Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

Ronnie is so much more detailed head to toe than Dorian that he displays a detailed lower back even when hitting a lat spread, something that dorian was never able to do, even though his lower back was shredded.

yet another advantage in the mandatories..

[freeagain]

hulkster .. im not on about cuts .. im on about muscle density ... dorian had a sick , rock hard quality to his muscles .. he made all other competitors look puffy. thats the winnin card right there.

comparin dorian to others .. was like comparin a developed pec to a woman's tit. the tit might be bigger .. but the pec gets the nod ,lol.

now ill post this pic again ... all the competitiors inline ... ronnie might be bigger now than he was here .. but his conditionin or muscle quality has not improved since then .. infact ... its deteriated since he played the allout size game!

as iv said .. on a guy 5ft 10 + you cant get bigger than doz and hold that insane conditionin . you either look like doz .. or fuck it all up and look like ronnie, lol!

caesar brings you ... muscle versus 'mammorys' !

[suckmymuscle]

The only problem is, Coleman's right there on side tri and blows him away on overhead shots  where it becomes evident that Yates' tris have cuts but not much size. 

  Actually, you are wrong. Dorian's triceps have the three heads more well developed, balanced and with greater balance. Why? Because Ronnie's bis overpower his triceps.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

again, detail makes the difference. From the knees up, its ronnie.

[suckmymuscle]

try doing that with Ronnie at his peak.

If you are going to post pics of a 280+ pound ronnie and say he looks like shit, we can do the exact same thing with a 270 pound yates.

Again, my observation that I mentioned earlier has once again been VALIDATED:

all of the bad shots of Ronnie are of him at 280+ pounds and up.

You want taper?

Here is your taper:


and besides, a arms front most muscular doesn't even SHOW taper

Everything I have said on this thread is proving to be true: the Yates fans can only posts recent shots of Ronnie to make him look bad, esp. standing next to other pro's.


they can't do it with Ronnie at his peak

  Wrong, moron: Dorian looks fantastic when standing next to other pros.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[freeagain]

again, detail makes the difference. From the knees up, its ronnie.

ronnie looks soft compared to dorian .. what detail exactly ??

[Hulkster]

ronnie might be bigger now than he was here .. but his conditionin or muscle quality has not improved since then

wrong. it certainly did:



it peaked around 98/99 and at the 2001 AC.

it dropped off as he balloned up in weight.

but then again, so did dorian's...

[freeagain]

ronnie looks like a grilled sausage to dorian's marbled steak.

all pros did!

[Hulkster]

ronnie looks soft compared to dorian .. what detail exactly ??

umm.. can you not see the striations in Ronnie's lower back where dorian has none?

granted, it is not a great shot of Ronnie's hams, but we all know that ronnie's hams destroy Dorian's.

[nicorulez]

ND, you are quite possibly having a breakdown.     It is unbelievable that a man can go on and on about the same crap day after day.  I agree with Hedgehog to a point, but Ronnie's rear lat spread destroys Yates.  He has the classic cobra that Dorian simply does not possess.  Moreover, he has ripped glutes and hams that absolutely outclass Yates.  So yeah, at their alltime best it would be a fun show.  For you to say it would be no contest is laughable.  Point is, you are laughable.  Your ass is glued in front of this computer screen 24/7.  Nobody believes your proclamations that you are not a true Dorian fan.  You are the biggest fanboi on this board; your arguments are absurd and your reasoning suspect.  Regardless, continue with your proclamations as this thread is shooting for 200 pages soon.  I'll catch you in about twenty pages....

[suckmymuscle]

nice observation .... dorian would take and edge many of the mandatorys.

however ... the staggerin conditionin of doz ... especiallly stark and evident when standin next to ronnie .. would command too much attention.

as evident in  2001.. ronnie is vunerable to a conditioned athlete.. and jay .. while lookin fabulous in that olympia which he won ... cant hold a candle to 'the doz'.

dorian's muscle quality was UNEARTHLY. he made everyone else look water logged and soft.

in my opinion .. ronnie would beat doz in the 'minor' comps .. such as the arnold etc ...SOMETIMES.

but come olympia time doz would put the 'beat down ' on ronnie.

i wish a competitor of dorian's quality would come along again and add some excitement to the olympia once more. ronnie is just outsizin everyone while lookin like a condom full of diahorea! and his abs are shockingly bad.

  Exactly! everthing about Dorian amazes me, from his almos perfect musco-skeletal balance, to his mass and presentation. he is easily on eof the top four bodybuilders ever - together with Oliva, Arnold and Wheeler(Ronnie comes in fifth). Bu of the things which always amazed me about Dorian, it was his preter-human, granite-like densiy and dryness.

  "Even now, nine years after he retired, Dorian's conditioning and dryness, come contest time, reains he gold-standard which all pros aspire to." Julian Schmidt

  "No bodybuilder has ever been, as hard and dry, as the man who took six Sandows." Peter McGough

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[freeagain]

umm.. can you not see the striations in Ronnie's lower back where dorian has none?

granted, it is not a great shot of Ronnie's hams, but we all know that ronnie's hams destroy Dorian's.

are you callin skin folds/creases detail?? lol.

there we can see the crux of the matter... ronnie has blown up bigger than dorian .. especially in the quads/hams n glutes.

but are the judges gonna reward soft size over conditioned , dense, grainy developed muscle ??

even the pros agonise over that question. dorian was still 'in progress' .. addin muscle each year before his body packed up on him. it took coleman numerous olympias to reach his 'zenith' .. and he was lost in the lineup durin the hotbed of competitions of the early to mid 90s. dorian was slayin everyone from the startin block .. and gave haney the fright of his life in his rookie olympia.

i agree .. that ronnie is mind bogglingly massive especially in 2004.. but he looks like a pregnant bull .. a water logged one at that cuz of the all out size hes gone for. dorian  would make him look very ordinary.. nay ... overinflated.

ronnie aint soft either.. its just dorian makes you look that way. it makes everyone look 10 weeks out ,lol.

