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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6850 on: July 22, 2006, 09:42:54 AM »
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Chris is absolutely outclassing Ronnie in the ad-thigh how Flex beat Chris is beyond me , I would love to see more pics from 99 because in a lot of them Chris looks better than Ronnie.

One of those unproven theories some hold on to like Hari Krishnas-Cormier was never that special, nothing ever jumped out screaming "special". Kinda like Yates in that respect-boring!

Wheeler & Coleman both clearly superior to Cormier or Yates.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6851 on: July 22, 2006, 09:45:28 AM »
Chris should have been second in 99, but no way did he beat this:


and thats the WORSE LOOKING HALF!! :o
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6852 on: July 22, 2006, 10:13:09 AM »
This thread is not even debatable...for those who have any doubts that Ron Coleman is the greatest Mr. Olympia ever (an by far)...please just look at this video, and do not post another reply to this thread again...

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6853 on: July 22, 2006, 10:22:18 AM »
actually, they look better than Dorian's:




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Coleman's thigh separation is pathetic there, not to mention no striations. Add the distended stomatch, pathetically shaped abs, and 93 ASC flex wipes the mat with him

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6854 on: July 22, 2006, 10:24:11 AM »
Coleman's thigh separation is pathetic there, not to mention no striations. Add the distended stomatch, pathetically shaped abs, and 93 ASC flex wipes the mat with him

of course his quads are pathetic - he is not flexing them yet!! ::)

What do you think about his quads in this shot, from the SAME contest:


perfection.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6855 on: July 22, 2006, 10:26:14 AM »
This thread is not even debatable...for those who have any doubts that Ron Coleman is the greatest Mr. Olympia ever (an by far)...please just look at this video, and do not post another reply to this thread again...

&search=99%20olympia

Camp Construction Worker has repeatedly ignored this dominating video.. ::)

It makes "the best of" Dorian Yates video look like a NPC nationals clip 8)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6856 on: July 22, 2006, 10:29:11 AM »
of course his quads are pathetic - he is not flexing them yet!! ::)

What do you think about his quads in this shot, from the SAME contest:


perfection.

That's your lame excuse for everything ..."oh he's not flexing"....just face it, genetics wise Coleman can't hang with Flex...when Flex is 100% lights out for coleman. Even in your "perfection" shot Flex would still win....even better thigh separation, fuller, rounder muscles, smaller joints, smaller waist, perfect midsection....

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6857 on: July 22, 2006, 10:33:31 AM »
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This thread is not even debatable...for those who have any doubts that Ron Coleman is the greatest Mr. Olympia ever (an by far)...please just look at this video, and do not post another reply to this thread again...

They ignore videos, getbig polls Coleman >> Yates, pics...

therefore, here's a best of Yates..I can't tell which are his "good" shots 'cause they're all pretty boring.  ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6858 on: July 22, 2006, 10:36:00 AM »
More "best of" Yates.. ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6859 on: July 22, 2006, 10:38:22 AM »
"Best of Yates" cont'd *YAWN*

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6860 on: July 22, 2006, 10:44:26 AM »
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That's your lame excuse for everything ..."oh he's not flexing"....

well, gee, maybe thats because in 99.999% of the shots used by the dorian fans in this thead, he ISN'T!!

Here is a small sampling of some of the ronnie pics used in this thread:


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you are an idiot.

Its not an 'excuse" - its the truth. Open your eyes. Watch the videos.

stop sounding like ND.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6861 on: July 22, 2006, 10:46:53 AM »
The funny thing about this picture is that Ronnie has worse thigh separation and far far worse midsection than flex and they are both flexing THE SAME. Neither Flex's nor Ronnie's leg is fully extended. And this is flex hardly at his best....he is nothing more here than a oiled up, washed up version of himself in 93. Get real.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6862 on: July 22, 2006, 11:00:50 AM »
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The funny thing about this picture is that Ronnie has worse thigh separation and far far worse midsection than flex and they are both flexing THE SAME.

-They're on different angles, rendering your assessment questionable.

-Coleman's thighs are about twice the size-even if were true that the cuts aren't as pronounced (debatable), he could still look better with better size and good cuts. Having better cuts is only one factor, which you've ignored.

-As I've already said, Coleman's waist was bigger than Wheeler's, but his lats and shoulders were so much wider than Wheeler's that he still had a huge advantage in V that you've left out of the equation.

An advantage in six-packs has historically meant little when compared with the value of a small waist coupled with wide lats and shoulders = good taper.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6863 on: July 22, 2006, 11:14:32 AM »
-They're on different angles, rendering your assessment questionable.



