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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6225 on: July 15, 2006, 10:15:40 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6226 on: July 15, 2006, 10:16:41 AM »
Great pics man
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6227 on: July 15, 2006, 10:21:57 AM »
Great pics man

Whats funny is how this kid says " Yates only looks good standing alone " dispite almost getting straight firsts in all of his olympia wins lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6228 on: July 15, 2006, 10:27:30 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6229 on: July 15, 2006, 10:32:31 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6230 on: July 15, 2006, 10:39:43 AM »
Man, Yates just slaughters everyone from the back - no contest  8)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6231 on: July 15, 2006, 10:49:13 AM »
Unfortunately, from the front which counts more, Yates is rarely the best!  :'(

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6232 on: July 15, 2006, 10:52:41 AM »
Unfortunately, from the front which counts more, Yates is rarely the best!  :'(

can't argue with this - but in some poses, such as the side tricep, and front lat spread, Yates dominated.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6233 on: July 15, 2006, 10:54:39 AM »
Oh, I would like to dispute your claim that the front is the most important, I think we all know that THE BACK is the key bodypart to winning the Mr. Olympia. Why did Ronnie win in 2002? Becuase he dominated from the back. Same for 2001. Cutler slaughtered him from the front, Ronnie the same from the back. Look at Haney, he had the best back of his time..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6234 on: July 15, 2006, 11:10:17 AM »
While I agree Yates doesn't look spectacular standing relaxed from the front , and pleanty of other guys have better front double biceps shots , two shots Yates ownes from the front are the latspread & ab-thigh , couple that with among the best sidechest/side triceps and turn around they all add up to Dorian-Domination .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6235 on: July 15, 2006, 11:12:58 AM »
Oh, I would like to dispute your claim that the front is the most important, I think we all know that THE BACK is the key bodypart to winning the Mr. Olympia. Why did Ronnie win in 2002? Becuase he dominated from the back. Same for 2001. Cutler slaughtered him from the front, Ronnie the same from the back. Look at Haney, he had the best back of his time..

Don't forget Samir in 93 before Haney since 83 and on a great back has been a prerequiste , and most of the Mr Olympia winners all have had outstanding backs.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6236 on: July 15, 2006, 11:59:36 AM »
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but in some poses, such as the side tricep, and front lat spread, Yates dominated.

In two of his best poses, Yates does not dominate against Coleman; probably a draw on two of his best shots.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6237 on: July 15, 2006, 12:01:13 PM »
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I would like to dispute your claim that the front is the most important, I think we all know that THE BACK is the key bodypart to winning the Mr. Olympia. Why did Ronnie win in 2002?

Maybe you can pull out a few examples where the back made the decisive difference in particular contests, but overall it's never as important.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6238 on: July 15, 2006, 12:01:52 PM »
In two of his best poses, Yates does not dominate against Coleman; probably a draw on two of his best shots.

I was referring to Yates' competition. He dominated them in those two poses. Also, how can we really compare Yates and Coleman in these two poses unless they were both on the same stage at the same time, both at their peak? ..That's why this thread is absurd

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6239 on: July 15, 2006, 12:04:41 PM »
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can we really compare Yates and Coleman in these two poses unless they were both on the same stage at the same time, both at their peak?

Well if you look back over the pics I think we've gotten close enough. The videos offer even more conclusive proof of Coleman's dominance but of course they've been ignored by Yates nut-huggers. ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6240 on: July 15, 2006, 12:47:40 PM »
In two of his best poses, Yates does not dominate against Coleman; probably a draw on two of his best shots.

Why do you fear posting pictures of Dorian at his best? I think its quite obvious why , that front latspread you posted was from 97 obviously NOT his best seeing he had a torn bicep/tricep/quad and that side tricep of Yates was from 92 while NOT his best much better than what you posted and a wise choice of you to post one with his pants on to avoid betting wasted in the lower legs , which by the way the judges are looking for . ;)

Compare these shots to any of Ronnie

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6241 on: July 15, 2006, 12:51:20 PM »
Maybe you can pull out a few examples where the back made the decisive difference in particular contests, but overall it's never as important.

Here you go running man Dorian had the superior back and if he didn't he would have been beaten out right by Nasser in 1997

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6242 on: July 15, 2006, 12:54:15 PM »
More fuel to the fire for the running man


Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.

The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6243 on: July 15, 2006, 01:10:16 PM »





how can anyone claim that Dorian has the greatest back in the world with a taper and rear double bi like this ???

Ronnie's back is superior in every way.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6244 on: July 15, 2006, 01:13:42 PM »




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6245 on: July 15, 2006, 01:20:39 PM »
those two comparisons are extremely similar, and would be very hard to judge between the two. Yates' posing would force Coleman to stick out his backside calf though on the side tri (as he did with Levrone) which would give Yates a big advantage.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6246 on: July 15, 2006, 01:25:07 PM »
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Yates' posing would force Coleman to stick out his backside calf though on the side tri (as he did with Levrone) which would give Yates a big advantage.
yup.

and Coleman would force Yates to actually flex his quad in the ab and thigh, thus giving him a big advantage:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6247 on: July 15, 2006, 01:25:32 PM »


how can anyone claim that Dorian has the greatest back in the world with a taper and rear double bi like this ???

Ronnie's back is superior in every way.

For you to say Ronnie's back is ' superior ' in every way shows your bias and outright lack of thought , at their respective bests they're backs are comparable , I'm sorry sport Ronnie doesn't have Dorian's thickness & Density , he may or may not match Yates on width at simlar weights and detail but thats about it , Dorian in my opinion has the better lowerback , a better sweep to his lats , out right thicker traps by far , you look at Dorian's traps from the back double bicep pose they're ungodly thick & huge , Ronnie has a better taper but overall I would say Dorian edges Ronnie out in the back dept at the same weights , for you to say " Ronnie's back is superior in every way "  is just riduclous .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6248 on: July 15, 2006, 01:26:54 PM »
yup.

and Coleman would force Yates to actually flex his quad in the ab and thigh, thus giving him a big advantage:


 8)


I agree with you.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6249 on: July 15, 2006, 01:27:39 PM »
yup.

and Coleman would force Yates to actually flex his quad in the ab and thigh, thus giving him a big advantage:


 8)


Dorian would be able to counter that with a much sharper & defined midsection plus better calves and overall balance couple that with extrem dryness and Ronnie would be left by the way side .