Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Speaking of which, the Yates pics NEED morphing..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Its ironic that ND is critical of us bashing dorian when he bashes Ronnie so bad he says crazy things like Dorian has better arms or Arnold has better quads.

This thread has been 23 pages of mostly people trying to talk sense into ND to realize how good Ronnie was compared to Dorian.

And he is saying that we are disrepecting Dorian.

What about the bizarre things he says about Coleman's physique.

 

What school of logic did you go to? saying Arnold had better quad development than Ronnie is ' bashing him ' ? how did you make that leap? and ita all the guys who don't have a legitimate point to mak who are redeuced to the lowest common denominator by bashing

This thread was intended to say " Hey enoughs enough , people are sick of US lets just stop " and you feel like you haven't convinced the world that Ronnie is the best so you said " No " okay , what its turned into is mean just obliterating you for 25 pages , its not even fun anymore , its like taking candy from a baby , like shoting fish in a barrel , you lack a challenge , the only reason I even bother responding to you is because you insist on quoting me wrong and I argue my point , find me one single tread I've started in a long time that directly compares Dorian and Ronnie , there was a few you were involved in and I didn't even bother , so you want to keep going , have at it , I'm like a pit bull , you have to kill me before I quit !! and this severe and brutal OWNING is ..........

[sculpture]

No pumpster, its clear from that shot that dorian has the superior arm to ronnie. Better balance, cuts, fullness, vascularity!

I can't believe people on this board have tolerated such utter hogwash from ND for so long. It stops now!

[phyxsius]

ND.. I didn't know suckmymuscle is your "partner"

[The Ugly]

Based on the length and depth of each post, ND, you could be rapping up your "Why Dorian Kicks Much Ass" dissertation by now.

[Hulkster]

What school of logic did you go to? saying Arnold had better quad development than Ronnie is ' bashing him ' ? how did you make that leap? and ita all the guys who don't have a legitimate point to mak who are redeuced to the lowest common denominator by bashing

This thread was intended to say " Hey enoughs enough , people are sick of US lets just stop " and you feel like you haven't convinced the world that Ronnie is the best so you said " No " okay , what its turned into is mean just obliterating you for 25 pages , its not even fun anymore , its like taking candy from a baby , like shoting fish in a barrel , you lack a challenge , the only reason I even bother responding to you is because you insist on quoting me wrong and I argue my point , find me one single tread I've started in a long time that directly compares Dorian and Ronnie , there was a few you were involved in and I didn't even bother , so you want to keep going , have at it , I'm like a pit bull , you have to kill me before I quit !! and this severe and brutal OWNING is ..........

LOL - ND here is some news:

you have not been obliterating me for the last 25 pages.

you and suckdorianscock are the only ones on this board who believe that dorian was better.

the rest of the board is not blinded by bias and hate.

oh, and for the record, you are getting made fun of in about 3 different threads right now

that just shows you that very few agree with you, and I, in the opinion of most, have kicked your refridgerator loving ass for the last 25 pages!!


ps and yes, when you saying stuff that is so crazy (like dorian has better  arms than ronnie or Arnold has better quads) YES you are BASHING RONNIE because the only reason that anyone would say something so retarded is to discredit Ronnie.

no one in their right mind would believe that Ronnie at his best had worse quads than arnold or worse arms than dorian unless they were taking a shot at him

[natural al]

sorry Hulkster, I'm not going to go into why but I do think Dorian was better than Ronnie...same with Haney...some pics Ronnie looks incredible but for the most part the guy has been a bloated pig for the last few years, it's embarrising.

[Hulkster]

sorry Hulkster, I'm not going to go into why but I do think Dorian was better than Ronnie...same with Haney...some pics Ronnie looks incredible but for the most part the guy has been a bloated pig for the last few years, it's embarrising.

you could say the exact same thing about dorian..



ps Ronnie version 2005 did not look like a bloated pig.

[Shockwave]

Ironically... I agree with ND's stance on Dorian being better also.. However, im not getting into it either. Although Ronnie 96-98 was outstanding.