The fact that you would resort to a retort as lame as this is absolutely laughable.

Here we have a washed up, oiled up, lazy ass, flex wheeler clearly having better cuts in his thighs than Coleman, and a much much better midsection. Do you honestly think this version of flex is better than 93 ASC? Get real. Coleman has size, no doubt. But, Flex at 100% is just too much for Coleman. Hell, even Shawn Ray said that when Flex is on, he is perfection and he would have no problem with him being mr. olympia, and we all know how much Shawn bitches about the judging.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6864 on: July 22, 2006, 11:14:45 AM »
of course his quads are pathetic - he is not flexing them yet!! ::)

What do you think about his quads in this shot, from the SAME contest:


perfection.

I repeat in case this was missed. ronnie's quad cuts in 1999 were fantastic.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6865 on: July 22, 2006, 11:17:59 AM »
I repeat in case this was missed. ronnie's quad cuts in 1999 were fantastic.

And still inferior to Flex...

Again here is Flex not even at his best...look at the fullness, the striations everwhere, the muscle shape....just too much for Coleman


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6866 on: July 22, 2006, 11:19:06 AM »
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Flex at 100% is just too much for Coleman

More dumbness-this is you wishing so as opposed to reality. Wheeler was the 2nd best BB of the last 20 years-better than Yates or Haney. Closer but not quite on par with Coleman who beats him soundly in several areas regardless of whether or not you want to acknowledge it. ;D ;D ;D


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flex wheeler clearly having better cuts in his thighs than Coleman, and a much much better midsection.

A simplistic appraisal-where did you figure out that one factor, like thighs cuts or six-pack, is all that matters? You're biased.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6867 on: July 22, 2006, 11:23:19 AM »
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look at the fullness, the striations everwhere, the muscle shape....

Completely in love with Wheeler, only picks out the attributes like cuts & six-packs that favor his choice. So much for a balanced appraisal!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6868 on: July 22, 2006, 11:24:10 AM »
More dumbness-this is you wishing so as opposed to reality. Wheeler was the 2nd best BB of the last 20 years-better than Yates or Haney. Closer but not quite on par with Coleman who beats him soundly in several areas regardless of whether or not you want to acknowledge it. ;D ;D ;D


A simplistic appraisal-where did you figure out that thighs cuts were the only criteria genius? or that a six-pack is essential over all other factors re: midsection? You're biased.

Ok...flex has not only better cuts, but better SHAPE, better fullness, smaller joints, longer muscle bellies, more striations (ronnie rarely has any in his quads...)...

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6869 on: July 22, 2006, 11:25:56 AM »
Completely in love with Wheeler, only picks out the attributes like cuts & six-packs that favor his choice. So much for a balanced appraisal!

haha....you've melted down!!! :D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6870 on: July 22, 2006, 11:26:47 AM »
Nice to see that you still bitch who would be better, Ronnie or Dorian, when there's a man that clearly beat and dwarfs them both.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6871 on: July 22, 2006, 11:28:34 AM »
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flex has not only better cuts, but better SHAPE, better fullness, smaller joints, longer muscle bellies, more striations

Still not getting it because of your bias. You have to go through each criteria, not just the ones that in your bias you choose to highlight.

Shape-subjective-i don't see any advantage for either of them.

Fullness-same

Smaller joints-yes BUT Coleman's muscles are bigger = similar tapers all over a bigger frame = Coleman wins.

Longer muscle bellies-does anyone care other than you even if it's true?

Striations-arguable

Size-Coleman

Width-Coleman

Overall size-Coleman

Tapers-Coleman-the lat/shoulder to waist ratio is better than Wheeler's

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6872 on: July 22, 2006, 11:30:10 AM »
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Quote from: pumpster on Today at 02:23:19 PM
Completely in love with Wheeler, only picks out the attributes like cuts & six-packs that favor his choice. So much for a balanced appraisal!

haha....you've melted down!!!

Talk about mis-using a buzz-phrase. I've melted down by calmly, systematically picking apart your lame biased diatribe against Coleman? hahahahahahahahahah

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6873 on: July 22, 2006, 11:30:22 AM »
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But, Flex at 100% is just too much for Coleman.

debatable - Ronnie's width is a HUGE advantage:






with Ronnie at 100% as well, he would loose some key mandatories..



but it would be really, really close..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #6874 on: July 22, 2006, 11:35:32 AM »
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But, Flex at 100% is just too much for Coleman.

There goes your biased silly blanket statement. They share a lot of the same attributes, with either one being marginally better on any one criteria but in the end Coleman's a lot bigger and wider. His waist can be bigger because everything else is.