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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5400 on: July 04, 2006, 09:55:08 PM »
Oliver, now I know that you are Sucky's left nut.  You are even more delusional than him.  Only you feel that as Dorian got bigger he got better.  My God man, open your eyes.  At least Ronnie has striations, vascularity, taper and extreme conditioning.  Dorian looked like complete shit in 1994/1997.  He looked average (for a Mr. Olympia) in 1996.  In 1993, he looked damn good and would have placed a nice second to Ronnie, but in the others he would have been lucky to beat Jay Cutler of the past few years.  The fact is this, you claim he would have continued to win if he competed.  I can honestly say if Dorian 1998 would have beaten Ronnie 1998; the bodybuilding community would have left in droves.  Ronnie was bigger, harder and incredibly conditioned.  Dorian was bulbous, an aesthetic mess and looked like a used up bodybuilder.  By your logic, Dorian would have never won if Haney kept on competing.  And BTW, Haney's back taper far exceeded Dorian ever.  His upper back was thicker and his taper better.  The only way Dorian beat him was a better lower back.  Haney's back was massive; ND will even agree.  You are the most delusional of the three.  So Oliver, if Dorian won just on precedent; why would Haney continue to win (just curious how you come to such a conclusion)?  If you state Dorian would have won in 1993, I counter that Ronnie would have won in 1998 (He looked far better than Dorian had for at least five years).  Ok Ollie, let us hear your rational reasoning now.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5401 on: July 04, 2006, 10:36:02 PM »
The rest of him easily disposed of the best of the 90s .

only because he was bigger, with lats. Not better.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5402 on: July 04, 2006, 10:43:53 PM »
It's hard to believe that this mess would've been permitted to continue, even in the IFBB.. :'(

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5403 on: July 04, 2006, 11:04:33 PM »
hulkster is full of hate,he must be very sad.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5404 on: July 04, 2006, 11:05:47 PM »
thoe lowest skum is someone who doesnt accept a truce,just pure lowlife.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5405 on: July 04, 2006, 11:35:58 PM »
go away newbie.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5406 on: July 05, 2006, 12:15:04 AM »
only because he was bigger, with lats. Not better.



Says who ? you the internet-fan-boy?  ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5407 on: July 05, 2006, 04:43:54 AM »
ND, what are you?  Are you not an internet fan boy.  At least I have seen Dorian in person at the Mr. Olympia.  It may have been a couple of years before his alltime best condtioning, but I saw the man up close and personal as I was in the front ten rows.  I also saw Haney, and he plain had a better taper, thicker torso and is the last Mr. Olympia to have a vacuum when he poses.  By your criteria, if you gut isn't flat, you should not be Mr. Olympia.  Well, Dorian always had a bulbous belly.  It was apparent against Haney.  It got much more pronounced the longer he competed and added mucles (?).  Five of those twenty pounds he put on over his career were in his obliques and abdominal organs (thus the distension).  Regardless, unless you have been to a pro show (I have been to two) and have met many a pro in Miami (oh no, Sucky now knows my general location  ::) ::) ::) ::)).  When did you meet Haney, Dorian, or Ronnie for that matter.  Give us the scoop.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5408 on: July 05, 2006, 05:50:45 AM »














Although I don't mind conceding that Yates probably wins the bottom back pose, I would say these are mostly good comparisons (unlike the one's where Yates is mysteriously taller than Coleman) that show Coleman's overall dominance through sheer detail and shape, complete with huge arms and legs - which beat forearms and obliques any day of the week.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5409 on: July 05, 2006, 02:10:40 PM »
Once the can of worms is opened with an acknowledgement that the fix was in on even one Olympia, there's no reason to think it didn't apply elsewhere.

When I said Yates is the Columbu of the 90s I wasn't kidding-has about the same silhouette (all torso) and was equally undeserving in some years.

  I agree with you, poop. The 2001/2/3/4 Olympias were fixed: there's no way in hell Ronnie should have on any of those years. I'm willing to concede that Weider conspires to keep current standard-bearers winning the Sandow. So, if Dorian didn't deserve to win in 1996/7, then Ronnie didn't deserve to win in the years I've mentioned either. It goes both ways, poop. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5410 on: July 05, 2006, 02:13:54 PM »
ND's perception of "balance". The guy on the left is and the guy on the right isn't.





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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5411 on: July 05, 2006, 02:41:11 PM »
ND's perception of "balance". The guy on the left is and the guy on the right isn't.







You got that right !

