Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Fatpanda]

wrong.

if you know what you are talking about in terms of bodybuilding, the fact that nasser owned dorian from the front is about as factual as you can get.

 and no matter how hard you try, your opinon will never have any positive supporting evidence. it is nothing but unsubstantiated bullshit. but because you have the right to state your opinion, you think that makes it true.

it doesn't: as you can see quite clearly:

nasser always owned dorian from the front.

nasser looks amazing in these pics 

a true olympian and all time great physique 

[Shockwave]

wrong.

if you know what you are talking about in terms of bodybuilding, the fact that nasser owned dorian from the front is about as factual as you can get.

 and no matter how hard you try, your opinon will never have any positive supporting evidence. it is nothing but unsubstantiated bullshit. but because you have the right to state your opinion, you think that makes it true.

it doesn't: as you can see quite clearly:

nasser always owned dorian from the front.

Yeah... this is the same as that shot of Dorian and nasser doing MM.
This is why pics dont tell all, fucktard.

[RocketSwitch625]

Yeah... this is the same as that shot of Dorian and nasser doing MM.
This is why pics dont tell all, fucktard.

It really shows off his depth unlike the picture Hulkster posted earlier. And you are right about the crowd reaction on the video too. His MM pose is hugely underrated IMO.

[Shockwave]

Its not that great head on, but from a slight angle its rediculous.
Ronnie still takes that pose IMO tho, Especially because his midsection is hidden, and it shows off his strengths (arms and quads).... but it also shows off his balance issues (calves to quads, forearm to upper arm).
I think its one of Dorians weaker poses, only because Arms are not his strong point. That pose is totally an Arms pose, not to mention its the pose that tends to hide the most flaws... anybody with great arms looks amazing in the most muscular. (There are exceptions, of course). Check out Phil Heaths FTW.

[beefcakeblake]

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 dorian makes ronnie look soft and un conditioned

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[bodybuilder1234]

[/img]http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy157.jpg/img]
 

[img]http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy187.jpg/img]

 dorian makes ronnie look soft and un conditioned

[img]http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc53.jpg/img]

epic fail on first post

[bodybuilder1234]

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 dorian makes ronnie look soft and un conditioned

[beefcakeblake]

 
 

[JP_RC]

Same contest:

Same contest:

[JP_RC]

I just signed to Getbig and this thread got my attention instantly. Its crazy.

I don't understand how can Ronnie vs Dorian even be a topic of discussion, its simple:

Ronnie at his best destroys Dorian at his best.

[Shockwave]

I just signed to Getbig and this thread got my attention instantly. Its crazy.

I don't understand how can Ronnie vs Dorian even be a topic of discussion, its simple:

Ronnie at his best destroys Dorian at his best.

Hi Hulkster. 

[JP_RC]

Hi Hulkster. 

 

I'm not Hulkster though.

[Skeletor]

I just signed to Getbig and this thread got my attention instantly. Its crazy.

I don't understand how can Ronnie vs Dorian even be a topic of discussion, its simple:

Ronnie at his best destroys Dorian at his best.

This thread just got a new lease on life  

[Shockwave]

I'm not Hulkster though.

I know, your just a carbon copy of him. You didn't even include why Ronnie destroys Dorian. You simply stated an opinion with absolutley no reasoning behind it.  
So far both of your posts I read almost word for word mimic him.
Especially the one where you said you wouldnt include Dorian in the best FLS. lol.

[Valane]

Comparing Ronnie to Dorian is like comparing horse shit to dog shit. Big white blob of muscle, big black blob of muscle. They both suck. End of thread.

[Shockwave]

Comparing Ronnie to Dorian is like comparing horse shit to dog shit. Big white blob of muscle, big black blob of muscle. They both suck. End of thread.

Lol. Well at least its obvious your not biased one way or the other.

[Hulkster]

Comparing Ronnie to Dorian is like comparing horse shit to dog shit. Big white blob of muscle, big black blob of muscle. They both suck. End of thread.

I disagree. but I think we need more discussion on this.

[beefcakeblake]

I disagree. but I think we need more discussion on this.

both the pics you posted look weird and plus thats the worst dorian pick ive ever seen.



its not dorian at his best but at least it's better than your pic

[suckmymuscle]

ps dorian made nasser look like shit? from the back maybe. from the front dorian got owned.

