Author Topic: Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce  (Read 3487006 times)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36050 on: October 12, 2007, 02:05:31 AM »
Nice pics dizzy, but you're wasting your time posting them. The yates side wouldn't even care to look at them. They dismiss everything in Ronnie's favour (pics, videos, comparisons, quotes and opinions). This thread is pretty much finished. I just post here to piss of ND because he takes this shyt to heart, LOL. Deep down ND hates Ronnie and all of his fans. Just look at his posts toward Ronnie, he ridicule's Ronnie everyday. That shows you how much respect he has or lack of. ND will answer this post with a biased smart a$$ answer and thinks he proved something. Just wait a few minutes for it because he is like some post hore sitting by the computer 24/7, LOL.

Ha , Ha , Ha meltdown post

everything you just accused me of you're guilty of typical hypocritical Coleman fan ! again you keep saying this thread is over yet you're still here in a desperate attempt to prove your point to ME and you can't do it you're reduced to slanted comparisons , subjective quotes and biased rants . and what you're doing is called projection , you're projecting your feelings on me

This thread isn't getting to me thats what you want it to do , but unlike you and Hulkster you don't see me declaring " I'm done with this thread " you're frustrated that you can't gain any ground with your ignorant point of view and I don't hate Ronnie thats again you projecting I stick to critiquing his physique and never the man himself , many people on this board attack the way he speaks his ability to articulate himself and you will NEVER find me joining in on that , its not my style , so nice try with the hate angle any other straws you want to grasp at? lol


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36051 on: October 12, 2007, 09:52:59 AM »
LOL I would rather retire at 43 than retire at ONLY 35 looking like Greg Kovacs.. :-\

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how about someone posting the real pics from 97 - or at least good quailty.

same old hulkster.

posts a digitally enhanced shot of coleman vs. a shot of yates from the december 97 issue of FLEX






owned as usual.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36052 on: October 12, 2007, 10:15:45 AM »
Great Post!

and nice pics.

dorian fans take note.

ronnie's abs sucked. but his intercostsals were sliced.

wow sliced intercostals Yipee his serattus sucks as well as the protruding abdominals , this is 260 pounds bone dry & rock hard , look at the sharpness of the intercostals/abdominals/serattus and external obliques Ronnie lacks this type of crisp muscularity

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36053 on: October 12, 2007, 10:19:46 AM »
My god this thread is still going. Is this shit going to continue even though RONNIE COLEMAN OFFICIALLY RETIRED???  ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36054 on: October 12, 2007, 10:21:06 AM »
My god this thread is still going. Is this shit going to continue even though RONNIE COLEMAN OFFICIALLY RETIRED???  ::)

yates retired in 98.

what's your point?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36055 on: October 12, 2007, 10:23:47 AM »
I havn't even read anything today on this thread but I'll catch up the last 3-4 pages.
I like this thread and will add any positives I find about Dorian also
as I look at different web pages.
Here is a quote I found from:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecoleman2001asc.html

Nothing needs to be said about Ronnie's back development or how Ronnie looks in any given back pose - he always looks fantastic as he possesses arguably the best back in the history of bodybuilding - some would say Dorian Yates owns that back, but I would give the edge to Ronnie.

lmfao please don't use Matt C as a source of information he's not that well versed ( like the guys on here )

I've never seen a single back shot from Ronnie that could touch these just never , in fact I've never seen any back shot that can equal these nevermind surpass them

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36056 on: October 12, 2007, 10:25:51 AM »
I mean he has to many advantages Ronnie doesn't in the back

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36057 on: October 12, 2007, 11:54:04 AM »
My god this thread is still going. Is this shit going to continue even though RONNIE COLEMAN OFFICIALLY RETIRED???  ::)


Hey Nav, I was waiting for someone to point out that Coleman said he might fuck around in the European circuit for a while, but that he was done with the O.

However, I think the obsessive behaviour here is way more important than facts or shit!

LOL!

 ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36058 on: October 12, 2007, 01:52:58 PM »
There is no dought that Dorian has Ronnie in that pose.
I've always thought he did. Ronnie has a superior V
shape in his back double bi. My tastes lean toward
that super ripped look and overall if I had to vote just
by the evidence we have, I would give the nod to Dorian
on back.
As far as my pics being digitally enhanced, I was really
dissapointed that Ronnie looks smaller in my pics than he does
on the TV. (Video Tape at that...So your looking at a loss of 3 generations)
 The relaxed shot of Ron really shows why I prefer
his physique overall. To me, that is what a bodybuilder should look like.
Like I said before, Dorian is very impressive but just reminds me of a mixture
of a thicker boned powerlifter and a bodybuilder. With Ronnie's asthetics in 99
and being so sliced and diced everywhere the overall effect is hard to overcome.

You made a great point with your back pics of Dorian. Not even the great Samir Bannout
in 1983 had that much definition in his back.


