empty' why do you come up with every possible excuse in the book to explain why Dorian gets crushed in all the visual comparisons?

 

all but two poses. remember this.

you run from stuff like this:

[pumpster]

Pumpster is just a closet Dorian fan and this is his way of being able to post Dorian's pics.

I'm the first to admit it.

[pumpster]

Oh pumpster is in the closet but NOT for being a Yates fan lol

Epic stalking volume XVIX LOL nothing to do with Yates' shortcoming once again. 

[pumpster]

You really need some new pics sparky.
You have the same 4-5 pics used in almost every post for 2 years.
Awesome.

Looks like someone's been following along all that time, transfixed.

[Hurricane Beef !]

THE VERY BOTTOM LIE IS THAT AT HI SBEST RONNIE HAD NO EQUAL, PERIOD.

THE BEEF

[pumpster]

THE VERY BOTTOM LIE IS THAT AT HI SBEST RONNIE HAD NO EQUAL, PERIOD.

THE BEEF

Exactly why the getbig poll was no contest for Coleman, a fact conveniently ignored.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, baseless claims and empty words that are so true that you cannot even acknowledge the visual comparisons..

you run from it.

tell us ND, if my claims and explanations are so 'baseless and empty' why do you come up with every possible excuse in the book to explain why Dorian gets crushed in all the visual comparisons?

 

all but two poses. remember this.

you run from stuff like this:

Like your other claims its empty I posted the pics of Dorian and Ronnie's back double biceps shot I explained briefly why he's better and you just continued to type garbage then I can a extremely thorough and detailed explanation why he has a better back double biceps shot and you're so fucking dumbfounded you do what you always do , post a couple of pictures and and cherry pick the criteria you don't have anything for me !

Dorian's back double biceps shot is complete and lacks NOTHING Ronnie's in incomplete and lacks a few things .

[NarcissisticDeity]

THE VERY BOTTOM LIE IS THAT AT HI SBEST RONNIE HAD NO EQUAL, PERIOD.

THE BEEF

wow you certainly proved your case  another idiot who makes empty claims that lack substance .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Exactly why the getbig poll was no contest for Coleman, a fact conveniently ignored.

Oh yes and we all know savy the people who voted on that are  the same people who think wolf was the clear cut winner of this Olympia 

[Matt C]

Oh yes and we all know savy the people who voted on that are  the same people who think wolf was the clear cut winner of this Olympia 

Ronnie was a legit fourth at the O this year unfortunately.  Dorian in 1993 would have won.

[slaveboy1980]

Ronnie was a legit fourth at the O this year unfortunately.  Dorian in 1993 would have won.

ronnie wasnt even in the top 8

[pumpster]

wow you certainly proved your case  another idiot who makes empty claims that lack substance .

According to ND "proving your case" starts with deflections.

[pumpster]

Like your other claims its empty I posted the pics of Dorian and Ronnie's back double biceps shot I explained briefly why he's better and you just continued to type garbage then I can a extremely thorough and detailed explanation why he has a better back double biceps shot and you're so fucking dumbfounded you do what you always do , post a couple of pictures and and cherry pick the criteria you don't have anything for me !

Dorian's back double biceps shot is complete and lacks NOTHING Ronnie's in incomplete and lacks a few things .

He keeps relying on "judging criteria" that can't explain decisions like Columbu; this guy is friggin brilliant! What an asset to getbig. I really think iron age is more appreciative of this wisdom.

The rest of the conclusions run something like this: "I know Yates is better, therefore he is". LOL


Basically the entire thought process smells, as GH15 who understands BB far better, mentioned.

[suckmymuscle]

He keeps relying on "judging criteria" that can't explain decisions like Columbu; this guy is friggin brilliant! What an asset to getbig. I really think iron age is more appreciative of this wisdom.

  You have no evidence that there was politics involved in Columbu's win. You have yet to provide evidence for your contention. In a court of law, if you were the attorney of Columbu's rival suing the I.F.B.B for this decision, you would need to supply evidence that the decision was political. You have failed to do so...

