Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

ND is so desperate he is claiming that Fux is on on the same Level as a peak Coleman

sorry ND, try again.


This is awesome. He is so badly owned he is speaking nonsense.

[Hulkster]

you didn't ask me if he ever beat anyone with that criteria

I shouldn't have to. The fact that he NEVER did makes it VERY LIKELY that he would lose again if faced with a peak Ronnie.

oh, and Dillett never had a back. It wasn't just detail that he lacked.

Neither did Chris (see 99 Olympia video for a side by side comparison of Chris and Ronnie's back)

Oh, and Francois, while very, very impressive, was blocky compared to Ronnie. Yet he still beat Flex. Again, just as with Dorian, the judges cream their collective pants for size at all costs.

I have already commented on Fux, and the whole board is laughing at you for even mentioning him in this thread

[Hulkster]

Yawn

great response. ND its obvious to everyone that you can't even bother to respond anymore because you know you have lost badly.

the videos sealed the deal..the ones that the Yates-trio refuse to comment on.

[dearth]

great response. ND its obvious to everyone that you can't even bother to respond anymore because you know you have lost badly.

the videos sealed the deal..the ones that the Yates-trio refuse to comment on.

more coleman fans than yates fans means you've won?

[Hulkster]

more coleman fans than yates fans means you've won?

people who pick Ronnie do not pick him because they are "fans".

They pick his physique becase of the incrediby drastic differences in shape, taper, detail and vascularity seen here:



among other things..

and see on VIDEO here:

99 Grand Prix Ronnie:

99 Olympia Ronnie:

http://shiftedshapes.net/Ronnie_Coleman_1999_Mr%5b1%5d.Olympia.wmv

Compre to the "best of Yates":

&search=dorian%20yates

This isn't about popularity. Its about who had a better physique based on the critera of detail, vascularity, shape and taper (size is not really a factor because they are almost even there).

And given such ground rules, its obvious why most of Getbig, in fact, most of the bodybuilding community as a whole, pick Ronnie.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I shouldn't have to. The fact that he NEVER did makes it VERY LIKELY that he would lose again if faced with a peak Ronnie.

oh, and Dillett never had a back. It wasn't just detail that he lacked.

Neither did Chris (see 99 Olympia video for a side by side comparison of Chris and Ronnie's back)

Oh, and Francois, while very, very impressive, was blocky compared to Ronnie. Yet he still beat Flex. Again, just as with Dorian, the judges cream their collective pants for size at all costs.

I have already commented on Fux, and the whole board is laughing at you for even mentioning him in this thread

You're a punk simply because you got your ass handed to you and now as usuall the excuses start rolling out   this is your quote

He NEVER face someone who had a great taper with width and size (and a back).

He did in fact face Lee Haney who had a great taper , he had width and size ( and a back ) and in fact he beat Haney in the muscularity round , so you're dead wrong and you don't have the balls to admit it , Paul Dillet had a taper much superior to Ronnie nevermind Dorian , he was always the widest man onstage , his lats were thick & his traps but he was missing great seperation & detail , Cormier had a excellent back and a better taper than Dorian , Fux had a fantastic taper even with his Colemanesque gut , his back was thick & wide and detailed , Francios was blocky? another Hulkster gem   in fact he wasn't his taper was better than Yates , Mike had a smaller waist & narrower hips than Dorian and his back thickness & width were insane !!

typical Hulkster you want proof , you get it and then you deny it   same old story with you hence the yawn , you're under this delusion that the guy with the best taper wins the guy with the widest back and smallest waist can't be beat lol if you learned anything from Dorian's tenure he isn't that and he doesn't need that to win , Dorian beat aesthetic guys , massive guys , Dorian always played his game and it worked out for him just fine which was size & dryness which Ronnie didn't have in 98 or 99 at least not on par with Dorian  

[ANAL DISCHARGE]

Enough of this crap.  Dorian is better, Ronnie has inflated muscles with no quality and looks like a retard with false legs.  End of story.

[Hulkster]

oh, where oh where do I begin..

okay, Ill start here:

He did in fact face Lee Haney who had a great taper , he had width and size ( and a back ) and in fact he beat Haney in the muscularity round , so you're dead wrong and you don't have the balls to admit it

Yes, I admit he faced someone like that. And he LOST the contest! What don't you understand about this fact?  We all know that Haney had a way better taper and he won the symmetry round. How would it be any different than against a peak Ronnie? 

Yates lost to Haney, and he would lose to Ronnie for many of the same reasons.

Cormier had a excellent back and a better taper than Dorian ,

you are wrong here. Chris had a good back when he was NOT standing beside someone like Ronnie or Dorian. See the 99 Olympia prejudging for just how pitiful Chris back was  standing next to Ronnie in the comparisons.

Francios was blocky? another Hulkster gem 

I would consider this pretty damn blocky.


ND owned yet again. That post was overflowing with bullshit.

[NarcissisticDeity]

people who pick Ronnie do not pick him because they are "fans".

