Your helpless you truely are , especially if you think either picture you've posted come anywhere near Dorian in terms of completeness from top to bottom , his back looks flat? WTF he had one of the thickest widest backs in the history of the sport and you've come to the conclusion its looks flat?
Once again, you can't take one statement like "widest thickest back" and post a preseason shot bereft of any semblance of detail - and then claim his back is detailed and complete and post a contest picture that lacks that very width and thickness previously demonstrated. You can't have it both ways on this one.
His back looks very flat in that picture ND. In fact, it looks 2 dimensional, which isn't good at all.
His trapezius barely extends beyond the infraspinatus. It is very detailed, but very poor width and almost no thickness. Ronnie has comparable detail, far more width and thickness, and a better V-taper in pre-season mode and especially in contest shape.
(Refer to the attachment) It isn't even close dude. Give it up. Ronnie has more detail pre-season.
You've have to be shitting me you think that Coleman from 2004 comes anywhere near Dorian in that shot , its not even close , not by a country fucking mile , I honestly thought you posted the wrong picture lol what a fucking joke lol Ronnie was 296lbs in 2004 and he looked worse than 2003 just when you though he couldn't sink any lower , he did 
Ronnie destroys Dorian in this shot, as well as the 2004 shot.
Ronnie's trapezius is considerably larger. Not only is the separation more evident due to better conditioning, but his muscles are so large and round that they accentuate the crevices and craters. Look at those pictures and tell me it doesn't look as though Dorian's back is 2D.
Dorian from top to bottom wastes 04 Ronnie on everything except redudant size , Ronnie isn't anywhere near as dry as Dorian he's clearly holding water and his back shot has about as much detail and seperation as 96 Nasser El Sonbaty , Dorian's thickness , detail through out his entire body just outclasses Ronnie by a country mile , Dorian has the perfect blend of density , hardness and detail , your statement that 2004 Ronnie outclasses Dorian in that back double biceps shot is just as retarded as your statement Ronnie's abdomin is flat in 2003
There is no f*cking way Dorian's back is thicker in that shot. No f*cking way.
Ronnie's separation is far better actually. You may have a point with Dorian coming in dry, but conditioning is 1/3 of the criteria. It would not be enough to win the pose, let alone the contest.
Please acquaint yourself with standard IFBB protocol. If sheer muscle size was as unimportant as you make it out to be, professional bodybuilding would be dominated by NPC light-heavyweights.
Dorian's dryness would only impact his back too. His quadriceps would still suck, lacking separation, cuts, striations, vascularity, hell any detail whatsoever. Dorian's hamstrings and glutes still suck ass too. Whereas Ronnie's condition would highlight his ever present striations, vascularity, and deeply embedded cuts, so it isn't even a guarantee that Dorian would win the muscle maturity / conditioning facet of the analysis.
Ronnie's flat abdomen in 2003
Ronnie compared much better from 1999 but he's still not as dry as Dorian and they weigh exactly the same , but your size advantage is zero so how does he have superior size 
, you keep insisting that I'm affraid to compare a 2003/04 Coleman to Yates , I'm not in the least Dorian beat pleanty of big me with medicore conditioning before , in fact he's beat bigger men with better conditioning like a 285 Nasser , a 285 Ian Harrison a 280lb Fux , Dorian at his best had size & hardness , Ronnie gets very soft 260+ he was never able to carry that ammount weight with Dorian's hardness , you stand 03/04 Ronnie next to a 93/95 Dorian and it would be very clear who was in shape and who is holding water , and you think with extra weight with less detail he'll beat Dorian not quite
Muscle size is 1/3 of the IFBB's criteria, so that readily offsets any advantage Yates may have with conditioning. For the 100th f*cking time, I'm not talking about 1999 Coleman. From the very outset of my entrance in this thread I have used 2003/2004 Coleman as my frame of reference.
Nasser was a superior bodybuilding from the front. Even Dorian himself acknowledged this.
Nasser didn't have a good back ... but guess what ... Coleman is considered to have the best back in the history of bodybuilding, so you have no right to compare Coleman to Nasser simply because their scale weights coincide.
LOL at Harrison and Fux ... that's funny.
As I said previously, Ronnie doesn't need perfect conditioning to beat Dorian.
His symmetry and muscularity are more than sufficient. Nice try though.
So you have nothing new to offer , at least Hulkster has the sense to not want to compare Ronnie 03/04 to a peak Dorian , you're just lost on this one , Ronnie is severly lacking in detail & seperation and conditioning these years so your size advantage becomes a moot point at least to anyone with sense
Once again, you refuse to compare Dorian's symmetry and muscularity to Coleman altogether.
It is difficult to determine who would win the muscle maturity / density / conditioning facet (1/3).
You fail to remember that Ronnie has the vascularity, the striations, and the superior separation.
Dorian has the grainy dryness, whereas Ronnie has more water. It really could go either way.
