Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Praetor Fenix]

After 173 dull/boring pages, this is all that camp-Yates has managed to secure:

- Calves
(smaller overall size, but better proportion, shred, and balance in gastrocnemius/soleus)

- "Grain"
(mysteriously absent in standard color photography)

- Dryness w/ minimal detail

- Lower Back
(comparable development, superior conditioning)

Points I would like to debate further, still under "contention":
- Triceps
- Forearms
- Rectus Abdominis

The remainder is indisputable, and these few points hardly constitute any appreciable portion of an objective physical assessment (let alone a majority!).

[Adam Empire]

Ok, I missed the first 172 pages of this thread.  Can somebody tell me...  who is better Yates or Coleman?


 

[Hulkster]

After 173 dull/boring pages, this is all that camp-Yates has managed to secure:

- Calves
(smaller overall size, but better proportion, shred, and balance in gastrocnemius/soleus)

- "Grain"
(mysteriously absent in standard color photography)

- Dryness w/ minimal detail

- Lower Back
(comparable development, superior conditioning)

Points I would like to debate further, still under "contention":
- Triceps
- Forearms
- Rectus Abdominis

The remainder is indisputable, and these few points hardly constitute any appreciable portion of an objective physical assessment (let alone a majority!).

true. The dorian camp has taken a few minor bodyparts and made them the only thing that matters. Totally wrong.  According to them, the major parts like chest, quads and arms don't really matter.

And the comment about the graininess is true.

[pumpster]

Quote from: Praetor Fenix on Today at 09:08:17 PM
After 173 dull/boring pages, this is all that camp-Yates has managed to secure:

- Calves
(smaller overall size, but better proportion, shred, and balance in gastrocnemius/soleus)

- "Grain"
(mysteriously absent in standard color photography)

- Dryness w/ minimal detail

- Lower Back
(comparable development, superior conditioning)

Points I would like to debate further, still under "contention":
- Triceps
- Forearms
- Rectus Abdominis

The remainder is indisputable, and these few points hardly constitute any appreciable portion of an objective physical assessment (let alone a majority!).

true. The dorian camp has taken a few minor bodyparts and made them the only thing that matters. Totally wrong.

The list leaves out best bricklayer.

[suckmymuscle]

  Dorian had the thickest, baddest back in bodybuilding history. The 98 Ronnie could match him in detil, but not in thickness. The larger versions of Coleman are pathetically defective in detail and hardness.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Funny how arms are always put forwards as one of Coleman's main strenghs. Even at a higher bodyweight, Ronnie's arms look flat and small in relation to his overall body size. Dorian never had fantastic biceps, but his arms were excellent - even if not outstanding.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

Dorian had the thickest, baddest back in bodybuilding history. The 98 Ronnie could match him in detil, but not in thickness.

The consistently delusional SUCKMYASSHOLE conveniently leaves out the fact that Coleman has a huge advantage both in width and in taper. Immediately makes it absurd to say Yates was better when he couldn't compete in those areas.

[pumpster]

Funny how arms are always put forwards as one of Coleman's main strenghs. Even at a higher bodyweight, Ronnie's arms look flat and small in relation to his overall body size.  Dorian never had fantastic biceps, but his arms were excellent

Funnier still is SUCKMYASSHOLE'S desperate attempt to spin Yates' arms into something better than mediocre. His bis sucked, and as i've established, his tris consisted only of good lateral head cuts which Coleman came close on, and which amounted to Yates' only good triceps shot. There was precious little size. Coleman's tris appear to be almost twice the size.

Since SUCKMYASSHOLE offerred some pics, let's compare. Try not to laugh even if the contrast's farcical.

[suckmymuscle]

  I am shocked that there re people who have the courage to say Ronnie has a better triceps than Dorian. In the side tris pose, Dorian's superiority over Coleman was OVERWHELMING. And look how short Ronnie's triceps muscle belly is.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Close to 260 lbs. Look at the outstanding taper, with such incredible dryness. AND he has perfect, impeccable balance.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

I am shocked that there re people who have the courage to say Ronnie has a better triceps than Dorian. In the side tris pose, Dorian's superiority over Coleman was OVERWHELMING.

