Author Topic: Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce  (Read 3551970 times)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5825 on: July 10, 2006, 09:05:29 AM »
This one is morphed-one arm in that pic is clearly much bigger than the other, and the other shots show the true size or lackthereof. His arm in reality was about 1/2 that size.

And the shape's still horrible.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5826 on: July 10, 2006, 09:15:15 AM »
This one is morphed-one arm in that pic is clearly much bigger than the other, and the other shots show the true size or lackthereof. His arm in reality was about 1/2 that size.

And the shape's still horrible.


Morphed? lol I'll own your ass if you want ? that picture is scanned and is NOT morphed in anyway , doubt me ? because I can provide proof . ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5827 on: July 10, 2006, 09:18:18 AM »
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Morphed? lol I'll own your ass if you want ? that picture is scanned and is NOT morphed in anyway , doubt me ? because I can provide proof

Since precisly *no* other contest color pics in this thread show him like that, and since one of his arms in the pic's clearly bigger than the other, post 4-5 OTHER color contest pics in a similar pose, showing his arm looking that way dumbass. ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5828 on: July 10, 2006, 09:27:41 AM »
Since precisly *no* other contest color pics in this thread show him like that, and since one of his arms in the pic's clearly bigger than the other, post 4-5 OTHER color contest pics in a similar pose, showing his arm looking that way dumbass. ::)

Answer me do you want me to post that picture as it sits in the magazine , making you look even more stupid than you already do?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5829 on: July 10, 2006, 12:18:24 PM »
Whether its morphed or not is irrelevent, as the fact remains that for every good shot of yates arms ND or anyone can dig up, you can find 10 poor shots of his arms.

Bottom line: his arms are poor by olympia, top tier pro standards and you cannot refute this. They are overwhelmed by his torso which accentuates their averageness.

Case in hand: lee haney.

Its well known lee had average/weak biceps by pro standard,yet whenever this is brought up at say ironage.us for example, the following and onlythe following pic is posted as a riposte.

This is what ND does for example, post the only few good pics he can find and attempts to pass it off as doctrine
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5830 on: July 10, 2006, 12:23:24 PM »
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Its well known lee had average/weak biceps by pro standard,yet whenever this is brought up at say ironage.us for example, the following and onlythe following pic is posted as a riposte.

Coincidentally ND's opinion always just happens to be Iron Age's opinion.
So much for individuality!

Still waiting for more pics that show Yates' arm anywhere near that size in contest shots...still waiting.... ::)

Here are genuine unaltered contest shots of those great arms..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5831 on: July 10, 2006, 12:24:55 PM »
I nominate this for the worst thread in the history of the internet.

I second that

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5832 on: July 10, 2006, 12:25:35 PM »

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5833 on: July 10, 2006, 12:38:33 PM »
LMFAO yeah this is balance .  ::)

You avoided the charge I was making, with a pic of Ronnie circa 96 or something for some reason? Way to adhere to the flawed arguing criteria you so criticise in others' posts.



I know they're  no record breakers but Ronnie's calves aren't dwarved in the same way Yates' 'quads' are dwarfed by his own calves!

P.S. Check the stomach, traps, hams, arms and pecs, Yates never had any of those as good as here! Well maybe traps but Ronnie's cannot be called 'small'! lol


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5834 on: July 10, 2006, 12:43:57 PM »
Coincidentally ND's opinion always just happens to be Iron Age's opinion.
So much for individuality!

Still waiting for more pics that show Yates' arm anywhere near that size in contest shots...still waiting.... ::)

Here are genuine unaltered contest shots of those great arms..


Nice backpeddle you claim I'm posting morphed pics and then when I call you on you crawl back into your hole with your tail between your legs  ;)

and how would you know what the Ironage opinion is? spending much time over there or are you one of the lot who was banned? lol and your opinion is real original , Kal , Robby , Padilla , Sergio and Fox were all victims of a Weider plot to hold them down lol never heard that before . ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5835 on: July 10, 2006, 12:45:11 PM »
ND once again disappearing on critical issues when it's put up or shut up: still waiting for any other contest shots of Yates with more than 17" arms that are anywhere near that one suspect shot. Here's one of Yates at 300 lb., with arms nowhere near that fake shot. hahahahahahhahaahah

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5836 on: July 10, 2006, 12:52:05 PM »
You avoided the charge I was making, with a pic of Ronnie circa 96 or something for some reason? Way to adhere to the flawed arguing criteria you so criticise in others' posts.