They pick his physique becase of the incrediby drastic differences in shape, taper, detail and vascularity seen here:


among other things..

and see on VIDEO here:

99 Grand Prix Ronnie:



99 Olympia Ronnie:



Compre to the "best of Yates":




This isn't about popularity. Its about who had a better physique based on the critera of detail, vascularity, shape and taper (size is not really a factor because they are almost even there).

And given such ground rules, its obvious why most of Getbig, in fact, most of the bodybuilding community as a whole, pick Ronnie.

No you keep going on how the whole board is laughing at me and blah . blah , blah   its you and a bunch of Uber-Coleman fans you find comfort in numbers , you think this validates your opionion it doesn't , Ronnie has the edge because he's the current Mr Olympia and Dorian hasn't been for almost 10 years thats a long time with the advent of the internet fans have more and more acess to information especially pictures & video , none of this was aviable beack in 97 the internet was not nearly as big as it is now , anyway a lot of people pick Ronnie based on their personal preferences , what they find to be a great physique its obvious when you , yourself say Dorian is overrated and can't figure out how Dorian could ever beat , Ray , Dillet , Levrone , Flex , thats your personal bias preventing you from seeing past your own prefferences and it does that in reguards to peak Ronnie V Dorian that fact that you can't even admit it may be close or Dorian may even win is proof-positive that you can't be honest or unbiased in the comparision

 

This isn't about popularity. Its about who had a better physique based on the critera of detail, vascularity, shape and taper (size is not really a factor because they are almost even there).

you left out a few things there sport , like balance & proportion , size & density , dryness & hardness , posing , who looks the best in the mandatory poses , Dorian doesn't have to play Ronnies game , Dorian plays Dorian's game and he never lost doing it  

[pumpster]

more coleman fans than yates fans means you've won?

people who pick Ronnie do not pick him because they are "fans".

Very true. I'm not a big fan of Coleman, but black & white thinkers like ANUS & ND would never be able to grasp that. Yates though, is one of the worst i've seen, and Coleman's obviously great.

[NarcissisticDeity]

oh, where oh where do I begin..

okay, Ill start here:



Yes, I admit he faced someone like that. And he LOST the contest! What don't you understand about this fact?  We all know that Haney had a way better taper and he won the symmetry round. How would it be any different than against a peak Ronnie? 

Yates lost to Haney, and he would lose to Ronnie for many of the same reasons.
you are wrong here. Chris had a good back when he was NOT standing beside someone like Ronnie or Dorian. See the 99 Olympia prejudging for just how pitiful Chris back was  standing next to Ronnie in the comparisons.



I would consider this pretty damn blocky.


ND owned yet again. That post was overflowing with bullshit.

Moron you claimed he never faced anyone with width , taper and a back , I countered with yes and you were exposed for a jackass , no he didn't beat Haney but thats moot because one he wasn't at his prime , two he beat Haney in the musculairty round DESPITE being lighter and how would this be any different compared to peak Ronnie? wel for one it would be peak Dorian who was a full 17 pounds heavier   so lets see 240lbs in his first Mr Olympia vs 257lbs at peak and dryer than Coleman at 249lbs !! gee I think he would fair a hell of a lot better than you have the balls to give him credit for

Chris had a good back and a better taper than Dorian , Dillet had a good back and a much better taper than Dorian , Francios had a great back and a better taper than Dorian , Fux had a great back and a better taper than Dorian , all had better tapers including Ronnie who in 1997 was 255lbs had a great back and a better taper than Dorian , your better taper means dick in regaurds to Dorian Yates he doesn't need a better taper to beat Coleman he never needed in fact to beat anyone

[pumpster]

Enough of this crap.  Dorian is better, Ronnie has inflated muscles with no quality and looks like a retard with false legs.  End of story.

Classic simpleton. We've seen this before: "I think Yates is better but can't substantiate anything, they've provided pics and now even videos that say otherwise, a getbig poll
Coleman >>>>> Yates, but Yates is far better." DUH!!

[Hulkster]

No you keep going on how the whole board is laughing at me and blah . blah , blah   its you and a bunch of Uber-Coleman fans you find comfort in numbers , you think this validates your opionion it doesn't ,

actually, the pics and videos validate my opinion...ya know the ones you guys won't comment on?

what more do you need? The pics, movies, and precious quotes  that you love so much (from guys like sergio, dillett and Wheeler) also help to back it up.

Who shares your opinion? Suckmyasshole? ahahahahahaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster you've got balls posting a tiny pick of Francios and claiming he's ' blocky ' then again it goes to show you you have nothing !!

His waist & hips are smaller & narrower than Yates and his back was almost as wide , so block this  

[LuciusFox]

people who pick Ronnie do not pick him because they are "fans".

They pick his physique becase of the incrediby drastic differences in shape, taper, detail and vascularity seen here:



among other things..

and see on VIDEO here:

99 Grand Prix Ronnie:

99 Olympia Ronnie:

http://shiftedshapes.net/Ronnie_Coleman_1999_Mr%5b1%5d.Olympia.wmv

Compre to the "best of Yates":

&search=dorian%20yates

This isn't about popularity. Its about who had a better physique based on the critera of detail, vascularity, shape and taper (size is not really a factor because they are almost even there).

And given such ground rules, its obvious why most of Getbig, in fact, most of the bodybuilding community as a whole, pick Ronnie.

