Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

and he lost.

Period.

ND owns himself.

No , he beat Ronnie who in 1997 had a fantastic back , spectaular taper and width , and Fux , and Francios and Cormier , and Dillet abd Levrone , ect so own this

[NarcissisticDeity]

Very true. I'm not a big fan of Coleman, but black & white thinkers like ANUS & ND would never be able to grasp that. Yates though, is one of the worst i've seen, and Coleman's obviously great.

The fact you can't even admit Dorian's domience & superiorty over his contemporaries clearly shows your bias and denile , you're anything but objective and honest , like the rest of Camp-Coleman personal prefferences keep you from being objective you or anyone else cannout counter this .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Great width , taper and back and he fell hard 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster = Owned 

[Hulkster]

Of course Dorian dominated his contemporaries. because none of them had size and a wide back. Thats all the judges cared about. Not right, but whats done is done.  The judges had tunnel vision back then.  The quality that dorian lacked was overlooked in place of his back thickness and size.

Get yourself some popcorn, jack off to some dorian pics, and watch the videos again.

Even you should be able to see that Ronnie is superior..

[Hulkster]

Ronnie did have a wide back in 1996 and 7 ect. but he lacked the main thing that kept him from doing well in the big contests:

exposure and recognition from the judges.

Its pretty obvious to all that have seen the videos and clips that Ronnie should have placed higher in at least some of his olympia outings prior to 1998.

The reason that he did not was that he was overlooked by the olympia judges.

oh, and Ronnie's quads SUCKED in 1997 and prior years.

[ANAL DISCHARGE]

Classic simpleton. We've seen this before: "I think Yates is better but can't substantiate anything, they've provided pics and now even videos that say otherwise, a getbig poll
Coleman >>>>> Yates, but Yates is far better." DUH!!

Pumpster referring to anyone else as simple is the epitome of irony.  This from a guy with no job, no education and nothing in life beyond this board and his incestual activities.

The point was, this has already been proved, Dorian is better - beautifully explained throughout this thread.  Hulkster, bless his little soul, continues his ramblings rather like the Dukes shouting "turn them back on" when all is lost at the end of Trading Places - but I digress.  This of course has flown straight over your head Pumpster as you continue with your patethic rant.  Have you considered suicide yet?  

Notice some pics of Francois - never a fan of his - torso too long in the way Ronnie's is too short, high lats and never looked right to me. 

[pumpster]

The fact you can't even admit Dorian's domience & superiorty over his contemporaries clearly shows your bias and denile , you're anything but objective and honest , like the rest of Camp-Coleman personal prefferences keep you from being objective you or anyone else cannout counter this .

You two geniuses obviously can't be objective, therefore let's review, children:

Getbig poll:
Coleman >>> Yates

Videos:
Unquestionably Coleman, and absolute silence from ND, SUCKMYASSHOLE, etc. I've left out ANUS, whose opinions are as tier-B as Yates.  

[NarcissisticDeity]

Of course Dorian dominated his contemporaries. because none of them had size and a wide back. Thats all the judges cared about. Not right, but whats done is done.  The judges had tunnel vision back then.  The quality that dorian lacked was overlooked in place of his back thickness and size.

Get yourself some popcorn, jack off to some dorian pics, and watch the videos again.

Even you should be able to see that Ronnie is superior..

Ah a losers argument lol Dorian didn't just dominate a higher caliber feild than Coleman did soley based on his wide back , he beat them for among other reasons , mainly because of his size , thickness , density and dryness , he didn't win because he had a great taper , or he was aesthetically pleasing , or because he met the Greek Ideal , he won because he was the size of Lou Ferigno and was dry like Frank Zane , getting dry while retaining massive ammounts of size is extremly difficult , look at Ronnie his best combo of size & dryness came at 249lbs in 1998 , in 1999 he was fuller at 257lbs but not as dry as 1998  and certainly not as dry as Dorian at the same weight , so in that reguards Ronnie isn't ' superior '  

[pumpster]

ND still not getting it: NEVER AGAIN USE THE "NO BIS" SHOT, IT IMMEDIATELY DEFEATS ANY ARGUMENT YOU TRY TO MAKE. 

It's like using this one and arguing that Yates deserved all of his Olympias..hahahahah

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie did have a wide back in 1996 and 7 ect. but he lacked the main thing that kept him from doing well in the big contests:

exposure and recognition from the judges.

Its pretty obvious to all that have seen the videos and clips that Ronnie should have placed higher in at least some of his olympia outings prior to 1998.

The reason that he did not was that he was overlooked by the olympia judges.

oh, and Ronnie's quads SUCKED in 1997 and prior years.

He wasn't ' overlooked in 96/97 , he was winning contests he was a top teir pro so there goes that theory   and what Ronnie was in 96/97 was a victim of to many contests so his conditioning wasn't great  and his quads were freakin huge in 96/97 but not as big as 99

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND still not getting it: NEVER AGAIN USE THE "NO BIS" SHOT, IT IMMEDIATELY DEFEATS ANY ARGUMENT YOU TRY TO MAKE. 

It's like using this one and arguing that Yates deserved all of his Olympias..hahahahah

See deserving all his Olympias is somthing a Coleman fan should really , really not comment on lol I mean really and the ' no bis ' pic your commenting on , he beat Coleman in that contest so that right there validates my point , he doesn't obviously need Coleman's advantages to beat him 

[pumpster]

ND must work for the IFBB-Yates beat those guys with contest results that were highly questionable, except to ND. Realities that like everything else ND has conveniently dismissed:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=76114.0

Anyone with flapjacks like these wasn't a deserving multiple-Olympia winner:

[Hulkster]

He wasn't ' overlooked in 96/97 , he was winning contests he was a top teir pro so there goes that theory   and what Ronnie was in 96/97 was a victim of to many contests so his conditioning wasn't great  and his quads were freakin huge in 96/97 but not as big as 99

no he wasn't - he was winning MINOR shows like the Canada Pro cup.

