Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[delta9mda]

no truce yet?

[pumpster]

no truce yet?

SUCKY's got ass on his mind, ND's busy formulating more flawed analogies that lead nowhere. Other than that the battering continues. In another life those guys had tickets on the Titanic. hahahah

[FREAKgeek]

  His pathetic calves and lack of overall back detail - especially compared to 98 - completely destroys his look from the back.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

He's destroying the Mr. olympia runner up in back development here and all you see is "pathetic calves".

[pumpster]

He's destroying the Mr. olympia runner up in back development here and all you see is "pathetic calves".

hahahahh the genius SUCKY at work again..

[Hulkster]

He's destroying the Mr. olympia runner up in back development here and all you see is "pathetic calves".

hahahahahaahaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahahahahaahaha

The runner-up destorying the winner in the back double bicep shot with much better calves 

[pumpster]

I would give Jay that pose in that particular contest actually, though one of the bis looks morphed. The problem was a lot of the other poses.

Calves barely into the equation though, being more realistic than ND can manage. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I would give Jay that pose in that particular contest actually, though one of the bis looks morphed. The problem was a lot of the other poses.

Calves barely into the equation though, being more realistic than ND can manage. 

He also beat Coleman on the rearlatspread !!

[sculpture]

He also beat Coleman on the rearlatspread !!

Sorry but thats utter bollocks chico and you know it

[Hulkster]

He also beat Coleman on the rearlatspread !!

no he didn't:



don't make the mistake of using flexonline pics to judge that contest. They were the worst on the entire internet - way too darking making Ronnie appear smaller than he actually was.


ronnie's back, while down from his 1998/9 or 2003 standards, was still the best of the contest in 2005.

[Hulkster]

ronnie posing at the 2003 Mr. O. Insane.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no he didn't:


don't make the mistake of using flexonline pics to judge that contest. They were the worst on the entire internet - way too darking making Ronnie appear smaller than he actually was.


ronnie's back, while down from his 1998/9 or 2003 standards, was still the best of the contest in 2005.

Flex magazines reported that Cutler at the 05 Olympia edge by Coleman in the rear double biceps and the rear latspread and Coleman wins the sidechest and front latspread .

[Hulkster]

Flex magazines reported that Cutler at the 05 Olympia edge by Coleman in the rear double biceps and the rear latspread and Coleman wins the sidechest and front latspread .

why do you care what Flex "reported"?

use your own eyes for judgment.

If flex reported that 2+2 =5, would you believe that too?

 
You base everything on quotes and reports, without looking to the actual physiques themselves.

Bodybuilding competition is not about words or numbers.

Its about comparing physiques using eyesight and applying pre-determined criteria with which to evaluate the bodies. These criteria include: shape, detail, vascularity, size and taper.

The mere fact that this debate is 190 pages shows that you are having trouble applying these concepts.

[NarcissisticDeity]

why do you care what Flex "reported"?

use your own eyes for judgment.

If flex reported that 2+2 =5, would you believe that too?

 
You base everything on quotes and reports, without looking to the actual physiques themselves.

Bodybuilding competition is not about words or numbers.

Its about comparing physiques using eyesight and applying pre-determined criteria with which to evaluate the bodies. These criteria include: shape, detail, vascularity, size and taper.

The mere fact that this debate is 190 pages shows that you are having trouble applying these concepts.

You're such a little girl because if Flex was singing Ronnie's prasies then that would be A-O-kay with you because you don't like it therefore it doesn't apply 

And I just love how you include the judging the criteria which you feel best suits Ronnie lol don't forget the other judging criteria like muscle balance & proportion , conditioning , posing , I've been saying Dorian would beat Ronnie is MOST of the mandatory poses since day one and again Dorian doesn't have to be Ronnie to beat Ronnie all he has to do is be Dorian and its worked extremely well for him from 92-97.

[pumpster]

why do you care what Flex "reported"?

use your own eyes for judgment.

As one of Perrine's premier nut-huggers, you better believe he cares what Flex/Iron Age say, dammit! 