I know they're  no record breakers but Ronnie's calves aren't dwarved in the same way Yates' 'quads' are dwarfed by his own calves!

P.S. Check the stomach, traps, hams, arms and pecs, Yates never had any of those as good as here! Well maybe traps but Ronnie's cannot be called 'small'! lol



Ronnie's balance is NOT as good as Dorians fact and Hulkster tried that nonsense his calves are too big for his quads lol and it failed then , you've been staring to long at Ronnie twigs . and you have balls posting a sidetricep shot because Ronnie couldn't hold a candle to Yates in this shot .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5837 on: July 10, 2006, 12:54:15 PM »
ND once again disappearing on critical issues when it's put up or shut up: still waiting for any other contest shots of Yates with more than 17" arms that are anywhere near that one suspect shot. Here's one of Yates at 300 lb., with arms nowhere near that fake shot. hahahahahahhahaahah

You have no balls kid  ;) you're scared you'll get owned again lol do you honestly think he has 17" arms? and here look at this shot of Yates at the 1995 Mr Olympia does his arms look 17" jackass? consider your ass owned

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5838 on: July 10, 2006, 12:57:37 PM »
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you have balls posting a sidetricep shot because Ronnie couldn't hold a candle to Yates in this shot .

Let's get it straight, novice: Yates does *not* have more than average triceps size. Size-wize they're in balance with pathetic biceps.

He has cuts; ND will try to deceive some into thinking that means more than it does; Coleman blows him away on size and they both have cuts.

Unlike ND, the judges try to be objective. What that means is that size & cuts are crucial to the equation. ;D

MASSIVE SIZE DIFFERENTIAL.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5839 on: July 10, 2006, 01:04:18 PM »
Let's get it straight, novice: Yates does *not* have more than average triceps size. Size-wize they're in balance with pathetic biceps.

He has cuts; ND will try to deceive some into thinking that means more than it does; Coleman blows him away on size and cuts aren't far off either = better triceps.

Unlike ND, the judges try to be objective.  ;D

MASSIVE SIZE DIFFERENTIAL.

You're a backpeddler you have nothing to offer and Ronnie can't stand anywhere near Dorian in the sidetriceps shot . period .

Its not like the judges are looking for calves SOMETHING Ronnie is severly lacking in 6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.


Now answer these questions do you honestly think Dorian's arms measure 17" and how does Ronnie compensate size wise for his gut despite being 23lbs lighter? lol yeah I thought so . ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5840 on: July 10, 2006, 01:40:24 PM »
Ronnie's balance is NOT as good as Dorians fact and Hulkster tried that nonsense his calves are too big for his quads lol and it failed then , you've been staring to long at Ronnie twigs . and you have balls posting a sidetricep shot because Ronnie couldn't hold a candle to Yates in this shot .

Cheers, you have to admit though that the actual pic I posted DOES hold a candle to the flat chested, small-hammed Yates pics 8) Not bad for one of his worst poses!

P.S. The difference in their calf sizes from the side isn't particularly striking in these pics, and Yates' inferior hams are no more excusable than Coleman's calves. Quads + hams together are like four billion times more important than calves, lol. Just like Upper arms are more important than forarms. :-*

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5841 on: July 10, 2006, 01:49:01 PM »
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you have nothing to offer and Ronnie can't stand anywhere near Dorian in the sidetriceps shot . period .

I've posted many shots proving that Yates is owned, none of which he's actually refuted other than to launch more gibberish as a smokescreen. Deny, deny, deny is something he wants has to do instead.


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Quads + hams together are like four billion times more important than calves, lol. Just like Upper arms are more important than forarms

Iron Age turd-boy actually still tries to convince himself then us that this isn't true. Also believes the world is flat apparently.  ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5842 on: July 10, 2006, 01:50:59 PM »
Dozzer at his all-time best is better in the side triceps than Ronnie at his all-time best.

There are quite a few poses where Dozzer gets pwned by Ronnie, all-time vs all-time, the two double biceps poses, front and back.

And some where Dozzer beats Ronnie - front lat spread.

I think Diesel is a much better poser, which makes it harder to compare, but that is also a part of the game though I guess.

I prefer the 1998 Ronnie over Doz 1993, although I think Dozzer just looked more dominating, more.. I don't know.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5843 on: July 10, 2006, 02:10:10 PM »
Yes, I mean I can concede that Yates' all time best side tri beats Coleman's but Coleman has been known to 'hold a candle' to Yates in that one, as well as beat his ass most of the other poses, like you say front and back double bi, side chest, rear lat spread, most muscular, front lat pread close call....

