Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[tony b]

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[NarcissisticDeity]

Very good post. But ND will probably not listen and list off some 12 year old quotes, post some gut shots from 2004 and go on about the scorecards, without actually looking at the two physiques in question...

To be honest, the videos posted in this thread mean more (in my opinion) than all these pics.

I have seen the 93 O. and the 99 O. and in my opinion, even in 99, ronnie had so many more cuts and striations (chest, triceps, biceps, delts, quads, hams, glutes etc) at the same bodyweight as yates did in 93 (both 257 pounds) that, when you combine the obvious taper advantages, that its not really close between a 99 Ronnie and a 93 Yates. Size wise they were the same. But thats were the similarities ended.

ND: you can go on about Yates' dryness all you want, but Ronnie was still more cut in 99 overall (except for the lower back and abs of course)- but then again, these are MINOR bodyparts in comparsion to all the MAJOR ones that ronnie has a huge advantage in..

Again your underestimation of just how great Dorian at his prime is weakness , you think he's some pushover lol its laughable , you have no clue obviously just how great Dorian was , I don't care what version you choose , you put Ronnie side by side with Dorian at his best and one thing is for sure Ronnie's not going to walk all over him like Cutler and the rest of the ho-hum competition he's faced , Dorian could match or surpass Ronnie at his best ( not 03 by a long shot ) on size , density , conditioning , seperation and detail , he's a much better poser and has better balance , the fact you think that Ronnie facing Dorian at his prime would be a walk in the park , shows you how clueless you really are , believe me if the two met at their respective bests , Dorian wouldn't be an underdog !!

[adadrian]

this is immature and stupid anyone can look good or bad in the pics u guys are comparing bad pics. not only that today the suppliments and things are bigger and better then they were say 10 years ago its always getting better and it will continue to do so

[sculpture]

Dorian side tri again.

Would be good except for the protruding, thich as his chest abdominals that completely detract from the shot.

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[sculpture]

More funky and chunky oblique and ab fun.

You see ND, what effect a naturally wide waist has on accentuating any presence of a gut. His obliques stick out by a mile

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[nicorulez]

What is funny about the Yates supporters like Lyrictenor and the like is their version of the "best" Dorian is a pre-contest Dorian in B&W photos with perfect lighting.  Unfortunately for you all, at the 1993 Mr. Olympia he looked like a shadow of that version.  Of course, he won handily, but by the show he was 10-12 pounds lighter and did not have the pop.  I know, blame the lighting at the Mr. Olympia.  Well so what, Ronnie competes in those lights and he looks infinitely better.  Why don't you guys show some versions of Dorian in his alltime best shape (I would assume 1993 but some feel 1995 was it) on stage and then talk.  I get tired at looking at manipulated B&W photos pre-contest that show his size but reveal his lack of striations.  However, those are the pics that made him "grainy appearing."  I never really saw that condition repeated on stage except for the one overhead twisting bicep shot.  Oh well, I am waiting for ND to post some contest photos (because that is all that matters) that would so overwhelm Ronnie in 2003 (hell, if you feel like 1998/1999 then go for it).  Once again, waiting with bated breath. ND? Lyric? Sucky? 

[suckmymuscle]

His front spread's solid, does a great job masking the overt arm deficiencies in tris AND bis. Coleman's at least as good, probably better..

  Guess what, poopster? Wrong. While Ronnie's taper is better a 250 lbs, Dorian's V-shape is superior on the front lat spread, because his shoulder girldle is so much wider. No contest.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

What a buncha losers, using that same ugly-ass Yates side-tri..Show some intelligence. Think!

To reiterate:

Coleman blows Yates out on tri SIZE-not close.

Coleman is close on side tri-not quite as defined.

Combine the two, equally weighted..

Very simple, my simpletons...hahahhah

  Too bad his triceps muscle bellies are short...and overpowered by his biceps, in the back double biceps.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[nicorulez]

What is funny about those front lat spreads of Yates is that he is devoid of anything resembling striations.  His legs don't have them; his arms certainly do not possess any detail.  His chest his average.  Of course, his lats are off the charts, but that overwhelming advantage just continues to highlight all of his weaknesses.  Sucky, you try hard.  We all know you do.  However, to even compare Dorians shape and symmetry to Ronnie is laughable.  Even Dorian knows he was not exactly the next coming of Bob Paris or Lee Labrada.  Oh well, continue on and post another twenty shots of your hero.

[pumpster]

It's true-Yates' front lat spread isn't overwhelming. Looks fine in kinda ho-hum fashion, but that pose *is* important for hiding some of his biggest flaws.

Too bad his triceps muscle bellies are short...and overpowered by his biceps, in the back double biceps.

