Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Go away beeeotch. You lost. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Go away beeeotch. You lost. 

Again how does Ronnie compensate for having a gut despite being 15lbs lighter? lol who lost?  I thought so .

[pumpster]

Gut PLUS balloon obliques without upper body size...Even I am embarassed for ND.. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Gut without size...Even I am embarassed for ND.. 

He's 270lbs in those pics how does he not have any size? and now you're really digging yourself into a hole lol now how does Ronnie compensate size wise for his gut at 247lbs compared to a 270lb Dorian? lol thats a 23lb weight difference , so mathmatician please explain how Ronnie's compensates size weise for his gut dispite now being 23lbs lighter? lol

[pumpster]

Like a robot he does the same thing, which only proves:

-Coleman has a gut, like Yates.

But Yates also had:

-Balloon obliques & wide waist

-Little size or taper

Completely different-still waiting for a bad front shot of Coleman while posing. Side shots like this we already know about.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Like a robot he does the same thing, which only proves:

-Coleman has a gut, like Yates.

But Yates also had:

-Balloon obliques & wide waist

-Little size or taper

Completely different-still waiting for a bad front shot of Coleman while posing. Side shots like this we already know about.

Okay bad front shor sport , you tired of getting owned yet?

[nicorulez]

ND, he is not posing.  Levrone and he are bullshitting on the stage.  If that is what you consier posing, you need to get out and see a real show.  I really think this gut thing is getting overplayed.  Both had guts, but when they were flexing or posing, it was not readily apparent (for either of them).  Now, neither is Haney or Labrda, but come on.  Yates did not look stellar in 1994/1997.  He was lucky to be the incumbant.  Ronnie was off in 2001/2002.  However, he brought it to the table after that.  Regardless what you think ND, you still have not posted one pic of Ronnie in fully flexed pose (not mid-pose) where is gut is a huge distraction.  I dare you to find one.  You won't.  You always post pics of him relaxed or turning.  BFD.

[NeoSeminole]

ND needs another reminder why Ronnie is better than Dorian

















All ND can say is "the pics aren't scaled properly b/c Dorian's waist should be bigger"   

[ribonucleic]

In that last comparison, Dorian's glutes are more shredded. So, Dorian wins. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND needs another reminder why Ronnie is better than Dorian

















All ND can say is "the pics aren't scaled properly b/c Dorian's waist should be bigger"   

One they ARE NOT scaled properly so they are not 100% fair and accurate . but then again I wouldn't expect fairness out of a Coleman fan . look at the bottom pic of them standing relaxed thats Dorian from the 1993 Mr Olympia he weighed 257lbs and thats pic of Ronnie is from the 1998 Mr Olympia where he weighed 249lbs , you have to be out of your mind if you think for a moment Ronnie weighing almost 10lbs less is going to make Dorian look small , keep trying kid .

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, he is not posing.  Levrone and he are bullshitting on the stage.  If that is what you consier posing, you need to get out and see a real show.  I really think this gut thing is getting overplayed.  Both had guts, but when they were flexing or posing, it was not readily apparent (for either of them).  Now, neither is Haney or Labrda, but come on.  Yates did not look stellar in 1994/1997.  He was lucky to be the incumbant.  Ronnie was off in 2001/2002.  However, he brought it to the table after that.  Regardless what you think ND, you still have not posted one pic of Ronnie in fully flexed pose (not mid-pose) where is gut is a huge distraction.  I dare you to find one.  You won't.  You always post pics of him relaxed or turning.  BFD.

I've already owned you before but now I have to do it again lol   

[alexxx]

Who's the pasty man trying to keep up with coleman?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hey wait you can clearly see Ronnie distended GUT while he is locked in a pose at the prejudging   notice how Ronnie is convexed and Jays is concaved

[NeoSeminole]

One they ARE NOT scaled properly so they are not 100% fair and accurate . but then again I wouldn't expect fairness out of a Coleman fan . look at the bottom pic of them standing relaxed thats Dorian from the 1993 Mr Olympia he weighed 257lbs and thats pic of Ronnie is from the 1998 Mr Olympia where he weighed 249lbs , you have to be out of your mind if you think for a moment Ronnie weighing almost 10lbs less is going to make Dorian look small , keep trying kid .

All this talk about Dorian looking "more dense" and then you cry when it doesn't work for his advantage. What do you think density means?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Are you trying to say that Ronnie had the bigger gut in terms of sheer volume?  I would agree.  However, Dorian's gut was probably at least 20% bigger given his lack of upper body mass compared to Ronnie.

Depends on what years you're talking about.

[BroadStreetBruiser]

233 pages?!?!?!?! are you fucking serious?

