Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[sculpture]

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No Ronald Dean Coleman? say it isn't so? lol

ND - where was dorian on flexs greatest arms feature?

HAHA. You find it okay to use their doctrine list  onlywhen it suits you.

Classic

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, one thing that you have to remember is this:

If you were to look at all of the "name the best ever physique ever seen onstage" threads on Getbig.com and probably a lot of the other boards out there, you will probably find two names mentioned more than ANY other:

they are:

1. Flex Wheeler 1993 Arnold Classic condition



and

2. Ronald Dean Coleman, 2001 Arnold Classic condition.



Says a lot right there, doesn't it.

Hell, even the head of the ironage site metioned Ronnie's AC condition - that should tell you something right there.



so, your eye-rolling at the praise that peak Ronnie is getting totally WRONG and UNWARRANTED.

Your constant and consistant derogetory statements about Yates is unwarrented so don't be hypocritical   and Flex 1993 ASC didn't have a gut lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND - where was dorian on flexs greatest arms feature?

HAHA. You find it okay to use their doctrine list  onlywhen it suits you.

Classic

So me one quote where I said Dorian has top 20 ARMS  again typical Coleman fan ( hypocritical ) and how could Ronnie not be on that list? oh thats right its Flex magazine and they're biased against Ronnie  when thats all you have to work with .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Aside from being larger, Dorian's waist is more square, much like Cutler's.  Ronnie's is more tapered.

No one ever claimed his taper was ' better ' than Ronnies just better than he's geven credit for and again how could they both weigh the exact same and Ronnie has ' more mass ' ? lol

[sculpture]

So me one quote where I said Dorian has top 20 ARMS  again typical Coleman fan ( hypocritical ) and how could Ronnie not be on that list? oh thats right its Flex magazine and they're biased against Ronnie  when thats all you have to work with .

Your never ending insistence that dorian > ronnie on arms is all the i need.

How could coleman on the list but not yates?

Heres a clue: BECAUSE DORIANS ARMS ARENT GOOD ENOUGH!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Your never ending insistence that dorian > ronnie on arms is all the i need.

How could coleman on the list but not yates?

Heres a clue: BECAUSE DORIANS ARMS ARENT GOOD ENOUGH!

I've said Dorian has better triceps & forearms and better balance . like I've said before perhaps I worded it wrong , but I stand by that statment , and his arms were good enough to beat Ronnie eight times  so much for your theory .

[sculpture]

I've said Dorian has better triceps & forearms and better balance . like I've said before perhaps I worded it wrong , but I stand by that statment , and his arms were good enough to beat Ronnie eight times   so much for your theory .

No you've stated dorians arms are better than colemans through your twisted logic that "better balance = better arms".

Stop backtracking.

Once again your insistence on th evalue of numbers is your downfall.

[pumpster]

sorry slick, that mag and that list is one dudes opinion...yours isn't worth anymore or anyless...well wait a minute...you don't write for a mag so I guess his is worth more.

Flex's opinion is actually no better than anyone's else's; that stupid list proves it's probably worse.

[pumpster]

Quote from: Oliver Klaushof on Today at 02:00:04 AM
The first time I saw that Yates ab thigh shot I was speechless. In my opinion, it's the most impressive pic in all of bodybuilding. A man that big looking that shredded and detailed.

If all you could remember is ab & thighs it's rather obvious that Yates didn't have much else. Those are not the areas that should be the most memorable on a supposed "legend".

[pumpster]

Quote from: sculpture on Today at 04:43:15 AM
ND - where was dorian on flexs greatest arms feature?

HAHA. You find it okay to use their doctrine list  onlywhen it suits you.

Classic

So me one quote where I said Dorian has top 20 ARMS   again typical Coleman fan ( hypocritical ) and how could Ronnie not be on that list? oh thats right its Flex magazine and they're biased against Ronnie   when thats all you have to work with .

Hilarious-ND cornered by his own stupid Flex top-20s, talking gibberish not even coherent. hahahahhahaahahahhahahah aha

[Hulkster]

The first time I saw that Yates ab thigh shot I was speechless. In my opinion, it's the most impressive pic in all of bodybuilding. A man that big looking that shredded and detailed. It's unbelievable. He's got great taper there too because of his rediculous lats.

I guess you haven't seen this pic then, have you:


 

ps Dorian has shitty quads in your "best ever" ab and thigh shot .

[pumpster]

That shot pretty well demolishes all the effort made by Yates clones about any advantages. Abs similar but with better X-frame, better taper, smaller waist.

All that's really left now for Yates clones is calves & "graininess". Maybe "inner-thighs", addressing ND's fetish.

[Hulkster]

Aside from being larger, Dorian's waist is more square, much like Cutler's.  Ronnie's is more tapered.

exactly. ND has no idea what being aesthetic and having great lines is all about.

To him, if you made the top 20 Flex list, you are aesthetic and have great lines.