[pumpster]

sorry Hulkster, I'm not going to go into why but I do think Dorian was better than Ronnie...same with Haney...some pics Ronnie looks incredible but for the most part the guy has been a bloated pig for the last few years, it's embarrising.

Haney & Yates both had superior muscle quality-accompanied by serious balance issues in which their torsos were disproportionate. If they'd both been in proportion they'd have been special, especially Haney who lacked arm and leg size and had odd shape.

[nicorulez]

Suckmytool, you are a complete dipshit.  Where the fuck did you get that I was latino and hated Yates because he is white?  Have you read my posts.  I simply state that in the post 1993 era (he was good in 1995 also but not like 1993), Yates physique went downhill.  I don't hate Yates you moron.  You post morphed pics and such and rant on and on; you my friend are clinically insane or mentally retarded.  BTW, I am not latino, I am Italian/Russian.  Fuck you and your racist garbage.  I like Dorian circa 1993.  I could give a rats ass that Ronnie is black; I too make fun of his speach.  He has the better physique.  If you ask me, Dennis Newman in the early nineties was the epitome of mass with class.  Guess what stooge, he is white.  I also like Ruhl; am I a racist pig now?  Sheesh, you truly are the most deluded person on this board.  You are a grade A asshole and that is why people make fun of bodybuilders,. Jerk offs like you can't participate in a discussion without throwing verbal jabs.  Screw you and your steroided acne ridden self.  

[haider]

  Contrary to what you might have heard, Dorian's biceps were HUGE!!!!1 Also, his shoulder-traps complex were the best ever. This all came with a level of graininess which remains unmatched, even 9 years after he retired!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

HAHAHAHA, are u serious dude?!! Ignoring the fact that I completely disagree with your statements, atleast post real pics when defending your hero.. He's got a hell of a gut goin there too

[natural al]

you could say the exact same thing about dorian..



ps Ronnie version 2005 did not look like a bloated pig.

ahhh, but that's one show and one very bad shot from that one show.  Dorian was just as shocking as ronnie was the couple of years he won the O.  Watch the 93 O that was broadcast on ESPN and listen to Jim Quinn who's a big guy when Dorian comes out.  Yes Dorian stumbled in 94 and he probably should have lost but he recovered in 95 and looked good enough to win from there on out.  I know you think Dorian had shitty thighs and that's fine, it's not worth debating but the simple fact of the matter is it was never even an issue when he competed.  I never, evere remember reading an article that stated Dorian had crummy legs.  I never ever remember reading an article where anyone said Doran had no detail in his back.

Maybe it's because I've been following BB alot longer than you have, I'm not an Ironager by anymeans but I think the quality of the pro's these days sucks.  I blame alot of it on Ronnie and it's a shame.  He used to stand for something good back when he started off and was natural and yes I believe he was natural up to a point as a pro.  Even when he started using roids and started doing well I thought he was great but once he let it get totally out of control I could never support him again......

[NarcissisticDeity]

you could say the exact same thing about dorian..



ps Ronnie version 2005 did not look like a bloated pig.

Oh and I thought everyone agreed with you Hulkster?   lol and seriously bro you've been taking a pounding for days now and you've got balls posting a pic of Dorian with a gut lol Dorian had a gut in 2 of his Mr Olympias ( 94/97 ) Ronnie has had a gut for the past seven years   99/00/01/02/03/04/05 , take a peek at Ronnie in the background in 99  

[natural al]

Haney & Yates both had superior muscle quality-accompanied by serious balance issues in which their torsos were disproportionate. If they'd both been in proportion they'd have been special, especially Haney who lacked arm and leg size and had odd shape.

what do you mean by "odd shape"?  Haney had a huge torso wise so yes it would be very hard for him to build arms that would have matched his torso, they were not bad by any means, not as good as say Mike Christians but Mike never had the taper or lat width Lee had.  Lee's legs were not a strong point but he worked hard and brought them up alot over time.  

