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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37250 on: November 27, 2007, 09:11:51 PM »
Coleman looking like a pig, as usual

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37251 on: November 27, 2007, 09:14:27 PM »
Even Jay's pathetic back was harder than Coleman's  :-\ :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37252 on: November 27, 2007, 10:53:30 PM »
The keg looks great in black socks it goes with the boils and gh look. :-X

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37253 on: November 28, 2007, 01:37:02 AM »
read this. ;)

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Branch Warren – Flex, October 2006

“I have a lot of respect for Ronnie. He’s probably the greatest bodybuilder there’s ever been”



Read this  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37254 on: November 28, 2007, 01:39:45 AM »
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

contend: to strive or vie in contest or rivalry.

show me where it says "to tie." It's possible for someone to be a contender yet still lose. ;)

Yes lose because he's lacking in size , balance & proportion , completeness and posing  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37255 on: November 28, 2007, 01:53:20 AM »
I've always maintained that 03 Ronnie's combination of mass, conditioning, and symmetry would overwhelm Dorian. The only comment I made that remotely resembles what you said is when I claimed the difference in size >>> the difference in conditioning.

I always laugh at your continued ignorance , symmetry  ::) in 2003 his ' symmetry ' was at its all-time worse his waist was at its thickest his abdomen was swollen , his balance & proportion ( lack thereof ) is maxed out his symmetry sucks period , especially this year and 18 extra pounds on Ronnie was NOT quality pounds so the size advantage compromises his balance & proportion as well so its redundant , please notice where where Mcgough states the obvious , 2001 he was HARDER ( i.e. 2003 is soft ) and more detailed ( i.e. not as dry )

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He was 269 pounds of rock-hard shapely (yes, shapely) head-to-toe muscle. I had never seen anything like it.


notice the key-words ROCK-HARD ( i.e. NOT soft like Coleman 2003 ) and shapely , Dorian showing that highly prized combo of muscular bulk and muscular density that would make Ronnie 2003 look off-season , especially if he was tanned , had on posing oil and was under contest lighting , couple that with being more complete , having clearly better balance & proportion and being a better poser Ronnie 2003 would get trampled just like the Little Ronnie of 2001 , any year you pick Dorian had advantages in the judging criteria Ronnie doesn't

2001 Ronnie may have matched Yates in density & conditioning but he's still down balance & proportion , completeness , posing and Oh he's also down 22 pounds of quality dense muscle

2003 Ronnie doesn't match Dorian in density & conditioning , doesn't match Yates in balance & proportion , completeness , or posing although he is heavier but its not that dense muscle combined with the muscular bulk that is highly prized in bodybuilding contests

so you're right back to square one , you've gained NO ground.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37256 on: November 28, 2007, 01:57:29 AM »
are you seriuos?

"sock footed yates" was smaller and not even close to the same condition
Disagree Ronnie in his best years was easly matched by Dorian in his best years.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37257 on: November 28, 2007, 03:32:15 AM »
Jesus that stuff with all the quotes is sad. What makes them peoples opinion worth a crap eh? I can sum up the Dorian and Ronnie argument in a sentence. Two different blokes two different eras who gives shit. I know both of them notwell but welll enough to say I know that Dorian would laugh his head off and probably ronnie too now hes retired from the game or so he says.
What is sad to me is no one has really improved on Dorian since he bowed out and he could probably come back today at nigh on46 and wipe the floor with most of them geezers no all of them.Martinez is too bloody small so is James,Cutler is big but ordinary Wolf is this wolf is that he shoulve won bullshit if you got crap calfes ypu got a crap physique end of story. To me the olympia was more entertaning when i used to watch me old vidoes twenty years ago and even then it was going downhill. Dorian saved it for a while until the arm thing screwed him.

This whole story is a waste of time and most of what Ive seen so far is just wrong

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37258 on: November 28, 2007, 12:24:19 PM »
Jesus that stuff with all the quotes is sad. What makes them peoples opinion worth a crap eh? I can sum up the Dorian and Ronnie argument in a sentence. Two different blokes two different eras who gives shit. I know both of them notwell but welll enough to say I know that Dorian would laugh his head off and probably ronnie too now hes retired from the game or so he says.
What is sad to me is no one has really improved on Dorian since he bowed out and he could probably come back today at nigh on46 and wipe the floor with most of them geezers no all of them.Martinez is too bloody small so is James,Cutler is big but ordinary Wolf is this wolf is that he shoulve won bullshit if you got crap calfes ypu got a crap physique end of story. To me the olympia was more entertaning when i used to watch me old vidoes twenty years ago and even then it was going downhill. Dorian saved it for a while until the arm thing screwed him.

This whole story is a waste of time and most of what Ive seen so far is just wrong

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  Wrong. Dorian at his best had all the strenghs Ronnie had but with fewer weaknesses. :)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37259 on: November 28, 2007, 12:28:24 PM »
  Wrong. Dorian at his best had all the strenghs Ronnie had but with fewer weaknesses. :)

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Dorian was notably smaller and also injured.  Otherwise, I would agree.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37260 on: November 28, 2007, 12:42:57 PM »
yes but he made the second comment about ronnie AFTER this comment. your smarter then this, its not even an argument.


