Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[sculpture]

Do you mean a good back from behind but a poor one from the front?

Arnold had a great back from the front, lats sweeping all the way down to his waist but from behind despite etched upper back muscularity  i never found it that impressive.

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL!

Give it a few hundred more pages.

I preferred the way Dorian's lats looked from the front.  They looked fuller and thicker (and lower) in my opinion.  From the rear Ronnie's lats looked vastly superior.

You ever notice that it's possible to have a good back from the back (or from the front), but the opposite does not hold true?

I disagree .

[brianX]

Ronnie has better eyelids.

[sculpture]

I disagree .

After 250 pages ND, don't you think we know that?

[NeoSeminole]

I disagree.

Too bad you are wrong. Ronnie's back is thicker and just as wide as Dorian's in 93. Ronnie also doesn't have asymmetry problems like Dorian. Dorian's traps don't even line up and his Christmas tree looks like someone trimmed it on the right side.

[FREAKgeek]

which contest is this from? is this a virtual pic?

[natural al]

which contest is this from? is this a virtual pic?

isn't that the 96 Olympia?

[FREAKgeek]

I can see a seam in the center, it doesn't look like it's matched up evenly

[mesomorph]

Now I see it.. Ronnie's legs are just as soft

lmao

[LyricTenor]

I can see a seam in the center, it doesn't look like it's matched up evenly

you're joking right?  They are on stage together...

[the shadow]

I disagree .

ur absolutely right ND...yates back looks like a fuckin tank...

[NarcissisticDeity]

which contest is this from? is this a virtual pic?

Its from the 1996 Mr Olympia .

[pumpster]

What's interesting is that the pic confirms that Yates' arms and quads are 4" or more smaller than Coleman's, while he has thicker joints = far less taper all-round. Really flat & unimpressive re: BB standards.

[natural al]

even in that pic it's hard to make a good comparison, the angle of the camera and the fact that ronnie is leaning back makes it hard.  Dorian is harder and shows more detail but this is before ronnie got with "the chad" so it's not really an accurate portrayal of what ronnie would eventually become.  Dorian looks like he's hard as a rock in that shot, you can't tell a thing about his arms but his lower back is outstanding.

[pumpster]

even in that pic it's hard to make a good comparison, the angle of the camera and the fact that ronnie is leaning back makes it hard.

Because of the angle it's hard to compare lat width. However, it's abundantly clear that Coleman has a huge bi & tri size & shape advantage-about as big an advantage as i've ever seen.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Too bad you are wrong. Ronnie's back is thicker and just as wide as Dorian's in 93. Ronnie also doesn't have asymmetry problems like Dorian. Dorian's traps don't even line up and his Christmas tree looks like someone trimmed it on the right side.

I don't think I'm wrong and here is why . The two pics you posted are of Dorian from the 1993 Mr Olympia where he weighed 257lbs and Ronnie from the 1998 Mr Olympia where he weighed 249lbs , now I obviously have a problem with your ability to scale and let me explain why. the pic of Ronnie is taken by looking up at him making him appear wider and the picture of Dorian is almost straight on .

The pictures aren't scaled properly simply because if you look at both pics Ronnie's waist actually slightly bigger than Dorians . now you've complained I bitched about this before but obviously if it was scaled correctly Dorian's waist would be wider but so would everything else thus making it a more fair & objective. there is obviously no way in hell Dorian's waist at 257lbs is the same size or slightly smaller than Ronnie at 249lbs , Ronnie's waist & hips at the 1998 Mr Olympia were insanely tiny thats something never said of Dorian at 250lbs

To say Ronnie's back at 249lbs is wider than Dorians at 257lbs is just spectulation , if anything his back is comprable in terms of width and maybe slightly less than Yates , we're not talking Ronnie 2003 here . don't mistake Ronnie's better V-taper as having a wider back because a small waist & hips give the ilusion of so until they stood side by side it would be evident who had the wider back.

Now in terms of back thickness at roughly the same weight , I think its pretty obvious Dorian has the thicker back of the two Dorian's hallmark was his muscle density. Dorian's traps are thicker than Ronnie's without question , his lats are thicker as well especially his lowerlats and Dorian's erector spinae is thicker .

