Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Who is they? you're the only moron making that claim ! 

Flapjacks baby!

[pumpster]

Yates is the judging criteria

Right there you know this clown's clueless, using one of the worst all-time worst MMs LOL here's Yates making Flea look like Oliva in that pathetic pose.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Flapjacks baby!

again that pic proves NOTHING thats from a contest where he handed Coleman his ass despite the arms lol what do you have ? conspiracy theories and stories of politics that only apply to guys you don't like lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

Right there you know this clown's clueless, using one of the worst all-time worst MMs LOL here's Yates making Flea look like Oliva in that pathetic pose.

Sure and thats why Labrada won the contest lmfao

[NarcissisticDeity]

No politics in 2002 lmfao Ronnie won fair & square

[Matt C]

No politics in 2002 lmfao Ronnie won fair & square

You think he deserved to win in 2002?

[NarcissisticDeity]

You think he deserved to win in 2002?

I don't think he lost but it could have went either way , being the incumbent Mr Olympia saved his ass .

[NeoSeminole]

No they didn't definition is conditioning jackass density is a separate entity hence why they listed separately OH SNAP owned again moron just like balance & proportion were the same thing huh Mr Personal Trainer? lmfao you know nothing

wow, you are retarded! The purpose of conditioning is to rid oneself of body fat (appear denser) and expose the muscles (increase definition). If density and conditioning were separate, then density shouldn't be affected by conditoning. Muscular bulk isn't affected by symmetry, and shape isn't affected by conditioning. However, we see that density is directly related to conditioning - one results in the manifestation of the other.

Dorian is more complete than Coleman old news , Dorian has better density , better CONDITIONED bulk , better balance & proportion , better conditioning , he was a better poser and had fewer flaws

how lame. All you did was repeat yourself 3 times to multiply Dorian's advantages. My turn:

Ronnie has greater muscular bulk, more size, better symmetry, better muscularity, better definition, better separations and striations, better fullness, better shape, and fewer flaws.

[NarcissisticDeity]

wow, you are retarded! The purpose of conditioning is to rid oneself of body fat (appear denser) and expose the muscles (increase definition). If density and conditioning were separate, then density shouldn't be affected by conditoning. Muscular bulk isn't affected by symmetry, and shape isn't affected by conditioning. However, we see that density is directly related to conditioning - one results in the manifestation of the other.

how lame. All you did was repeat yourself 3 times to multiply Dorian's advantages. My turn:

Ronnie has greater muscular bulk, more size, better symmetry, better muscularity, better definition, better separations and striations, better fullness, better shape, and fewer flaws.

wow, you are retarded! The purpose of conditioning is to rid oneself of body fat (appear denser) and expose the muscles (increase definition). If density and conditioning were separate, then density shouldn't be affected by conditoning. Muscular bulk isn't affected by symmetry, and shape isn't affected by conditioning. However, we see that density is directly related to conditioning - one results in the manifestation of the other.

I know what density & conditioning are , I'm explaining it to you    ( as usual ) and the point still stands MORON they're listed separately in the criteria which was my point , density is a step beyond condition although part of it , density is ' highly prized ' I might add along with muscular bulk which is Dorian Yates , one can be dry but NOT dense the two is much sort after which is why Yates dominated 

how lame. All you did was repeat yourself 3 times to multiply Dorian's advantages. My turn:

Ronnie has greater muscular bulk, more size, better symmetry, better muscularity, better definition, better separations and striations, better fullness, better shape, and fewer flaws.

yawn nice try though 

[HTexan]

yes, coleman is the greatest.

[The Squadfather]

yes, coleman is the greatest.

i agree.

[NarcissisticDeity]

All rounds are physique rounds which is why Dorian blows Ronnie out of the water in any pose , sure Coleman has advantages but overall when all things are considered they don't trump Dorian's

in every single mandatory pose they look for muscular bulk and thats conditioned muscular bulk not the off-season looking type Ronnie carries ( at heavier weights )  , they look for who is the driest , most dense and biggest , then they also look for who has the best balance & proportion and who has the fewest weaknesses and who is hitting the pose most effectively and that my friends is exactly why Dorian would beat Ronnie

Sure you can find advantages for Ronnie , smaller joints , waist & hips , better taper but they can NOT compensate for his clear disadvantages in balance & proportion , density & dryness , or his incompleteness or the fact he doesn't effectively hit his mandatories as good as Yates

[The Squadfather]

All rounds are physique rounds which is why Dorian blows Ronnie out of the water in any pose , sure Coleman has advantages but overall when all things are considered they don't trump Dorian's

in every single mandatory pose they look for muscular bulk and thats conditioned muscular bulk not the off-season looking type Ronnie carries ( at heavier weights )  , they look for who is the driest , most dense and biggest , then they also look for who has the best balance & proportion and who has the fewest weaknesses and who is hitting the pose most effectively and that my friends is exactly why Dorian would beat Ronnie

Sure you can find advantages for Ronnie , smaller joints , waist & hips , better taper but they can NOT compensate for his clear disadvantages in balance & proportion , density & dryness , or his incompleteness or the fact he doesn't effectively hit his mandatories as good as Yates

what about Dorian's 17 inch arms?

[NarcissisticDeity]

what about Dorian's 17 inch arms?

LMFAO best post ever , you're now claiming to have bigger arms than Dorian Yates lol this one is a keeper. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

what about Dorian's 17 inch arms?

At his best Dorian's arms were plenty BIG lol I'm still laughing at 17" inches

[The Squadfather]

At his best Dorian's arms were plenty BIG lol I'm still laughing at 17" inches

you know i was just exaggerating.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you know i was just exaggerating.

I know . 