[alexxx]

233 pages?!?!?!?! are you fucking serious?

Thats nothing! Wait till they get to 5000000000000000 than we really will be in trouble!

[NarcissisticDeity]

All this talk about Dorian looking "more dense" and then you cry when it doesn't work for his advantage. What do you think density means?

Here is a picture of BOTH together onstage , side BY side no bullshit Ronnie is 250lbs and Dorian is 255lbs now compare this to your bullshit pics and you'll see at the same weight or less he isn't making Dorian look small .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Exactly which Dorian do you defend?  1993 I'm guessing?

Sorry, I skipped over the last couple hundred pages of this thread, so can you sum it up, who is better: Dorian or Ronnie?

 

Well that depends on who you talk to lol

[Oliver Klaushof]

  I disagree. Ronnie certainly has far superior biceps than Dorian any weight, and the biceps are definitely better than Dorian's, at any weight. But the thing is that the biceps is only a small part - even if a very important one - of this mandatory.

  Ronnie, in his 250 lbs form, was able to surpass Dorian in the back double biceps when it came to details, and was almost equivalent in width. Yet, Dorian took him flat out when it came to muscularity, balance lower back detail and overrall hardness. When Ronnie ballooned to 287 lbs, he matched Dorian for thickness - even though his christmas-tree was still inferior to Dorian's -, but he remained only comparable in width and now lost flat out in separations, balance and hardness. I fail to see how the triceps is relevant in this pose, since Dorian's are more balanced and his three triceps muscle bellies are longer. Dorian's triceps is one of the areas where I strongly feel Dorian has the nod on Ronnie.

  As for the lower part in this mandatory, I disagree with you on most things. Dorian had striated glutes, on an era when this was not common. His glutes, at 257 lbs, were clearly more striated than even that of Ronnie's at 250 lbs; at 287 lbs, it's no contest: Dorian takes him lat out. Dorian also has better hamstrings and calves. Ronnie's hams, in 2003, were certainly humoungous; no one is uestioning that. But were they better than his at 250 lbs? No. Dorian's biceps femori always looked like that on a human anatomy chart: separated and striated to the point where the indentations of the fibers could be seen; Ronnie's were never that good. When it comes to calves, again, it's no contest: Dorian's are thicker, more separate and harder-looking. Ronnie's calves are too small for his body, taking away from his balance. Point for Dorian. From top to bottom, and all things considered, I think the 257 lbs Dorian and the 287 lbs Ronnie tie in the back double biceps: Ronnie is slightly wider, but Dorian is just as thick, with more separations and hardness. Ronnie takes him out in beceps, but Dorian takes him out in calves.

  His biceps were a liability, but, again, not even close enough to make him lose the pose. And I disagree that calves are unimportant: they might be unimportant when it comes to evaluating the muscularity of the back muscles in this mandatory, but, like every other bak bodypart it is of fundametal importance as far as balance goes.

  Dorian's upper thickness was comparable to Ronnie's, with the differene that, at 257 lbs, he had far superior details there -something at which Ronnie edged Dorian at, when he was around 250 lbs. Not only that, his middle bak is far superior, with a thiker hristmas-tree and more details. Dorian would also easily take him out in lower back details, as well. From top to bottom, on this mandatory, Dorian takes Ronnie out in separations, hardness and balance. I strongly disagree with your assesment that Ronnie had better hardness there than Dorian: the latter remains unsurpassed in the hardness department, and his ack was the hardest part of his physique.

  Whe it comes to overrall balance, no, the hamstrings and glutes are not more important that the calves. And even if they were, it wouldn't matter, because Dorian's glutes, at 257 lbs, were more striated than Ronnie's at 287 lbs. And as far as his hamstrings go, he laked Ronnie's thickness; ok, but his hams were more striated, harder and dryer. A strong case could be made, that Ronnie at 250 lbs, defeats Dorian in the bak double biceps, because he has superior separations and biccps, but such is not the case when he is 287 lbs, with the sole advantge of increased width, but with similar thikness and far less separations, balance and conditioning. If anything, the 257 lbs Dorian ties this mandatory with the 287 lbs Ronnie.

  Ronnie's back is not wider. You're forgetting, that Dorian Yates, had the widest lats in bodybuilding history. At 287 lbs, Ronnie's lats finally mathed Dorian's in width. But they were still inferior in thickness on the middle back. Roonie, at this weight, loses to Dorian when it comes to details both in the lower and upper backs. He also loses, flat out, in conditioning.

  I agree that a large part of detail is lost in a lat spread. Yet, the middle back is still visible and Dorian flat out detroys Ronnie there in thikness and details; the middle of the back, besides the spread itself, is the most important part of this mandatory. Dorian also wins in hardness, dryness and overrall balance. Ronnie has poor calves, and this compromises his overrall balance on this pose.