These are the nonsensical blatherings of someone who thinks Yates' arms are just fine. Coleman's tris are huge with good shape, good sweep & cuts-in short everything's there that Yates lacks. Arms don't get that big based on biceps alone.

[NarcissisticDeity]

What is funny about those front lat spreads of Yates is that he is devoid of anything resembling striations.  His legs don't have them; his arms certainly do not possess any detail.  His chest his average.  Of course, his lats are off the charts, but that overwhelming advantage just continues to highlight all of his weaknesses.  Sucky, you try hard.  We all know you do.  However, to even compare Dorians shape and symmetry to Ronnie is laughable.  Even Dorian knows he was not exactly the next coming of Bob Paris or Lee Labrada.  Oh well, continue on and post another twenty shots of your hero.

And Coleman isn't the next comming of Chris Cormier or Paul Dillet  and you want contest photos ? show me one single ab-thigh of Ronnie's that can match this for size , shape , condition , his whole midsection is shredded !!

[pumpster]

Right here, with far better X-frame thanks to wider lats and thighs along with better taper. Yates has virtually no X-frame, in comparison.

Six-pack is good, not as sharp as Yates but solid. Add in the huge advantage in X-Frame and he's right there on one of Yates supposed signature shots.

The real beauty of this shot for Yates is that it hides those arms..

[NarcissisticDeity]

255lbs hard as steel !!

[nicorulez]

ND, good photo ND.  I agree, Dorian's best pose if you ask me.  However, show us a front double bicep pre or post-tear on stage that even comes close to Coleman.  He is beat from the front, the side and usually the back.  It is really a matter of evolution. Peace.

[pumpster]

Good shot of Yates, but even here..

[nicorulez]

ND, you sure are enamored by B&W photos aren't you.    Unfortunately, when it is in color, he looks very average.  Surprise, this is pre-tear Dorian. Not overwhelming by any means.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, good photo ND.  I agree, Dorian's best pose if you ask me.  However, show us a front double bicep pre or post-tear on stage that even comes close to Coleman.  He is beat from the front, the side and usually the back.  It is really a matter of evolution. Peace.

lol the side and the back , and he's not beating anyone from the front , not ab-thigh not latspread !! Dorian looks fantastic from the front , you think overdeveloped biceps & quads make for the best front double bicep you're wrong !! look at the balance between each group , look at the balance of upper & lower body , Coleman can't touch that , I don't care how big his biceps are .

[nicorulez]

Once again, no striations can be seen on the Yates.  Why is that?  Genetics...maybe like Ronnies calves.   P.S.  Ronnie kills him in the front double bi shot ND...sorry.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, good photo ND.  I agree, Dorian's best pose if you ask me.  However, show us a front double bicep pre or post-tear on stage that even comes close to Coleman.  He is beat from the front, the side and usually the back.  It is really a matter of evolution. Peace.

Evolution? you mean overdevlopment of parts until the whole suffers? lol you're mistaking a freaky shot for a great shot and I scan pics , if they're B&W in the magazines thats not my fault lol

[sculpture]

lol the side and the back , and he's not beating anyone from the front , not ab-thigh not latspread !! Dorian looks fantastic from the front , you think overdeveloped biceps & quads make for the best front double bicep you're wrong !! look at the balance between each group , look at the balance of upper & lower body , Coleman can't touch that , I don't care how big his biceps are .

Dorian looks atrocious from the front. When will you comprehend this.

Appaling infact.

I have a question actually - just why is there muscles actually missing in dorians quads?

[nicorulez]

BTW ND, Haney's front double bicep shot kills Yates, even in 1993.  Very overrated.  Hint, Shawn is killing him there.  You can clearly see his abs and taper.  The Yates is very average from the front.  If that is pre-tear, his arms are sadder than I thought.

[pumpster]

look at the balance of upper & lower body , Coleman can't touch that , I don't care how big his biceps are .

Mindlessly going on about balance while admiting you don't care about biceps size..amazing jumps in logic..

Balance is not everything, when most of the physique isn't special.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Once again, no striations can be seen on the Yates.  Why is that?  Genetics...maybe like Ronnies calves.

No striations in the front double bicep shot? lol wtf? take a look Dorian's striated midsection in the above pic , he has striations , in his chest , lower lats , lower back , glutes , you sound like Hulkster lol you see them now?    

[sculpture]

BTW ND, Haney's front double bicep shot kills Yates, even in 1993.  Very overrated.  Hint, Shawn is killing him there.  You can clearly see his abs and taper.  The Yates is very average from the front.  If that is pre-tear, his arms are sadder than I thought.

Oh don't you know? Dorians arms are better than colemans.

Never let ND live this one down as long as he inhabits this board.

[pumpster]

take a look Dorian's striated midsection in the above pic , he has striations , in his chest , lower lats , lower back , glutes

Only in specific areas. What about the rest?