[NarcissisticDeity]

What's interesting is that the pic confirms that Yates' arms and quads are 4" or more smaller than Coleman's, while he has thicker joints = far less taper all-round. Really flat & unimpressive re: BB standards.

Actually Ronnie's quads don't look any bigger to say 4" bigger is wishfull thinking same with the arms , the only and I mean only advantage Ronnie has his that picture is biceps peak , Dorian is simply outclassing Ronnie in terms of hardness , dryness , density , thickness , width , even Yates hams are better and Dorian's entire back from top to bottom in that pic is just ouright superior .

[pumpster]

I don't think I'm wrong and here is why . The two pics you posted are of Dorian from the 1993 Mr Olympia where he weighed 257lbs and Ronnie from the 1998 Mr Olympia where he weighed 249lbs

Again, completely amateur analysis fixating on bodyweighs. How simplistic!

Bottom line: Coleman's lats are clearly WIDER, Coleman's waist is SMALLER = marked advantage in taper, one of the key criteria in BB.

Yes, Yates has an advantage over most BBs in density-whose back is better comes down to preference. It is the only major area in which Yates is comparable to Coleman.

[pumpster]

Actually Ronnie's quads don't look any bigger to say 4" bigger is wishfull thinking same with the arms , the only and I mean only advantage Ronnie has his that picture is biceps peak

Revisionist thinking doesn't erase the reality that most see a huge size disparaity, both bis and tris. That is why Coleman has arguably the best arms in BB history, certainly in the top 2 or 3, while Yates is in no one's top-30. That's the reality, something that can't be denied and exactly why there's a HUGE difference in size.

Same with quads-huge difference, not just a little.

[FREAKgeek]

Actually Ronnie's quads don't look any bigger to say 4" bigger is wishfull thinking same with the arms , the only and I mean only advantage Ronnie has his that picture is biceps peak , Dorian is simply outclassing Ronnie in terms of hardness , dryness , density , thickness , width , even Yates hams are better and Dorian's entire back from top to bottom in that pic is just ouright superior .

Dude, Ronnies quads/thighs are completely bigger. That's not even debatable.

[pumpster]

Dude, Ronnies quads/thighs are completely bigger. That's not even debatable.

That's part of what's so PATHETIC about ND's denials & child-like "arguments" that run completely contrary to common sense-he'll claim otherwise with no proof whatsover, thinking that just saying it means something! hahahahahahaahah

Hey ND let's see some proof of Yates' arms & quads anywhere near the same size.

Next up: ND will set us straight on why the earth is still flat, like Yates' muscles in general.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dude, Ronnies quads/thighs are completely bigger. That's not even debatable.

Not in that particular picture , its NOT Ronnie 99 Olympia we're talking about .

[NarcissisticDeity]

That's part of what's so PATHETIC about ND's denials & child-like "arguments" that run completely contrary to common sense-he'll claim otherwise with no proof whatsover, thinking that just saying it means something! hahahahahahaahah

Hey ND let's see some proof of Yates' arms & quads anywhere near the same size.

Next up: ND will set us straight on why the earth is still flat, like Yates' muscles in general.

This is comming from the person who when confronted on their BS claims and asked to provide proof he runs away lol keep running .

[sculpture]

Actually Ronnie's quads don't look any bigger to say 4" bigger is wishfull thinking same with the arms , the only and I mean only advantage Ronnie has his that picture is biceps peak , Dorian is simply outclassing Ronnie in terms of hardness , dryness , density , thickness , width , even Yates hams are better and Dorian's entire back from top to bottom in that pic is just ouright superior .
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I'd give ronnie delts and overall pleasing shape over breezeblock yates anyday

[pumpster]

This is comming from the person who when confronted on their BS claims and asked to provide proof he runs away lol keep running .

Still NO PROOF OF ANY CLAIMS about Yates from the windbag. I've provided plenty of proof including videos that he hasn't answered, reminders of getbig poll results that he ignores (Coleman >>> Yates) and the most accurate pictoral comparisons on the thread-evidence is of course ignored.