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5412 on: July 05, 2006, 02:44:46 PM »

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ND, what are you?  Are you not an internet fan boy.
ND is the pot calling the kettle black.

and a retarded pot at that :P

ND is the "Delusional Ironager Internet Fan Boy"

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5413 on: July 05, 2006, 02:47:23 PM »
ND is the pot calling the kettle black.

and a retarded pot at that :P

ND is the "Delusional Ironager Internet Fan Boy"



lol Hey Royalty called you that initialy and it applies  ;) and the difference between you and I is , I can admit Ronnie used to be great but you think Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder who ever lived  ;) who is delusional now? internet-fan-boy?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5414 on: July 05, 2006, 02:51:53 PM »
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I would say these are mostly good comparisons (unlike the one's where Yates is mysteriously taller than Coleman) that show Coleman's overall dominance through sheer detail and shape, complete with huge arms and legs - which beat forearms and obliques any day of the week.

agree 100%

How ND and co cannot see what everyone else is seeing is beyond comprehension.

ND is the only ironager who doesn't care that much about detail, shape and taper.. ::)


As I said before, he can go on about how dorian is better but he can't explain why using traditional judging standards (detail, shape, taper, vascularity etc)

In fact, he actually tries to claim that the traditional judging standards are not important (eg. his crazy argument that the judges do not care about V/X-taper or vascularity) simply because Dorian is flawed in these aspects compared to Ronnie ::)

He takes pictures where Ronnie is totally destroying Yates in every way, and then says that Yates wins because he has "better balance" or "better proportion"

Problem is, no one can see these things except ND ::)

Admit it ND: using normal judging standards, Ronnie would win.

Everyone but you and sucky can see that.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5415 on: July 05, 2006, 02:52:57 PM »
This one's more dominating-Yates looking like a kid, which is why ND relates. 

How embarassing!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5416 on: July 05, 2006, 02:54:29 PM »
This thread has entertained me for so long now... haha
As much as I prefer Dorian's physique, and as much as it pains me to say it...

1998 Ronnie would probably beat 1993 Dorian, in an unbiased, head to head contest.

Now, Ronnie probably would not have won, had Dorian not retired, simply due to the Olympia's politics.
This thread is so redundant it's not even funny.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5417 on: July 05, 2006, 02:54:30 PM »
Another EMBARASSMENT..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5418 on: July 05, 2006, 02:54:49 PM »
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I can admit Ronnie used to be great

no you can't.

You can't even admit that Ronnie has better arms than dorian or better quads than Arnold ::)

you can't even admit the most obvious strengths of Ronnie's physique, past or present.



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5419 on: July 05, 2006, 02:56:01 PM »
Another EMBARASSMENT..

hahahahaha

better balance my ass.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5420 on: July 05, 2006, 02:57:07 PM »
Further humiliation..


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5421 on: July 05, 2006, 02:57:44 PM »
agree 100%

How ND and co cannot see what everyone else is seeing is beyond comprehension.

ND is the only ironager who doesn't care that much about detail, shape and taper.. ::)


As I said before, he can go on about how dorian is better but he can't explain why using traditional judging standards (detail, shape, taper, vascularity etc)

In fact, he actually tries to claim that the traditional judging standards are not important (eg. his crazy argument that the judges do not care about V/X-taper or vascularity) simply because Dorian is flawed in these aspects compared to Ronnie ::)

He takes pictures where Ronnie is totally destroying Yates in every way, and then says that Yates wins because he has "better balance" or "better proportion"

Problem is, no one can see these things except ND ::)

Admit it ND: using normal judging standards, Ronnie would win.

Everyone but you and sucky can see that.


Those pics he posted comparing they two are totaly flawed look at the front double bicep shot , both are 257lbs and Dorian's waist is smaller than Colemans? hello? Mcfly .
No scales they're from all different years etc.
 
Hulkster I've posted the ' traditional judging standards ' and according to the ' traditional judging standards '  Dorian outright beats Ronnie in most of the mandatory poses and posing and conditioning .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5422 on: July 05, 2006, 02:59:20 PM »
no you can't.

You can't even admit that Ronnie has better arms than dorian or better quads than Arnold ::)

you can't even admit the most obvious strengths of Ronnie's physique, past or present.





Ronnie 1996 up until the 2001 Arnold Classic was great beyond that he sucks .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5423 on: July 05, 2006, 02:59:34 PM »
Yates dragged by the hair, kicking & whining like ND..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5424 on: July 05, 2006, 03:00:25 PM »

 :o
Yates simply cannot compete with Ronnie's upper body.
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