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5844 on: July 10, 2006, 02:33:20 PM »
I have to stress once again that Dorian's arms were not even top six material.  Check the 1994 or 1996 Grand Prix England DVDs for evidence.

Or I can just post some pics and own anyone suggesting otherwise.  ;D

Of course theyre not. Theyre utter tripe. Poor shape, ugly in fact, little detail, and are underwhelmed by his torso. How in any ones mind can they therefore qualify as being good is beyond me.

What i find amusing is that ND's bible, flex magazine in their 20 greatest arms feature didnt include dorian (what a surprise).

The day someone on this board had the moxy to suggest they were better than ronnies arms is a day i never thought i'd see.

All the more dissapointing that it didnt come from some wide eyed, bbing newb but in fact from someone purportedly better informed and grounded in bbing history.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5845 on: July 10, 2006, 02:41:11 PM »
ND says Ronnie doesn't hold a candle to Dorian in the side tri  ::)




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5846 on: July 10, 2006, 03:31:29 PM »


dorian is owned by Ronnie in the double bi..and back double bi for that matter also :)

ND, WHY do you keep defending Dorian's ARMS??

Every pic you post has him by himself.

Every shot of yates comparing arms to anyone else shows how bad they look






and you keep insisting that in 1993 he had great arms, yet:


they still look bad.


The fact that Dorian's arms ONLY look good by himself and look bad next to others should really tell you something. But you are too biased to realize this.

Everyone else can.

Yates arms suck.  Yes, the overall arm complex. It sucks.



even in his famous 1993 B&W shots, his arms still suck.  Look at the pics.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5847 on: July 10, 2006, 03:41:45 PM »
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I prefer the 1998 Ronnie over Doz 1993,

Then you have the opinion that all sane people share.

Face it ND: Everyone can see what you cannot.



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5848 on: July 10, 2006, 03:55:59 PM »

dorian is owned by Ronnie in the double bi..and back double bi for that matter also :)

ND, WHY do you keep defending Dorian's ARMS??

Every pic you post has him by himself.

Every shot of yates comparing arms to anyone else shows how bad they look




and you keep insisting that in 1993 he had great arms, yet:


they still look bad.


The fact that Dorian's arms ONLY look good by himself and look bad next to others should really tell you something. But you are too biased to realize this.

Everyone else can.

Yates arms suck.  Yes, the overall arm complex. It sucks.


even in his famous 1993 B&W shots, his arms still suck.  Look at the pics.




1) I never insisted Yates had ' great ' arms I said they were in balance with the rest of his phsyique and sorry sport his triceps are better as are his forearms and his arms as a whole have better balance .

2) remember the judges look at more than just the biceps in the front & rear double biceps shot , but I said at their respective bests Ronnie could have both those shots and Dorian would beat him everywhere else .  ;)

Front Double Biceps (see Figure 1)
Standing face front to the judges, with the legs and feet
in-line and a short distance apart, the competitor will raise
both arms to shoulder level and bend them at the elbows.
The hands should be clenched and turned down so as to
cause a contraction of the biceps and forearm muscles,
which are the main muscle groups that are to be assessed
in this pose. In addition, the competitor should attempt
to contract as many other muscles as possible as the
judges will be surveying the whole physique, from head to
toe.


wow they look at the forearms & calves , but according to Hulkster those are minor muscles that don't count , yet they specifically mention them , obviously Ronnie has the much better biceps , but Dorian has the better balance and you ever notice in the front double bicep shot Ronnie's chest is completly FLAT and Dorian's isn't you can see Dorian's chest thickness without his chest disappearing , I'm sure thats another thing that doesn't matter  ::)


How do you win straight firsts in almost every single Mr Olympia for six years straight if yours entire ARMS suck? you don't . his arms don't suck you're an internt-fan a biased one at that , he won both the symmetry & musculairty rounds with all 5s against some of the best ever . so to say " his arms only look good alone and not compared to anyone " is directly contradicted by those FACTS and shows you don't know much.


And his arms sucked in the Black & Whites lol kid go away , you or no one else can deny his arms are HUGE even if you're not man enough to admit it .

230+ pages the bias lives on .  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #5849 on: July 10, 2006, 03:58:51 PM »
Then you have the opinion that all sane people share.

Face it ND: Everyone can see what you cannot.





Thanks for proving my point his arms compared very well to his fellow pros hence why straight 5s in all rounds .