  Dorian actually defeated Nasser from the front in every way. In the front relaxed, front lat spread, abs-and-thighs and front double biceps.

not surprising though. unlike ronnie, dorian was nothing special from the front.

  When standing relaxed, no he wasn't special, although still pretty good for a guy who was 270 lbs. But in the front mandatoties he killed: the best front lat spread ever and one of the best abs-and-thighs for a man that size.

[Tyr]

The battle continues.....

[Mr Nobody]

The battle continues.....

It wont be resolved until 2012.

[JP_RC]

I know, your just a carbon copy of him. You didn't even include why Ronnie destroys Dorian. You simply stated an opinion with absolutley no reasoning behind it.  
So far both of your posts I read almost word for word mimic him.
Especially the one where you said you wouldnt include Dorian in the best FLS. lol.

I thought I didn't need to include any reasons.

But here you go:

- From the front Ronnie destroys Yates, he has better detail, more striations and in 98-99 was just as good in conditioning. Dorian had better density, but that wouldn't do a thing when he had poor detail and striations from the front.
- Ronnie in 98-99 had a much better taper than Dorian and I actually think his symmetry, balance and proportions were better.
- Ronnie kills Dorian in a bodypart analysis alone, except for calves and abs.
- What is the common reason most Dorian fans give him winning over his competition? His back and all the back poses right? They say Dorian's superior back development is what allowed him to beat his competition, but that would NOT be an advantage against Ronnie.

[JP_RC]

Comparing Ronnie to Dorian is like comparing horse shit to dog shit. Big white blob of muscle, big black blob of muscle. They both suck. End of thread.

True for some part, but Ronnie in 98-99 was great and Dorian in 93 was also very good.

After both of their respective best years they went downhill that's for sure.

I'm not even a fan of the "mass monsters", but taking the criteria of mass monster over anything else, Ronnie still beats Dorian.

[JP_RC]

both the pics you posted look weird and plus thats the worst dorian pick ive ever seen.



its not dorian at his best but at least it's better than your pic

Shawn>Dorian in that pose.

[Shockwave]

I thought I didn't need to include any reasons.

But here you go:

- From the front Ronnie destroys Yates, he has better detail, more striations and in 98-99 was just as good in conditioning. Dorian had better density, but that wouldn't do a thing when he had poor detail and striations from the front.
- Ronnie in 98-99 had a much better taper than Dorian and I actually think his symmetry, balance and proportions were better.
- Ronnie kills Dorian in a bodypart analysis alone, except for calves and abs.
- What is the common reason most Dorian fans give him winning over his competition? His back and all the back poses right? They say Dorian's superior back development is what allowed him to beat his competition, but that would NOT be an advantage against Ronnie.

Ronnies balance and proportion is terrible.  Quads dwarf calves, Upper arms dwarf forearms. Short torso, fucked up midsection. Id say bloated gut, but really he held it in check in his poses as well as Dorian so thats a non issue.

Your scoring Ronnie exactly how Hulkster does,... Looking at personal opinions and not what a bb show is judged by. Muscular Bulk - Dorian is heavier than Ronnie at their respective bests, assuming your not claiming 2003 is Ronnies best. He IMO carries slightly more mass.
Balance and Proportion - Dorian is much more complete, everything is balanced. Quads to Calves, Upper arms to forearms, Upper body to lower body.
Taper is not a juding criteria. Its a non issue. If the best taper won, Orville Burke would be Mr. Olympia.
Just because you look at Ronnie and he is more pleasing to your eye doesnt make him the better  BB by the judging standard. BTW you cannot look at individual bodyparts because then simply the person with the better bunch of bodyparts wins.
Conditioning - Ronnie never displeyed the kind of conditioning Dorian carried in 95. I dont think he did in 93. Dorian back in 93 and 95, looked like a fucking road map carved out of granite. Ronnie had that marshmellowy looking subqutaneous water Musculature in 99. In 98 he was much drier and tighter, but lacked the size to knock Dorian off.

IMO Dorian simply has less flaws than Ronnie. He is the more complete package at his best, with at worst equal conditioning. Dorians only weak point was truely his biceps. Thats it.