  I'll give the truck driver credit for having such persistant fans

[Hulkster]

Dillet had a good back

more ND delusions...

[Hulkster]

Hulkster you've got balls posting a tiny pick of Francios and claiming he's ' blocky ' then again it goes to show you you have nothing !!

His waist & hips are smaller & narrower than Yates and his back was almost as wide , so block this  

Francois had one of the longest torso with the highest lats in history. I would actually argue that Dorian in his prime had a BETTER taper than Mike did.


bad taper. Great guy, awesome bodybuilder. But poor taper.

[NarcissisticDeity]

actually, the pics and videos validate my opinion...ya know the ones you guys won't comment on?

what more do you need? The pics, movies, and precious quotes  that you love so much (from guys like sergio, dillett and Wheeler) also help to back it up.

Who shares your opinion? Suckmyasshole? ahahahahahaha

You're an obsessed fan-boy I've seen the videos I've seen the pics , they mean your opinion is right to you not to me I'm not even a huge fan of Dorian's physique I can comment objectively something you cannot you're an obsessed fan who thinks very naievly that Coleman us unbeatable lol you've been duped by MD who is touting Coleman has the second comming you look at Coleman's reign it becomes very apparent Ronnie is very beatable !! who in his prime has Ronnie beat ? Flex , Cormier , Dillet , Ray ? all guys Dorian beat outright when they were much sharper , the fact is Ronnie NEVER faced anyone of Dorian's caliber in his prime , Ronnie never met anyone who could match or even surpass him on the back , Ronnie NEVER faced anyone has big as Dorian and as Dry , so its not Dorian who has to stand up to the challenge its Ronnie , Dorian's density & drynes , balance & proportion , size & completness absolutely destroy any fantasy advantage you can claim , but hero-worship prevents you from seeing this

[Hulkster]

I can comment objectively something you cannot

LOL man, you are spouting bullshit this morning.

So, let me get this straight:

You are saying that your opinions that:

-vascularity does not matter
-Dorian had a great taper
-Dorian had cut quads
-Dorian had better overall arms than Ronnie
-Dorian had a better back double bi BECAUSE OF CALVES

is OBJECTIVE?

Unreal

No, objectivity is watching the videos and noting the drastic differences.

It is not pretending they do no exist and grasping for straws by bringing Fux and Dillett into this..

Hell, you brought Lee Haney into this and it backfired on you.

[pumpster]

You're an obsessed fan-boy I've seen the videos I've seen the pics , they mean your opinion is right to you not to me I'm not even a huge fan of Dorian's physique

How many times has ND fallen back on "dryness", calves & forearms?

Bottom line:
Pics, videos, getbig poll:

Coleman >>> Yates

(Yates > Columbu by a hair)

[NarcissisticDeity]

Francois had one of the longest torso with the highest lats in history. I would actually argue that Dorian in his prime had a BETTER taper than Mike did.


bad taper. Great guy, awesome bodybuilder. But poor taper.

Another typical Hulkster response , thats when he won the Nationals , you know NOT at his prime , his back wasn't on par with what it became , especially in the lat dept !! you're desperate when you post these pics man lol they show you're reaching lol remember you're theory about ' embyronic Ronnie ' who in fact was a lot closer to his prime than Mike is right there   FYI once Mike it his stride he was competing 25 pounds heavier , while ' embryonic Coleman ' it his prime he was competing at just 2 pounds heavier , see the differnce?   and no question about it , Francios' taper was better than Dorians , no matter how lame your assesment that Mike is blocky  

lol what a loser , blocky !! oh-boy

[Hulkster]

blocky was probably not the right word.

Dexter Jackson-like is.  Long, long toso, very, very, high lats.

Not exactly the classic bodybuilding ideal is it?

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL man, you are spouting bullshit this morning.

So, let me get this straight:

You are saying that your opinions that:

-vascularity does not matter
-Dorian had a great taper
-Dorian had cut quads
-Dorian had better overall arms than Ronnie
-Dorian had a better back double bi BECAUSE OF CALVES

is OBJECTIVE?

Unreal

No, objectivity is watching the videos and noting the drastic differences.

It is not pretending they do no exist and grasping for straws by bringing Fux and Dillett into this..

Hell, you brought Lee Haney into this and it backfired on you.

You're getting as bad as pumpster in all seriousness , you really are !! you made the claim that Dorian never met anyone with a great taper , width and a back , he did , you're a tool for not admiting you're wrong and have been proven wrong on this issue , he is a pic of another guy he beat with a better taper , width and a back , and he beat him , you have nothing for me

[Hulkster]

you made the claim that Dorian never met anyone with a great taper , width and a back , he did ,

and he lost.

Period.

ND owns himself.

[NarcissisticDeity]

blocky was probably not the right word.

Dexter Jackson-like is.  Long, long toso, very, very, high lats.

Not exactly the classic bodybuilding ideal is it?

blocky was monumentaly-fucking-stupid and grasping at straws !! again you're grasping when you say he has a long . long torso , and very , very high lats , long torso yes , highlats in the Orville Burke sense I would say no but either way a better taper than Dorian