At any big name show like the NOC (got shafted - got beat by flex because of name recognition - notice how Ronnie beats flex at the minor show (canada pro cup) but loses at the big show - thats how political the judges system was).

And he placed poorly at EVERY Mr. O. he ever entered right up until he won in 1998.

He was always overlooked at the big name shows. He might have been teir A at the minor shows, but he was more like Teir C at the big ones.

[Hulkster]

I have been saying this for 2 years now, but some like ND just can't seem to grasp the concept..


ND says that Dorian was dryer than Ronnie was here at the same bodyweight of 257 pounds.

Lets say that is true.

My question is:


(Yates at 257 in 1993)
What difference would it make?? The detail, shape and vascularity just isn't there...

ND, in this post that you ignored, as well as all the videos - Dorian's dryness has been shown to be inconsequential against Ronnie because for all the dryness that dorian had, he did not have the striations and detail that Ronnie did (except for the minor lower back and abs).

[pumpster]

Dryness with virtually no arm detail whatsoever...nothing but a couple of ugly-ass veins..


That's in addition to the arms being way too small for the torso = obvious imbalance.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no he wasn't - he was winning MINOR shows like the Canada Pro cup.

At any big name show like the NOC (got shafted - got beat by flex because of name recognition - notice how Ronnie beats flex at the minor show (canada pro cup) but loses at the big show - thats how political the judges system was).

And he placed poorly at EVERY Mr. O. he ever entered right up until he won in 1998.

He was always overlooked at the big name shows. He might have been teir A at the minor shows, but he was more like Teir C at the big ones.

Are you kidding me ? now you're going to bitch about which contests he won? ask any pro without a win if winning a ' minor ' show means anything , he outright beat Flex Wheeler in 1996 thats says he can compete with the best period , it doesn't matter which show it was he beat one of the best pro at that time , and he came in second to Flex 2 more times that year !! that means he could hang with the big boys , he was a victim of way to many contests , the judges didn't overlook him , he couldn't peak for every single contest in 1996 he competed in 7 contest and in 1997 he did 11 shows , you think he' going to look fantastic at the Olympia after that run?   perhaps if he would have cut back the contests and concentrated on the Olympia he would have placed higher but when you begin to get competitive in the Pro ranks you make as much money as you can .

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, in this post that you ignored, as well as all the videos - Dorian's dryness has been shown to be inconsequential against Ronnie because for all the dryness that dorian had, he did not have the striations and detail that Ronnie did (except for the minor lower back and abs).

No his dryness hasn't been shown to be inconsequential not in the least , not by you or anyone else , Dorian has detail which you refuse to admit , he does have striations , Ronnie may have more but to one deny Yates has any except in his intercostles & lowerback isn't 100% accurate , he has a striated chest , lower lats , lower back , intercostles , again Dorian beat pleanty of people with a hell of a lot more striations & vasculairty then himself , so again thats a moot advantage .

[Hulkster]

Ronnie wasn't always out of shape at the olympia shows - there was a video posted back a few hundred pages ago in this thread that shows Ronnie in great shape at the 1997 Olympia, and Dorian getting owned by everyone.

I guess you didn't watch that one either...

ronnie was overlooked at some of the big shows in favor of big name guys.

Hell, he was even overlooked at the begining of hte 1998 show.

[pumpster]

No his dryness hasn't been shown to be inconsequential not in the least , not by you or anyone else , Dorian has detail which you refuse to admit , he does have striations

ND stock answer to anything: "Dryness, forearms & calves = greatness"

[Hulkster]

again Dorian beat pleanty of people with a hell of a lot more striations & vasculairty then himself , so again thats a moot advantage .

see, you just aren't grasping this yet - yes, dorian did but NONE of them had a back, great size and great lat thickness! They all had some of these attributes but not all.

peak Ronnie did.

therefore, he would overwhelm dorian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie wasn't always out of shape at the olympia shows - there was a video posted back a few hundred pages ago in this thread that shows Ronnie in great shape at the 1997 Olympia, and Dorian getting owned by everyone.

I guess you didn't watch that one either...

ronnie was overlooked at some of the big shows in favor of big name guys.

Hell, he was even overlooked at the begining of hte 1998 show.

Oh so I guess you'll be subscribing to pumpster's conspircy theories about how the Weiders held Ronnie down lol one he was on excellent shape in 96 hence why he placed 6th in 97 he did a ton of shows and he wasn't as sharp as 96 hence why he placed just 9th , he wasn't nearly as dry as he was in 98 couple that with peaking to many times in one year and you have your reason why he was ' overlooked ' and in 1998 he was NOT overlooked in fact he was leading Flex in the musculairty & symmetry rounds going into the night show , so thats nonsense as well .

[pumpster]

so I guess you'll be subscribing to pumpster's conspircy theories about how the Weiders held Ronnie down lol one he was on excellent shape in 96 hence why he placed 6th in 97 he did a ton of shows and he wasn't as sharp as 96

Where have you been, other than Iron Age aka Flex? They're hardly my theories, except to someone who lives in his parent's basement..
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=76114.0

[Big N]

This thread would never die out for the simple fact, its "politics." But here's my 2 cents, i'd say Yates was in his own class back then and Coleman is in his own class now. Its simple math, time changes


peace

[pumpster]

i'd say Yates was in his own class back then and Coleman is in his own class now.

Sounds good read within the pages of Flex, then you see various pics in which Yates is a solid 3rd-4th place..

Even with Dillet's back issues, he's so far out in front of Yates from other angles..!