Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Sadly, ND's cognitive disfunctions & probable ADD prevent acknowledgement of the truth, so let's do this again.

No pics to get in the way..only videos..DEAL WITH IT..

Yates, 1992, Coleman 2000.

The contrast is STRIKING. Yates in over his head; size differential's absurd, as are Coleman's advantages in shape & aesthetics. As always Yates' strength is density; that's about it.

Yates' arms: putrid. Bis & tris look even smaller on video. Thighs nothing special either. Good delts, but shoulders aren't wide enough for the lats.
Yates looking anything but a superstar..The true legends Oliva & Schwarzenegger stand the test of time in videos; Yates does not. 

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Don't waste any more time trying to shift this to calves & forearms..

[Hulkster]

Yates' arms: putrid. Bis & tris look even smaller on video. Thighs nothing special either.

ND you are trapped there. Ronnie's arms look even better on video and onstage then they do in pics.  Dorian's are the opposite. Some of those arm shots from those videos would cost dorian some serious points against Ronnie.. Same holds for the quads.

[Hulkster]

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 Both in great shape, and its no contest. 

ND has gone on about how Ronnie's calves suck compared to dorian's, but if you compare the VIDEO's - you quickly realize that Dorian's entire arm, quads, delts and chest suck compared to Ronnie's. nevermind delts, taper and everything else.  The judges would pick up on this pretty quickly and easily award the win to Ronnie.

[pumpster]

I noticed on the videos that while Yates' delt musculature's good, his shoulder structure's too narrow for the torso. Further diminishes the taper.

Too flawed for greatness, superb for tier-B.. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

psst: ND, that is a damn impressive shot. try to pick a bad one next time!

It is impressive no doubts about it , but thats not bodybuilding my friend 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND you are trapped there. Ronnie's arms look even better on video and onstage then they do in pics.  Dorian's are the opposite. Some of those arm shots from those videos would cost dorian some serious points against Ronnie.. Same holds for the quads.

His arms were fine 93 to say their weak isn't accurate you know this even if you don't admit it .

[pumpster]

Stop avoiding the issue; take a look at the videos..

[Hulkster]

I noticed on video that Ronnie side triceps pose, at least in 1999, was at least as good if not actually better than yates' was.

I guess if you take a really close up shot of a side tri (like all the Yates shots are) you end up looking better than you actually are because it makes your arms and esp. the  triceps appear huge.

Yates arms top to bottom were pathetic in those videos.

Can you imagine how much worse they would have looked standing next to the man with arguably history's greatest overall arms??

It would be an easy win for Ronnie, no doubt..

Not taking anything away from dorian, but progress is progress (at least at the time, until Ronnie went downhill..)

[pumpster]

Yates arms top to bottom were pathetic in those videos.

On the videos ND refused to address, Yates uses the 'ol arm-pressed-against-side because he knows the size isn't there..Coleman with the same cuts but tris look almost twice the size.

[Hulkster]

Stop avoiding the issue; take a look at the videos.

LOL

He's right ND - Yates arms are not nearly as good as the close up shots seem to show.

When you see them in motion and in relation to the rest of his frame, they suck.  That front double bi dorian hit in the first vid was literally embarrassing.

The front double bi that Ronnie hit in the 99 video was record breaking..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Then you should also listen to Paul Dillet and Flex Wheeler, who have both claimed that Ronnie is the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time...

Maybe they did , I haven't read yet   and even if they did , I don't agree with them obviously .

[pumpster]

Video conclusion: Yates is the Danny Ainge of BB.

[Hedgehog]

The video is of Yates at the 92 Olympia.

The year before he made the extreme leap in size and shape.

So it's not really valid to use IMO.

Compare the all time best Coleman versus the all time best Yates.

YIP
Zack

[pumpster]

According to ND's insane logic re: Coleman, BBs don't change from year to year. 

Yates must've gone crazy with the drug cocktails in '93!

[pumpster]

Yates benefitted from questionable judging on a number of occassions:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=76114.0

[Hulkster]

whats really funny is that if you look at both Yates and Ronnie hitting this pose in the videos, which is one of dorian's favorites, Ronnie's version is better! That closeup shot of Ronnie "pumping" his biceps in 99 video is one of the freakiest biceps shots I have ever seen, and re-enforces my opinion that his biceps were better than anyone's - Lee's, Arnold's, it doesn't matter...

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

He's right ND - Yates arms are not nearly as good as the close up shots seem to show.

When you see them in motion and in relation to the rest of his frame, they suck.  That front double bi dorian hit in the first vid was literally embarrassing.

The front double bi that Ronnie hit in the 99 video was record breaking..

Are you shitting me? lol you're all patting yourself on the back comparing Dorian at 238lbs to Coleman at 257lbs? jesus you guys are sad , seriously and his biceps looked pretty damn good at that weight and his back double bicep shot even at that low bodyweight is outstanding , he was dry as hell , Ronnie is very impressive in 1999 but he wasn't as dry as Dorian , all the press said he 93 he was almost 20 pounds heavier and just as dry as 92

[Hulkster]

It is impressive no doubts about it , but thats not bodybuilding my friend 

so, this is?

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

so, this is?

 

No , This is 

[pumpster]

you're all patting yourself on the back comparing Dorian at 238lbs to Coleman at 257lbs?

Rampant nerdism. The numbers don't matter to anyone who knows BB.

It's interesting how Coleman can stack up or exceed what Yates has on Yates' supposed best shots.

[Hulkster]

The video is of Yates at the 92 Olympia.

The year before he made the extreme leap in size and shape.

So it's not really valid to use IMO.

Compare the all time best Coleman versus the all time best Yates.

YIP
Zack

Are any 1993 videos online?

ps - most of the flaws that we are speaking of were totally unchanged in 1993:

-taper
-quad cuts
-biceps
-etc.

Dorian would have been a little bigger in 1993.

But the debate has never been about size anyway for me. Hell, Dorian and Ronnie are almost exactly the same size at their bests  (both about the same height, same weight).

Its the quality differences (cuts, vascularity, shape and taper) that given Ronnie the edge.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I just watched the 99 vid again and did you notice the gut from the time he started until the time he finished and Fenix had the balls to claim it was totaly flat in 03 lol

[pumpster]

ND in desperation, posting a pic of Coleman from how long ago?

Since time's irrelevant, here's one of Yates winning best mullet..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Are any 1993 videos online?

ps - most of the flaws that we are speaking of were totally unchanged in 1993:

-taper
-quad cuts
-biceps
-etc.

Dorian would have been a little bigger in 1993.

But the debate has never been about size anyway for me. Hell, Dorian and Ronnie are almost exactly the same size at their bests  (both about the same height, same weight).

Its the quality differences (cuts, vascularity, shape and taper) that given Ronnie the edge.

Quality as in density , dryness , balance & proportion and completeness give Dorian the edge .

[Hulkster]

It's interesting how Coleman can stack up or exceed what Yates has on Yates' supposed best shots.

for those who were paying attention, did you see how awesome Ronnie's front lat spread looked in the 99 video - his quad cuts were crazy.  Stuff like this is where Dorian would lose major points - Dorians quads are practically cut-free in the front lat spreads.