  Wrong! He said it in the same sentence! ;)

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Re: Hulkster " Ronnie's calves have more detail than Dorian "
« Reply #37261 on: November 28, 2007, 12:46:00 PM »
Matt, I totally agree with you.
I think it's close to a wash also, and its going to come down to what the judges like better on that particular day.
BTW, most non-biased post by you ever.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37262 on: November 28, 2007, 12:48:51 PM »
Dorian was notably smaller and also injured.  Otherwise, I would agree.

  Ronnie 2003 was bigger than Dorian at the 1995 Olympia or in those black-and-whites, but when you factor in conditioning the difference in muscle size is only about 15 lbs over Dorian 1995 Olympia and maybe 10 lbs over Dorian in those black-and-whites. I don't think that's a huge difference in muscle size. Factor in Ronnie's inferor symmetry and conditioning when compared to Dorian and it could go either way. ;)

  As for Ronnie 2001 ASC, Dorian would be just as dry but with 13 to 16 lbs of weight more, and while Ronnie then was very symmetrical, he still had more flaws than Dorian. Frankly, I don't see how the Ronster can win. :)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37263 on: November 28, 2007, 12:53:07 PM »
  Ronnie 2003 was bigger than Dorian at the 1995 Olympia or in those black-and-whites, but when you factor in conditioning the difference in muscle size is only about 15 lbs over Dorian 1995 Olympia and maybe 10 lbs over Dorian in those black-and-whites. I don't think that's a huge difference in muscle size. Factor in Ronnie's inferor symmetry and conditioning when compared to Dorian and it could go either way. ;)

  As for Ronnie 2001 ASC, Dorian would be just as dry but with 13 to 16 lbs of weight more, and while Ronnie then was very symmetrical, he still had more flaws than Dorian. Frankly, I don't see how the Ronster can win. :)

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Thank you for your excellent and well written remarks!!!

One thing I disagree with is that Ronnie at 287 was in worse conditioning than Dorian all over - his back was clearly not as dry, but his hamstrings and glutes and also his chest were more ripped in my opinion.  Check his back shots or most muscular shots and you will see that Dorian at his most shredded is still no more shredded than that.  I have yet to see Dorian's glutes look that ripped.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37264 on: November 28, 2007, 01:02:09 PM »
Thank you for your excellent and well written remarks!!!

One thing I disagree with is that Ronnie at 287 was in worse conditioning than Dorian all over - his back was clearly not as dry, but his hamstrings and glutes and also his chest were more ripped in my opinion.  Check his back shots or most muscular shots and you will see that Dorian at his most shredded is still no more shredded than that.  I have yet to see Dorian's glutes look that ripped.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37265 on: November 28, 2007, 01:06:11 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37266 on: November 28, 2007, 01:39:20 PM »
more pregnant gut



No that gut wasn't visible onstage  ??? all of these guys have argued this

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37267 on: November 28, 2007, 01:45:49 PM »
No that gut wasn't visible onstage all of these guys have argued this

you mean like how you argued Dorian didn't have a gut on stage either? ;)












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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37268 on: November 28, 2007, 01:47:49 PM »
Neo frantically searching for any transitional moments on Yates LOL

Bottom line: Coleman had a convex gut when he hit his pose. You will never find a Yates shot with his gut sticking out.

If you want an example just look at Ronnie's front lat on the 01ASC. Fucking putrid.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37269 on: November 28, 2007, 01:49:01 PM »
you mean like how you argued Dorian didn't have a gut on stage either? ;)





Oh boy you think thats comparable to Ronnie? lol his is absolutely svelte by comparison and the top pic his gut isn't protruding his obliques are relaxed

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37270 on: November 28, 2007, 01:51:29 PM »
you mean like how you argued Dorian didn't have a gut on stage either? ;)




The irony you tag the pics ' fat cow ' lol Neo you're hopeless lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37271 on: November 28, 2007, 01:54:23 PM »
Neo frantically searching for any transitional moments on Yates LOL

Bottom line: Coleman had a convex gut when he hit his pose. You will never find a Yates shot with his gut sticking out.

If you want an example just look at Ronnie's front lat on the 01ASC. Fucking putrid.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37272 on: November 28, 2007, 01:54:34 PM »
Sorry, but Yates owns the fat pig.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37273 on: November 28, 2007, 02:32:31 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37274 on: November 28, 2007, 03:34:35 PM »
LOL look at the 93 shot and the 99 shot of Ronnie.

notice how dorian's arms are like twigs compared to his massive torso. way undersized.

notice how ronnie's are in perfect proportion.

thanks for post that Bizzy!

it highlights for the 4 millionth time how much better Ronnie was in 99 in terms of proportions that dorian EVER was, even at his 93 best.

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