[Hulkster]

oh God, now suckmyasshole is resorting to quotes.

I guess she is getting desparate too.

[Hulkster]

are you callin skin folds/creases detail?? lol.

no, they are STRIATIONS.

What will these guys think up next?

[Hulkster]

look at the skin folds in ronnie's chest!

the dorian fans are reaching new levels of desperation.

[freeagain]

someone email a few competiton judges and let them give the nod to who would win ,lol.

this is a thread that will never die cuz we have two obsessive compulsives in either camp thrashin out their ego driven neurosis!  

i give it dorian cuz he would take his share of mandatorys .. and his overall conditionin and grainy devlopement would be too much for coleman. it would be 2001 all over again ..and again and again ...

[freeagain]

no, they are STRIATIONS.

What will these guys think up next?

no hulkster if you look without your rose tinted spectacles.. you will see ronnie's left arm is slightly more forward .. hence less 'striations' on his left side. his right arm is more back hence more skin folds!

the skin is more stretched on his left side.

dorian appears more 'smoothe' cuz look at the advances postionin of his arms in that pose compared to ronnie..

[suckmymuscle]

oh God, now suckmyasshole is resorting to quotes.

I guess she is getting desparate too.

  Nah, Huckster, the quoes come as a bonus: I've been raping you and your John with pics for ages...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hedgehog]

dryness would not help if you lack the goods to display properly..

The most muscular is Ronnies. Yes.

The lat spread? No. Dorian owns that one. And mainly due to great lats? Well. You could say that. I also believe he was performing the pose better than Ronnie.



YIP
Zack

[Hulkster]

I agree that Ronnie was a pregnant bull in 2004.

But dorian was a pregnant construction worker in 1994 and 1997.

Peak dorian looked much better.

Peak Ronnie looked much better than that.

[Hulkster]

 Wrong, moron: Dorian looks fantastic when standing next to other pros.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

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if shawn was anywhere near completing the ab and thigh, Dorian would look like shit.

[Hedgehog]

I agree that Ronnie was a pregnant bull in 2004.

But dorian was a pregnant construction worker in 1994 and 1997.

Peak dorian looked much better.

Peak Ronnie looked much better than that.

Their peak physiques are what, IMO, should be compared.

And ASC 2001 wasn't Ronnie all-time best LOL.

He was at his peak in 1998 IMO.

Thing is, even if you consider Dorian to be superior to Ronnie, there are some poses which he doesn't match Ronnie in. Like the most muscular or the front double bi.

The same goes the other way. Ronnie can't match the front lat spread, or the rear lat spread. If it's due to poor posing ability... Doesn't matter.

YIP
Zack

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, you are quite possibly having a breakdown.     It is unbelievable that a man can go on and on about the same crap day after day.  I agree with Hedgehog to a point, but Ronnie's rear lat spread destroys Yates.  He has the classic cobra that Dorian simply does not possess.  Moreover, he has ripped glutes and hams that absolutely outclass Yates.  So yeah, at their alltime best it would be a fun show.  For you to say it would be no contest is laughable.  Point is, you are laughable.  Your ass is glued in front of this computer screen 24/7.  Nobody believes your proclamations that you are not a true Dorian fan.  You are the biggest fanboi on this board; your arguments are absurd and your reasoning suspect.  Regardless, continue with your proclamations as this thread is shooting for 200 pages soon.  I'll catch you in about twenty pages....

You're just like a little girl getting way to emotional about the little black letters I type , you're not even in this ' debate ' you pop in add you're 2 cents and run away , and how would you know if I'm here 24/7 unless you are too?    the best part is I have been on here a lot more lately because I broke my wrist & forearm , so I'm getting paid to put children like you in their place  so keep looking out for my posts until then I'll be taking you kids to school !!

[NarcissisticDeity]

dorian's front lat spread is only good due to the lats. His chest, quads and arms suck.

Ronnie's is much more complete.

Ronnie isn't even anywhere near this shot , not close by a country mile !!

[pumpster]

Dorian's triceps have the three heads more well developed, balanced and with greater balance. Why? Because Ronnie's bis overpower his triceps.

You proven your mis-understanding of physiology-that's why I keep asking and never get the non-existent overhead Yates shot with any triceps size. It's because he doesn't have much, that's why.

The side tri shot is mainly lateral & medial heads, the two smaller parts of the muscle. Yates has got good cuts there and presses his arm against his side, fooling people into thinking there's more size there than there is. The largest part of the triceps is only evident in overhead shots, where he has nothing.

Thank god you were never a judge given your misunderstandings. They pick up the nuance you don't.

As far as Ron's bis overpowering-they're more more prominent but not overpowering, because his tris are huge, much bigger in size than Yates.