The rest of the conclusions run something like this: "I know Yates is better, therefore he is". LOL

  This is an outright outrageous lie, because it is the Coleman fans who do that and not us. Both me and ND have written and provided far more evidence for Dorian's case than you Coleman supporter's have for Ronnie's. It is you Coleman fans who argue in the lines of "Ronnie is better, therefore he is". Or better yet, "Ronnie is better because I like physique more".

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

According to ND "proving your case" starts with deflections.

According to pumpster proving your cases starts with posting relaxed photos and transition shots , you've yet to explain why Yates should have lost you're like Hulkster you post straw men in the form of relaxed photos and backstage shots and leave snide little remarks , you can't prove your case because you have NO case , you don't agree with Yates' wins so they must be politics thats empty , so don't question my case its been throughly explained .

[NarcissisticDeity]

He keeps relying on "judging criteria" that can't explain decisions like Columbu; this guy is friggin brilliant! What an asset to getbig. I really think iron age is more appreciative of this wisdom.

The rest of the conclusions run something like this: "I know Yates is better, therefore he is". LOL


Basically the entire thought process smells, as GH15 who understands BB far better, mentioned.

I don't have to explain Columbu , I told you I don't have enough information to base a strong opinion , going on what little information I do have ( pics ) I don't think Franco should have won but unlike you I admit that is limited , you and the politics claims give me a break serious thats a weak argument and if shows how desperate some people are for an explanation that they actually prefer a conspiracy theory to NO theory at all , 1981 Franco was first should he have won? I don't know .......but you champion Padilla , Danny was in 5th place thats a long way from first so if anyone was going to win its a long way for Padilla to travel , there were 3 guys before him who could have replaced Franco .


and GH15 may know a lot about drugs but as far as competitive bodybuilding give me a break he's the fucking idiot who had Steve Reeves taking d-bols 10 years before Ciba made them lol so much for his knowledge .

[Hulkster]

you don't agree with Yates' wins so they must be politics thats empty

you guys don't seem to understand. gee what a surprise.

in the bodybuilding world, a 'political' decision is generally accepted to have occured when a physique is

either:

1) awarded a placing far better than it deserved based on the merits of the physique on contest day

(eg. Arnold 1980, Dorian 1994/1996, )

OR

2) awarded a placing far worse than it deserved

(eg. Wolf 2007, Menzter 1980, Aaron Baker (pretty much any post WBF contest).

The physiques themselves and the relavent placements provide clear evidence of politics.

None of us will ever know the true motive behind Joe Weider and his reasonings.

that does NOT mean that politically motivated placings did not occur.

that is the point.

You don't need to come up with some 'theory' as to why Franco won in 1981 to see that poltics were involved.

all you have to do his compare his physique to his competitors like Platz and you quickly see the proof right in front of your eyes.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you guys don't seem to understand. gee what a surprise.

in the bodybuilding world, a 'political' decision is generally accepted to have occured when a physique is

either:

1) awarded a placing far better than it deserved based on the merits of the physique on contest day

(eg. Arnold 1980, Dorian 1994/1996, )

OR

2) awarded a placing far worse than it deserved

(eg. Wolf 2007, Menzter 1980, Aaron Baker (pretty much any post WBF contest).

The physiques themselves and the relavent placements provide clear evidence of politics.

None of us will ever know the true motive behind Joe Weider and his reasonings.

that does NOT mean that politically motivated placings did not occur.

that is the point.

You don't need to come up with some 'theory' as to why Franco won in 1981 to see that poltics were involved.

all you have to do his compare his physique to his competitors like Platz and you quickly see the proof right in front of your eyes.

Generally accepted by who? the fans? seeking comfort in numbers again ? most fans are like you IGNORANT they don't know how contests are judged and base their opinion on personal preference hence 50 threads Dennis Wolf is Mr Olympia everyone ooohhh and aaahhh about Wolf's physique and its a really good one but he didn't win the show , he wasn't beating Jay or Victor and his conditioning wasn't good enough to surpass Dexter

and funny how you left out Ronnie from your political conspiracy theory lol the height of hypocrisy and bias , if you want to believe 94/96 were ' politically motivated ' then you have to concede HALF of Ronnie's 8 were the same because on paper he had a lot more close calls .