ND's thoughful yet flawed critique is lost amongst a torrent of pointless and repeated posts by none other than suckmy.
ND you ask if your missing something. Where do we start? Logic, reasoning, objectvity, non bias. You post admittedly a better yates pic than the one i did but its still god awful with cinder block aesethetics, weak arms, abs as thick as his scrunched up chest, wide waist. When will thee comprehend this?
As for levrone not beating yates on stage. Well yes the sport is littered with catastrophes, one of which is how kev never beat pork yates, but competitve history shouldnt render such comparsions pointless, otherwise how come you find its fine to post a pic of dillet as some sort of attempt to further denigrate ronnie. Again as highlighted previously, its your obsession with numbers that drives such inanity.
Its similar to yor accepting flex magazine as some sort of dogma. You extoll peter mcgough for making statements such as yates being the best ever, and you believe this automatically qualifies and validates your argument. "Well if peter says so, i must be right and you wrong".
It doesnt. Like you say its all opinion. Only you feel yours is more worthy than the rest of the members here.
Run back to your magazines.
My critique is far from flawed , it's on point and nonbiased , something that can't be said about Camp-Coleman , I'm not a huge fan of Dorian's phsyique , I wouldn't want to look like him , I was routing for Flex Wheeler in 1993 , I think he looked great at the begining of career and towards the end he didn't , this is
exactly why I can be unbiased , the lot of you are obsessed with Ronnie to the point of denile of Yates' greatness in his prime , its laughable , Camp-Coleman is under this warped clueless idea that Dorian in his prime was a pushover and Ronnie Coleman at his best would be so far ahead of Dorian its not even close , you're all obsessed with this notion that just because
you personally like Ronnie phsyique better tha Dorians that this renders him easily beatable , it's called blind devotion
First of all you look at each competitors history , you'll see Dorian was never a push over , not for anyone , in his first pro contest he placed a close 2nd to Momo Benaziza who was a seasoned pro with 5 pro wins under his belt , pretty impressive debut , his second pro contest ever , he won convincingly , and in his first Mr Olympia he placed second another impressive debut in that contest and he beat the current Mr Olympia in the musculairty round , 1991 Mr Olympia was the second and last time he ever finished lower than first in a contest , he absolutely dominated everyone in his contests , no one on paper or in reality came close , you can go on about how this guy should have placed and this guy looked better , blah, blah , blah , lets talk about what did happen , Dorian to the best of my knowledge recieved straight firsts in every single one of his Olympia wins , you can't counter that , my opinion doesn't matter and neither does yours , the fact is the judges saw him as a very dominating bodybuilder , so even if you deny this or think the contrary , it doesn't change the fact , that Dorain was the absolute greatest bodybuilder from 1992 - 1997
1993 Mr Olympia the judges didn't even need to include Dorian in the muscularity round because of his dominating superiority and Wayne only called him out to please the audience , do you have any comprehension on how insane that is? the 1993 Mr Olympia feild was littered with a lot of great competitors , it was a deep feild with some very high quality guys and Dorian trounced them all , Flex Wheeler conceded the Olympia was for second place until Dorian retires !! and you think for one single moment that Ronnie Coleman a man who Dorian beat easily on
eight seperate encounters would be good enough to beat 1993 Yates with 7 extra pounds and improved hardness , nevermind beat him easily? look I'm a intelligent person , I know if they did meet , it could
in theory go either way , and in fact it may be close , but in the end Dorian would beat Ronnie even if only by a few points , but given Yates past history , his overall win percentage , the fact that he dominated everyone in his prime , from a logical standpoint its safe to assume Yates would win as well as a mathmatical standpoint , so for Camp-Coleman to say its not even close and Ronnie would beat him easily , shows your bias & illogical behavior , and contempt for Dorian to the point of delusion that Ronnie at the same weight as 93 Yates is so far ahead of him that he would dominate Dorian , Dorian set the standard in 1993 for size & hardness , Ronnie couldn't match that in 1999 so dominating Dorian is fantasy , if anything it would be a close contest with one beating the other by mere points !!
Now I made the claim that Ronnie is a collection of freaky parts and they really don't tie together well , he has medicore balance & proportion , and I stand by that claim , and I used a perfect example of what I feel is someone who does have a collection of amazing parts coupled with great balance & proportion , so that pic wasn't to ' denigrate ' Ronnie is an example of exactly what I'm talking about and its 100% accurate !
And I do take Peter McGough's opinion seriously , he's been in the game a long time and he knows what he' talking about , I don't agree with everything he says but I respect his opinion , he's consistant and honest , and Camp-Coleman uses this to their advantage when it suits thier purposes , like when Peter said one of the greatest phsyiques he's ever seen onstage was 2001 Arnold Classic Ronnie , so when its ideal for Coleman groupies to use it its okay but when it contradicts your opinion then its not
don't be hypocritical , you can have a different opinion than him but don't be so quick to dismiss it when I use it as a example , and one things for sure Peter McGough has forgotten more about bodybuilding then you or I have ever learned !!
Now in the end its all just speculation and opinion and basically neither of us are wrong and thats why this is now well over 100 pages , however I feel I'm basing my opinion more objectively and logicaly than most others , I'm not emotionaly wrapped up in Dorian Yates as you guys appear to be with Ronnie Coleman , and you guys can't even understand how he won any Mr Olympias and Hulkster himself said Dorian was the most overrated bodybuilder of all time and I'm to believe for a moment you guys can look , unbiasedly , objectively , and honestly? get serious , so until you can do what I just did , which is break this down using logic , common sense , objectivity , intelligence and honesty , you'll never be equal to me , just like Ronnie wasn't equal to Dorian !!