You have consistently proven yourself a blockhead bereft of basic understandings of physiology.

1/ On size, no comparison-Yates doesn't have it, as shown in both comparisons-huge size advantage even on side tris.

2/ On cuts, fairly close as shown. Only you believe Coleman has any issues with shape, which should be a big hint to you that your cognitive abilities have again let you down.

[suckmymuscle]

  Again, close to 260 lbs, Dorian displayed a combination of hardness and dryness the likes of which Ronnie can only dream of. His obliques are clearly etched at this weight. Coleman midsection sucks, in comparison.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

MORPHED.

secondly:

Even at a higher bodyweight, Ronnie's arms look flat and small in relation to his overall body size]

What the fuck are you talking about??



The delusions expressed on this thread by ND and SMA know no bounds...

Whats next? Ronnie's pecs are small?

[pumpster]

Again, close to 260 lbs, Dorian displayed a combination of hardness and dryness the likes of which Ronnie

Seriously SUCKMYASSHOLE is beginning to sound like a mental patient. It's already been established that Yates' advantages are limited to "graininess", "hardness", "dryness", calves & forearms-a pretty sad assortment for a supposed "great". Pathetic in fact.

[Hulkster]

  Close to 260 lbs. Look at the outstanding taper, with such incredible dryness. AND he has perfect, impeccable balance.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

yup and notice the huge flaps of skin where his arms are straining with all their might to hold in his enormous waist..
move his hands and your great taper goes out the window..

[pumpster]

His obliques are clearly etched at this weight. Coleman midsection sucks, in comparison

Established tens of pages back that Yates has an advantage in six-pack and etching, but also has a wider waist. Not that much difference between them when both of those factors are considered-Yates with an edge in detail, Coleman with a smaller waist, wider lats and thus a big advantage in taper.

[LyricTenor]

I've always liked these shots of Dorian.

[suckmymuscle]

  Even though his biceps became a libility after 1994, Dorian's arms, with the exception of the biceps, were never bad. The thickness and etchiness of his tris and forearms are legendary.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

No particular advantage; on back it comes down to personal taste on one of the only major areas where he's comparable with Coleman. Yates with the advantage in density and dryness, Coleman big advantages in taper and lat width.

[pumpster]

Dorian's arms, with the exception of the biceps, were never bad. The thickness and etchiness of his tris and forearms are legendary.

The only thing Yates had going for him on upper arms was lateral triceps definition. This is not the same thing as having good triceps, which would also require size. Something a judge would understand and SUCKMYASSHOLE doesn't.

Here again on Yates' only triceps shot, Coleman almost as good on cuts and with a striking size advantage.

Yates was able to fool a lot of people on his tris because of definition that distracted from a lack of size.

[suckmymuscle]

MORPHED.

secondly:

What the fuck are you talking about??



The delusions expressed on this thread by ND and SMA know no bounds...

Whats next? Ronnie's pecs are small?

  This shot is not morphed, you son of a bitch! And while Ronnie looks huge and dense in the bottom pic, he has a giant distended midsection and quads that completely overpower his upper body. How convenient of you to choose a shot where both these liabilities are hidden!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

Again not picking up on the facts that they both had guts, the difference being (1) Yates also had a wide waist, making frontal shots problematics, something Coleman didn't have to worry about, and (2) Yates didn't have the same amount of size to help compensate for the gut.

As before, these guys can only come up with side shots of Ron's gut. Here's Yates from each angle:

[sculpture]

  This shot is not morphed, you son of a bitch! And while Ronnie looks huge and dense in the bottom pic, he has a giant distended midsection and quads that completely overpower his upper body. How convenient of you to choose a shot where both these liabilities are hidden!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Yes it is morphed so once again chichi, you next to zero credibility has sank even further (is that possible?).

Think before you post these pictures man. They render your entire sad posts irrelevant.

Open your eyes.

[NarcissisticDeity]

1994

[pumpster]

This shot is not morphed, you son of a bitch!

Widely discussed in previous threads; obvious to anyone reasonably perceptive. Didn't it occur to you to at least compare it with this one before posting? You didn't notice a "slight" difference?

DUH!

Message to SUCKMYASSHOLE: you've blown it again. You knew only the morphed pic compared with Coleman.