If not, you aren't.

To ND, its as simple as that:

the top 20 aesthetic list shoots down your theory that Coleman was aesthetic and had great lines lol bias that 

 

ND cannot and has never been able to use his own judgment. He has to use "top 20 lists", numbers, facts and figures to make his opinions for him.

He cannot formulate any on his own. He ignores pics, videos and anything visual (strange considering this is bodybuilding ) in favor of meaningless numbers and lists.

And, for the record, what opinions he does have are seldom in agreement with most normal people.


ronnie had a great natural shape. Just look at the quad sweep

[pumpster]

How could Ronnie have ' more mass ' if they both weigh 257lbs in those pics? and aesthetic

I will explain BB basics to ND once, but only once:

1/ No one's fixated on bodyweights except you.

2/ Yates' weight was all in a blockish bricklayer's torso including barrel chest, so his limbs are nowhere close. That's why he's known as the Columbu of the 90s-they had the same problems.

3/ Yates never had the tapers involving more size going down to smaller underlying bone structures.

[Hulkster]

Some shots from the famous 2001 Arnold Classic:


no construction worker taper here..


front double biceps..


got back?


ronnie has some of the best looking side leg shots in all of bodybuilding.. I can picture Dorian drooling right now..

[Hulkster]

hahaha

[Hulkster]

there is a growing collection of "yates being owned" shots.

The same cannot be said of "peak" ronnie..


 

[NarcissisticDeity]

exactly. ND has no idea what being aesthetic and having great lines is all about.

To him, if you made the top 20 Flex list, you are aesthetic and have great lines.

If not, you aren't.

To ND, its as simple as that:

 

ND cannot and has never been able to use his own judgment. He has to use "top 20 lists", numbers, facts and figures to make his opinions for him.

He cannot formulate any on his own. He ignores pics, videos and anything visual (strange considering this is bodybuilding ) in favor of meaningless numbers and lists.

And, for the record, what opinions he does have are seldom in agreement with most normal people.


ronnie had a great natural shape. Just look at the quad sweep

I know more about aesthetics than you do obviously , especially considering you think Ronnie is. nice try but my opinions are my OWN you latch onto anything anyone says about Dorian and you cling to it , point , Dorian has crappy quads , or Dorian has a flat back lol where did you get that one?  

And using your logic just because Dorian didn't make the 20 best arms list that means nothing so you can't have it both ways , either Dorian doesn't have great arms and shouldn't be on the list or Ronnie isn't aesthetic and shouldn't be on the list , hypocritical?

I have my own opinions I'm not a leech like you who cling onto ANYTHING anyone says negative about Dorian and follow suit , I do come to my own conclusions if I didn't how could I say Dorian has better arms overall?   and unlike you I tend to back up most of my claims with facts something you ignore ,so you put together my original opinions coupled with facts and MOST of the time I'm usally right , when you have an original opinion you say " Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder ever " or " Matt Mendenhall was blocky " and " Pre-Ronnie has better aesthetics than Mendenhall " "  Dorian's conditioning was a myth " " Shawn Ray owned Dorian in the back double biceps shot " " Ronnie is balanced & proportioned " lol while they are original they're all nonsense

again perhaps I shouldn't have worded it that Dorian has better arms than Ronnie. but I will say that he has better forearms and triceps than Ronnie and have backed that up with pictures

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahaha

You post pictures of where Dorian won and yet claim he's getting owned lol great logic .

[Hulkster]

just because dorian won does not necessarily mean he should have.

1994
1996
1997..

[NarcissisticDeity]

just because dorian won does not necessarily mean he should have.

1994
1996
1997..

94 & 96 was no contest 97 he should have lost . and according to the score cards it wasn't even close , like Ronnie in 98/01/02/04/

do you know that there was controversy in 94 and it was NOT over Yates win  , it was Shawn beating Kevin when he was accounced 3rd the crowd was pissed , 01 was probably on par with 80 was controversy is concerned 94 wasn't .

[pumpster]

You post pictures of where Dorian won and yet claim he's getting owned lol great logic

It's just those silly little details that keep getting in the way, the fact that every time he's shown standing beside other good BBs he comes in last.

[NarcissisticDeity]

It's just those silly little details that keep getting in the way, the fact that every time he's shown standing beside other good BBs he comes in last.

Comes in last according to who? a bunch of biased guys lol you'd make a great judge 

[pumpster]

Comes in last according to who? a bunch of biased guys lol you'd make a great judge

I would, actually. I've gotten everything right, and never obsess on numbers like some of the beginners here. hahahahhaahhahahahah

[NarcissisticDeity]

I would, actually. I've gotten everything right, and never obsess on numbers like some of the beginners here. hahahahhaahhahahahah

Sure you would and you would always pick the guy with the biggest ass , gut and the smallest calves lol who are we kidding you couldn't follow the IFBB judging criteria , you're not that bright .