[the shadow]

no he didn't:



don't make the mistake of using flexonline pics to judge that contest. They were the worst on the entire internet - way too darking making Ronnie appear smaller than he actually was.


ronnie's back, while down from his 1998/9 or 2003 standards, was still the best of the contest in 2005.

shut up ass wipe..flexonline had the best pics on the entire internet..ur smokin the crack

[LyricTenor]

Flex magazines reported that Cutler at the 05 Olympia edge by Coleman in the rear double biceps and the rear latspread and Coleman wins the sidechest and front latspread .

Thats a little embarrassing.

[Hurricane Beef !]

Sick . . .

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[suckmymuscle]

He's destroying the Mr. olympia runner up in back development here and all you see is "pathetic calves".

  No. I was pointing out how pathetic his level of details and overall softness is, especially when compared to his smaller versions. Oh, by the way, Cutler has edged past Ronnie in the back doule biceps, which used to be Ron's signature shot. Peter McGough agrees with me. Here are both Cutler and Dexter giving the current standard-bearer a massive anal raping.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

Sick . . .

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  He always does this shit. Combining classical music with hip hop. How classy!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

P.S: Both his taper and level of details suck.

[Oliver Klaushof]

Sick . . .

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Water logged mass.

I was seriously expecting better.

Marious Pudz. would look better than that dieted down.

[pumpster]

Ya this guy looks a lot better-totally unspiring with striking mediocrity with boring blah size, boring shape & arms that are overwhelmed by the torso as usual, structural issues including blocky waist, minimal taper topped by muscular obliques. Nice! 

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[Praetor Fenix]

No. I was pointing out how pathetic his level of details and overall softness is

Detail = striations, vascularity, and layered muscle.
Ronnie exceeds Dorian in each of these three facets. To argue otherwise is futile.

especially when compared to his smaller versions.

If Ronnie was so terrible in 2003, why do you always attempt to shift the focus to his earlier, lighter showings? I know ... Ronnie's muscularity was so overwhelming in 2003. Coupled with his superior symmetry and detail, Dorian would have absolutely no chance to win.

Oh, by the way, Cutler has edged past Ronnie in the back doule biceps, which used to be Ron's signature shot.

Irrelevant. Jay Cutler is an excellent bodybuilder ... Dorian wasn't. Dorian doesn't have Jay Cutler's biceps peaks, doesn't have his triceps brachii hang, didnt have the 3-dimensional mass and deep contours in the upper back like Ron or Jay have (Dorian's upper back looks flat with arms elevated).

I can't fathom why you keep comparing Ronnie to Jay in a
DORIAN VS RONNIE debate. Are you sure you even read the title of this thread? 

Peter McGough agrees with me. Here are both Cutler and Dexter giving the current standard-bearer a massive anal raping.

No he doesn't. He whole-heartedly believed that Ronnie deserved to win in 2003, but he stated he still preferred his 2001 Arnold Classic form. It is 2005 you are referring to, and his 2005 package was entirely different.

[Praetor Fenix]

He always does this shit. Combining classical music with hip hop. How classy!

Would you prefer he amble around aimlessly onstage to rock-and-roll music??

P.S: Both his taper and level of details suck.

His taper is better than Dorian's. A simple equation:
Wider lats + Wider delts + Smaller Waist + Lower Lat Origins = Superior V-Taper

You aren't a dumb guy ... you can't possibly argue that Dorian was ever as wide as Ronnie in 2003. I'm referring to delt width and lat width. Ronnie's waist has always been smaller too, and this is completely unrelated to drugs, food, etc. Its entirely genetic. Abdominal distension is an entirely different matter ... Ronnie's waist has always been thin.

So from the front & back, Ronnie's taper is far better due to the aforementioned.
Once again, detail = striations, vascularity, and layered muscle.
Dorian can't touch Ronnie in either of the previous three departments.

I'm sorry, detail is NOT "grain" that disappears in person or in color photography.
Detail is NOT "dryness" if there are no underlying striations or blood vessels.

[Hulkster]

Sick . . .

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he is huge at that show, but holding water. Compare this to the 2003 video

 - he was in much better shape in 2003 than in 2004.