[Iceman1981]

you are such a fucking moron

read and weep idiot:

there you have it moron: size, condition and fullness he lacked a year earlier.

what do you say ND, when you have a quote right here from Peter Fucking McGough that says Ronnie was bigger in 99, better conditioned in 99 and more full in 99..you run  no doubt. LOL what a pathetic loser.


from Flex Magazine, Sept. 2005:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614

ND take note: Peter is discussing the BEST EVER Mr. O's, and notice that the 1999 Mr. O is listed by Peter NOT THE 1998 OLYMPIA.

READ THAT AGAIN IDIOT: NOT THE 1998 OLYMPIA.

PETER PREFERS THE 99 FORM OVER THE 98 FORM.

there moron.

right on paper. Peter feels his 99 form was better than his 98 form.

now fuck off before I own you again.

so much for your claim that i was 'making shit up" LOL

 

no wonder you run from me.

Don't forget this part. This is the best part:


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614

"Instead of choosing a best-ever Mr. Olympia, maybe all one can do is reflect on 40 years of Olympia history and highlight those instances where the winner ADVANCED the sport on that particular day. With that in mind, I would nominate the following."

"Ronnie Coleman | 1999

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic."

[bizzy]

I kind of thought this might end up being a truce thread 2
so I havn't responded since page 2. I want to make myself clear
since ND stated that I think Ronnie was in better condition in the 2001
AC than the 1999 O. This was my mistake for not explaining fully.
I wrote "Ronnie was 12 pounds heavier in 1999 than the 2001 AC. I'll take the extra 12 pounds over the
slight increase in conditioning he may have had at the 2001 AC.

Ronnie was more defined in one area @ the 2001 AC and it was the place he needed
it the least...Hams and Glutes. For this he traded 12 pounds of muscle that made him
look less impressive. Fullness is part of conditioning too. He was much fuller in 1999
which made him look bigger, more defined when not flexing, and probably harder because the muscles
are fuller, pressing against the skin. I have no proof that his obliques were as nearly defined in
2001 as to 1999. His shoulder to waist differential was better in 1999 and he had less of a gut
in 1999. I could go on and on. If you are talking about just being ripped to the bone then I think the
added defintion to his glutes and hams would give him the edge in 2001. If you are talking about overall
appearance and conditioning, then 1999 by a landslide.

1st and 2nd pic is hams and glutes 2001.
3rd pic is from 2001.
4th pic is from 1999.

[England_1]

Gotta love how the nutthuggers claim Dorian robber more deserving BBs yet overlook this disaster over Levrone 

[bizzy]

As far as Ronnie's calves being injected; they certainly weren't
in 1999. Too much definition showing to be enhanced. 

[driverant]

Greatest of all time in my life time? Yes

Greates in next hundred of thousand years? No

[bizzy]

Gotta love how the nutthuggers claim Dorian robber more deserving BBs yet overlook this disaster over Levrone 

Cutler certainly made a mistake by skipping that year. Ronnie could have easily won had he
dropped about 5 more pounds from the BFTO 2002 tape which would have brought him in at 270.
As far as Kevin goes, it is hard to beat a reigning champ and Ronnie still looked pretty good from the back.
The front double bicep pose was one of Ronnie's worst that year. Why Chad instructed Ronnie to drop
almost 30 pounds in 5 weeks is beyond me when he looked pretty damn good 5 weeks out.
Must have been hell on Ronnie to do that.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I kind of thought this might end up being a truce thread 2
so I havn't responded since page 2. I want to make myself clear
since ND stated that I think Ronnie was in better condition in the 2001
AC than the 1999 O. This was my mistake for not explaining fully.
I wrote "Ronnie was 12 pounds heavier in 1999 than the 2001 AC. I'll take the extra 12 pounds over the
slight increase in conditioning he may have had at the 2001 AC.

Ronnie was more defined in one area @ the 2001 AC and it was the place he needed
it the least...Hams and Glutes. For this he traded 12 pounds of muscle that made him
look less impressive. Fullness is part of conditioning too. He was much fuller in 1999
which made him look bigger, more defined when not flexing, and probably harder because the muscles
are fuller, pressing against the skin. I have no proof that his obliques were as nearly defined in
2001 as to 1999. His shoulder to waist differential was better in 1999 and he had less of a gut
in 1999. I could go on and on. If you are talking about just being ripped to the bone then I think the
added defintion to his glutes and hams would give him the edge in 2001. If you are talking about overall
appearance and conditioning, then 1999 by a landslide.

1st and 2nd pic is hams and glutes 2001.
3rd pic is from 2001.
4th pic is from 1999.

again your opinion Ronnie 99 had better overall conditioning than 2001 is nonsense , you and Hulkser are the only two claiming this NO ONE else his , Ronnie's high water mark for his best showing ever is either 1998 or 2001 Arnold Classic specifically because his conditioning is better especially compared to 1999.

[Hulkster]

Don't forget this part. This is the best part:


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614

"Instead of choosing a best-ever Mr. Olympia, maybe all one can do is reflect on 40 years of Olympia history and highlight those instances where the winner ADVANCED the sport on that particular day. With that in mind, I would nominate the following."

"Ronnie Coleman | 1999

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic."

good catch!

ahahahaha hey ND what are you going to do now? you are FUCKED.

right here in black and white Peter is saying that Ronnie 99 advanced the sport, notice, ahead of dorian, ahead of EVERYONE!

the article ENDS WITH RONNIE 99!  hahahahahaha

According to Peter McGough, as of Sept 2005 at least Ronnie Coleman 1999 is the best most advanced physique we have seen to date.

hahahahahhaah

run away little boy. go and hide now


hahahhahahhaa

I love it.

ND you are totally fucked now!