If anyone can upload haney's 1986 Olympia posing routine on youtube or something...watch that and tell me that is not one of the greatest builds in history.  Say what you want about Chris Dickerson, he was a Mr. O but when Haney hits a back double bi, you hear dickerson go "oh...my goodness"  he's in shock....

[Hulkster]

ahhh, but that's one show and one very bad shot from that one show.  Dorian was just as shocking as ronnie was the couple of years he won the O.  Watch the 93 O that was broadcast on ESPN and listen to Jim Quinn who's a big guy when Dorian comes out.  Yes Dorian stumbled in 94 and he probably should have lost but he recovered in 95 and looked good enough to win from there on out.  I know you think Dorian had shitty thighs and that's fine, it's not worth debating but the simple fact of the matter is it was never even an issue when he competed.  I never, evere remember reading an article that stated Dorian had crummy legs.  I never ever remember reading an article where anyone said Doran had no detail in his back.

Maybe it's because I've been following BB alot longer than you have, I'm not an Ironager by anymeans but I think the quality of the pro's these days sucks.  I blame alot of it on Ronnie and it's a shame.  He used to stand for something good back when he started off and was natural and yes I believe he was natural up to a point as a pro.  Even when he started using roids and started doing well I thought he was great but once he let it get totally out of control I could never support him again......

1. why did you give up on Ronnie but not Dorian?

2. Dorian started the guts and the downfall of the sport, not Ronnie.

3. ronnie was never natural as a pro.

[pumpster]

what do you mean by "odd shape"?  Haney had a huge torso wise so yes it would be very hard for him to build arms that would have matched his torso, they were not bad by any means, not as good as say Mike Christians but Mike never had the taper or lat width Lee had.  Lee's legs were not a strong point but he worked hard and brought them up alot over time.

Nice set of rationalizations-huge torso so it would be hard to build arms like that? Hello? Ron & others don't have those imbalances. Then you go on to say his legs weren't a strong point? DUH!

I can see you're in luv so you won't recognize it anyway, but the difference in size & shape between upper and lower body is like night and day, like two different people. Thighs & calves are near-pathetic, almost beginner's level. Arms are "Yatesian".

[Hulkster]

Oh and I thought everyone agreed with you Hulkster?   lol and seriously bro you've been taking a pounding for days now and you've got balls posting a pic of Dorian with a gut lol Dorian had a gut in 2 of his Mr Olympias ( 94/97 ) Ronnie has had a gut for the past seven years   99/00/01/02/03/04/05 , take a peek at Ronnie in the background in 99  

that pic is highly suspect - go and watch the tape.

Ronnie's midsection was tight in 99.

secondly, if we were to take a poll right now, 99% of this board would likely side with Ronnie.  Why do you think you are turning into the laughing stock of Getbig?

People (and not necessarily me) are making fun of you all over the place.

Everytime someone mentions dorian's arms or Arnold's quads, you get mentioned!

[NarcissisticDeity]

ahhh, but that's one show and one very bad shot from that one show.  Dorian was just as shocking as ronnie was the couple of years he won the O.  Watch the 93 O that was broadcast on ESPN and listen to Jim Quinn who's a big guy when Dorian comes out.  Yes Dorian stumbled in 94 and he probably should have lost but he recovered in 95 and looked good enough to win from there on out.  I know you think Dorian had shitty thighs and that's fine, it's not worth debating but the simple fact of the matter is it was never even an issue when he competed.  I never, evere remember reading an article that stated Dorian had crummy legs.  I never ever remember reading an article where anyone said Doran had no detail in his back.

Maybe it's because I've been following BB alot longer than you have, I'm not an Ironager by anymeans but I think the quality of the pro's these days sucks.  I blame alot of it on Ronnie and it's a shame.  He used to stand for something good back when he started off and was natural and yes I believe he was natural up to a point as a pro.  Even when he started using roids and started doing well I thought he was great but once he let it get totally out of control I could never support him again......