 

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36059 on: October 12, 2007, 02:22:40 PM »
There is no dought that Dorian has Ronnie in that pose.
I've always thought he did. Ronnie has a superior V
shape in his back double bi. My tastes lean toward
that super ripped look and overall if I had to vote just
by the evidence we have, I would give the nod to Dorian
on back.
As far as my pics being digitally enhanced, I was really
dissapointed that Ronnie looks smaller in my pics than he does
on the TV. (Video Tape at that...So your looking at a loss of 3 generations)
 The relaxed shot of Ron really shows why I prefer
his physique overall. To me, that is what a bodybuilder should look like.
Like I said before, Dorian is very impressive but just reminds me of a mixture
of a thicker boned powerlifter and a bodybuilder. With Ronnie's asthetics in 99
and being so sliced and diced everywhere the overall effect is hard to overcome.

You made a great point with your back pics of Dorian. Not even the great Samir Bannout
in 1983 had that much definition in his back.


 


and the list continues....


another person who 1st thought ronnie easily beat dorian, but then saw the evidence and does not live in a fantasy world (cue hulkster - ronnie was just being humble and did deserve to win in 2001, lol) has seen the truth.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36060 on: October 12, 2007, 02:32:49 PM »
I don't think you read the whole thing or misunderstood
what I was saying:
      I think Ronnie 1999 @ prejudging Mr. Olympia is the greatest bodybuilding
body ever. I don't think anyone could easily beat Dorian.
I never said Ronnie had a better back than Dorian. They both have their strengths
and if hard pressed I would say Yates wins overall ON BACK.
Total Package - Coleman 100%...
 

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36061 on: October 12, 2007, 02:34:57 PM »
I don't think you read the whole thing or misunderstood
what I was saying:
      I think Ronnie 1999 @ prejudging Mr. Olympia is the greatest bodybuilding
body ever. I don't think anyone could easily beat Dorian.
I never said Ronnie had a better back than Dorian. They both have their strengths
and if hard pressed I would say Yates wins overall ON BACK.
Total Package - Coleman 100%...
 

Total package includes calves , total package includes balance & proportion , total package includes density & conditioning , overall Dorian has the better package .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36062 on: October 12, 2007, 02:46:55 PM »
LOL I would rather retire at 43 than retire at ONLY 35 looking like Greg Kovacs.. :-\

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Dorian retired undefeated he retired on his terms , he wasn't forced out like Ronnie who was gifted a 4th place and nice pics btw hey Coleman was at that show in 97 and where did he place? lol


Dorian 1997 would crush anyone at the 2007 Olympia even with the tears

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36063 on: October 12, 2007, 02:48:36 PM »
lets get real, yates would have won the 07 mr o in this shape, and ron would have been 5th.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36064 on: October 12, 2007, 02:57:45 PM »
Quote
I don't think you read the whole thing or misunderstood
what I was saying:

this happens all the time..

note to Icecold and ND:

how many more times to we have to keep calling you guys out on the fact that you are completely incapable of reading and understanding the english language?

 :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36065 on: October 12, 2007, 03:01:00 PM »
I don't think you read the whole thing or misunderstood
what I was saying:
      I think Ronnie 1999 @ prejudging Mr. Olympia is the greatest bodybuilding
body ever. I don't think anyone could easily beat Dorian.
I never said Ronnie had a better back than Dorian. They both have their strengths
and if hard pressed I would say Yates wins overall ON BACK.
Total Package - Coleman 100%... 

exactly.

the back is pretty much even for both because for every person that thinks dorian had a better back, there is someone who thinks Ronnie had a better back.

chances are a panel of judges would be the same..

ronnie had a better taper, better arms, and at least in the back double bi shot, more thickness.

Dorian had better definition, particularly in the lower back. as shown by pretty much the only shots ND ever posts of dorian anymore..

and I wonder why that is... ::)

because most every where else and in most other poses, dorian loses.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36066 on: October 12, 2007, 03:02:04 PM »
lets get real, yates would have won the 07 mr o in this shape, and ron would have been 5th.

agreed. but that has nothing to do with comparing Ronnie and dorian at their respective bests, which is the focus of this thread...

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36067 on: October 12, 2007, 03:03:04 PM »
Blah , blah , blah you have no response ! reread the post kid your answer is in it , you just don't like it.  ;)

wow. what a great rebuttal..

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we can all see why ND does not have any letters after his name...hahahahaha   :P ;)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36068 on: October 12, 2007, 03:08:01 PM »
wow. what a great rebuttal..

 ::)

we can all see why ND does not have any letters after his name...hahahahaha   :P ;)

the irony of you commenting on anyone's rebuttal lol you're the genius who posts most musculars and empty one liners lol

Hulkster you have nothing

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36069 on: October 12, 2007, 03:10:38 PM »
exactly.

the back is pretty much even for both because for every person that thinks dorian had a better back, there is someone who thinks Ronnie had a better back.

chances are a panel of judges would be the same..

ronnie had a better taper, better arms, and at least in the back double bi shot, more thickness.