  Ronnie's hams are not better than Dorian's. You're mistaking "bigger" with "better". Ronnie did have a very slight edge in ham details when he was 250 lbs, but he lost this advantage completely when he wen't to 280+ lbs. Dorian's hamstrings were super-striated and dry; the same for his glutes. Ronnie's better? Ronnie's glutes were not even close to Dorian's in the striations department when Dorian was 257 lbs, and the same can be said for hamstrings. All things considered, Dorian wins this mandatory in everything except the spread of the lats, at which he merely equals Ronnie. All things onsidered, he does have a better rear lat spread than Ronnie.

  I completely disagree from you. Dorian's bak was not wide?! Ecuse me, but if there's one bodybuilder who wrote the book on lat width, it is Dorian. Dorian's lats were not merely wide; they were humoungously so. During his Olympia reign, he won the rear lat spread with straight firsts, from all judges, at all renditions of the contest!

  Secondly, Ronnie's waist is not smaller than Dorian. That was certainly the case in his 1998 form, but not in 2003. Dorian's smaller waist, in relation to the 2003 Ronnie, is a mathematical fact, beyond dispute: something which can be verified through tape measurement. The difference is small, because Ronnie does have a genetic advantage by having smaller hips, but Dorian's superiority is mathematically verifiable.

  Ronnie's gain of 40 lbs, from 2002 to 2003, was by no means all lean mass, and it was by no means a symmetrical gain. Most of Ronnie's size increase was in quad and midsection size. This is evident by the fact that Ronnie's lats were not significantly wider or thicker than Dorian's, even though he came in 30 lbs heavier. The 257 lbs Dorian loses in overrall thickness, but still has superior thickness in the middle of the back. He is comparable to Ronnie in width, but with superior upper and lower back details, hardness and overrall hardness. One again, he wins the rear lat spread, although by a small margin.

  No, it isn't. In fat, besides the flare of the lats itself, the thickness of the middle back is the most apparent factor in the rear lat spread, as far as muscularity goes. And Dorian flat out takes Ronnie out, even though he's 30 lbs kighter. He is dryer overrall and has more detail. He does win hen it comes to conditioning and hardness of the lower back, but also in hamstring quality: they are not as massive as Ronnie's, but more striated. His calves surpass Ronnie's both in size and striations. All things considered, Dorian is comprable in thickness, but with more details, hardness andbalance. Game over: he wins.

  I have conceded that the act of falring the lats is the most important element of the rear lat spread; hence, it's name. And, as I've also said, Dorian, at a bodyweight 30 lbs lighter, is comparable to Coleman, with perhaps a very small, insignificant edge to Dorian: we are talking about the most flared out lats in bodybuilding history. Period. Upper back detail is obscured in this mandatory, granted, but it's still relevant. And Dorian wins there as well. Dorian wins in thikness in the lower back as well, besides winning it in the middle back, and both these areas are druer and harder.

  If Cutler, who's back was never in Dorian's league, can push a 296 lbs Coleman to the brink, then what does that tell you that Dorian, with his preter-human back, would do to a 287 lbs Ronnie?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

HAHAHAHAAHAAHAHA PF, and Cock Rulz will never respond to this. You responded to ever flawed point and destroyed them! Team Yates sails on to an easy victory!!!!!

[Oliver Klaushof]

If Coleman see this he may go into premature labour from the shock! 

BTW, when is the alien due?

It needs to start a new colony. 

[Bast175]

233 pages?!?!?!?! are you fucking serious?

yea they are some nerdy fags.

[suckmymuscle]

HAHAHAHAAHAAHAHA PF, and Cock Rulz will never respond to this. You responded to ever flawed point and destroyed them! Team Yates sails on to an easy victory!!!!!

  HA HA HA! Thanks, Oliver! There'll be more to come. Far, far, FAR more! Im just getting warmed up!!!!!!!!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

If Coleman see this he may go into premature labour from the shock! 

BTW, when is the alien due?

It needs to start a new colony. 

    If the aliens who burst out from Coleman distended midsection turn out to be as smart as their mommy, Humanity has nothing to fear!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

Here is a picture of BOTH together onstage , side BY side no bullshit Ronnie is 250lbs and Dorian is 255lbs now compare this to your bullshit pics and you'll see at the same weight or less he isn't making Dorian look small.

Ronnie isn't even done flexing in that pic. Can't you tell or are you blinded by your bias for Dorian? Look how squished together Ronnie's trapezius are. Notice his lats aren't spread out?

Here is what Ronnie looks like when he's fully hitting the back double biceps