Great post Natural Al , it basically sums up the gist of many of my arguments !! See Hulkster needs to latch onto things , flaws as he puts it , so he can justify why Ronnie would beat Ronnie , someone once said " Dorian's quads look smooth " after looking at a picture when he tore his quad and then Hulkster jumped right in , saying " Dorians quads are weak " " he has no detail in his quads " lol he gets excited when someone agrees with him , I've explained countless times Dorian has excellent cuts in his quads , his upper quad seperation is either overdeveloped or just oddly shaped and he insists he has no quads lol a perfect example of him not being objective , the same with the back detail , he insists Dorian has no upper back detail , and I broke down Dorian's whole back and explained in detail , just how insane Dorian's back is , from top to bottom , from density to detail , he sees what he wants to see , and whats ironic both Ronnie & Samir have said Dorian has the best back ever , but he ignores that

And he clings to pictures as proof positive that is how bad Yates looks in general , 1994 Dorian said he had a stomach virus which bloated his stomach and he was cramping up and his terrible tan doesn't help matters either , ontop of having a torn bicep , but if you watched the night show his stomach looked better as well as his tan and Dorian was just a tad to heavy at 262lbs , but anyway whats ironic is I can find dozens of pics of Ronnie with a gigantic gut , but I digress Hulkster is hypocritical , its okay for Ronnie to have a gut but not Dorian .

[Shockwave]

Ive noticed you are the one mentioning ND in those posts, more often than not Hulkster....

[NarcissisticDeity]

that pic is highly suspect - go and watch the tape.

Ronnie's midsection was tight in 99.

secondly, if we were to take a poll right now, 99% of this board would likely side with Ronnie.  Why do you think you are turning into the laughing stock of Getbig?

People (and not necessarily me) are making fun of you all over the place.

Everytime someone mentions dorian's arms or Arnold's quads, you get mentioned!

Again that picture is NOT one I scanned that pic is legit , he had a gut when he didn't hold his abs in tightly you can't escape that , and your phsycology amazes me , Hulkster let me make this perfectly clear to you

I don't care what a bunch of people I don't know personally on a message board think of me or my opinions

I don't base my opinions on what the majority feel or think , you may find validation in the assurances of others I do not , and its you who usually starts the out of context remarks and others hop on it , but its all good , I don't take this as serious as you and some others , I use this for what it is a place to discuss bodybulding gossip & opinions , so as long as I don't agree with you , you'll still only have 99% of the board who agrees with you  

[The Ugly]

Funny thing. Even if they were competing against each other, then, now, whenever ... with judges' decisions ... we'd still be debating.

Doesn't matter, carry on.

[Hulkster]

Ive noticed you are the one mentioning ND in those posts, more often than not Hulkster....

you have noticed wrong .

I don't really feel like finding the posts that occured in the last few days, but there have been several, and not all by me.

[pumpster]

even if they were competing against each other, then, now, whenever ... with judges' decisions ... we'd still be debating.

Actually the same 3 Yates faggolas would be churning out more propoganda and horrible Yates shots, keeping this alive..

Must be a very slow month at Flex-another mediocre Yates shot:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=70740.0

[NarcissisticDeity]

what do you mean by "odd shape"?  Haney had a huge torso wise so yes it would be very hard for him to build arms that would have matched his torso, they were not bad by any means, not as good as say Mike Christians but Mike never had the taper or lat width Lee had.  Lee's legs were not a strong point but he worked hard and brought them up alot over time.  

If anyone can upload haney's 1986 Olympia posing routine on youtube or something...watch that and tell me that is not one of the greatest builds in history.  Say what you want about Chris Dickerson, he was a Mr. O but when Haney hits a back double bi, you hear dickerson go "oh...my goodness"  he's in shock....

Haney has amazing shape & size , he combined size & aesthetics like Coleman never could , sure Haney's quads were a tad small for his torso , but were they lacking? nope he has better balance in his legs than Coleman and he has full , diamond shaped calves and Coleman does not , he takes a lot of slack for his biceps , his biceps were fine , just not outstanding , see we never seen the best Haney he retired at what? 31 ? he was never really pushed hard in his career , Dorian could have brought out an even better Haney but Lee retired undefeated and cemented his place in history and I would have if him as well .