Dorian had better definition, particularly in the lower back. as shown by pretty much the only shots ND ever posts of dorian anymore..

and I wonder why that is... ::)

because most every where else and in most other poses, dorian loses.


I laughed out loud when you typed Ronnie has more thickness lol now was funny and better arms again blanket statement , arms include forearms ( yates ) triceps ( yates ) biceps ( ronnie ) balance & proportion ( yates )

there is NO Ronnie Coleman shot that can match this for completeness and textbook perfection none

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Why is it you cherry pick the criteria for what you like and discard the criteria that clearly favors Dorian ? Hmm I wonder why  ;)

does Ronnie have better balance and proportion that Dorian? NO pick a year he lags behind you will never counter this , this is specifically required per the criteria

does Ronnie have better conditioning ? in 1999 NO he doesn't does he have better density compared to Dorian? in 1999 NO he doesn't this is specifically required per the criteria

what are we left with? muscular bulk while Ronnie weighs the same maybe a tad less its NOT conditioned bulk , dense bulk so what ground have you gained? what do you have? besides taper and bigger biceps?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36070 on: October 12, 2007, 03:11:56 PM »
this happens all the time..

note to Icecold and ND:

how many more times to we have to keep calling you guys out on the fact that you are completely incapable of reading and understanding the english language?

 :-\

Oh I understand everything you type like Dorian's back is paper thin lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36071 on: October 12, 2007, 04:07:56 PM »
Oh I understand everything you type like Dorian's back is paper thin lol

it is in the rear double bi pose compared to ronnie.

look at the lats in the pose. ronnie's are so thick and dorian's are flat...look to the center of the lower back and notice thickness of muscle in ronnie vs the flatness of dorian..

Ronnie's arms blow dorian's off the map as does the glutes and hams.

dorian has an edge in calves. thats it:

Ronnie 98 takes the pose. 99 was no different:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36072 on: October 12, 2007, 04:41:00 PM »
it is in the rear double bi pose compared to ronnie.

look at the lats in the pose. ronnie's are so thick and dorian's are flat...look to the center of the lower back and notice thickness of muscle in ronnie vs the flatness of dorian..

Ronnie's arms blow dorian's off the map as does the glutes and hams.

dorian has an edge in calves. thats it:

Ronnie 98 takes the pose. 99 was no different:

the edge in calves and thats it huh? spoken like a true ignorant , stop ignoring the criteria no he just doesn't have the edge in calves thats nonsense balance & proportion muscular bulk density completeness

First of all the pic of Dorian is taken at an angle and Ronnie's is more straight on , second Yates thickness in his back is unrivaled especially compared to a 249 pound Ronnie Coleman you can clearly see the thickness of Yates lats in the back double bicep in the form of the feathering of his lower lats something you can't see on Ronnie and the same for the erector spinae or lower back Dorian is unrivaled in thickness of his lower back do you see a christmas tree in Ronnie's lower back in this pose? NO its smooth

And Ronnie's arms DO NOT Blow Dorian off the map , this is another one of your gross overstatements NO they are BIGGER and thats it period . Dorian's arms show just as much separation as Ronnies and lets talk about balance & proportion which you keep running from and understandably so lol you need to , Ronnie's biceps/triceps and forearms are NOT in proportion with each other and they're to big for his small torso what the use of bigger arms?

Glutes and Hams , more straws for you , Dorian has striated glutes somehow you think because Ronnie has more his glutes are better this is such dumb logic , Dorian has more striations in his back so using your LOGIC Dorian's back is better than Ronnie  ;) if Dorian didn't have any at all maybe you could use this as an advantage but spare me . oh and don't forget his glutes are hugely overdeveloped and are NOT in balance with the rest of his physique I mean they can be seen from the front thats NOT great balance & proportion and just when you think you have an edge you have nothing

Hamstrings , you keep typing this Muscular Development bullshit , again what does Ronnie have in terms of hams that Dorian didn't?  explain this , stop typing generalizations , Dorian shows clear separation & development of the biceps femoris , semimembranosus and semitendinosus , learn anatomy before you type this nonsense

Again from head to toe using the criteria Dorian has better balance & proportion in all poses compared to Ronnie 1998 he's bigger 257 pounds compared to 249 pounds , his conditioning & density are equal if not better than Ronnie , he's complete he has calves Dorian has everything in the back double biceps pose that Ronnie has and then some  ;)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36073 on: October 12, 2007, 05:18:28 PM »
Lets see what their lats and the rest of their backs look like side-by-side in a REAL comparison  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36074 on: October 12, 2007, 05:33:53 PM »
LOL ND is melting down on the defensive yet again as Ronnie has show to be better than dorian in the 456565867987484659th visual comparison..

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